That is weird. I'd like to know what that oil was, so I can try it for myself.
Hi MajorTom
Wow! Thanks for the great links! Yes, now I remember she said it had Lavender oil in it. I will have to look at each one in depth, and try to make an educated decision.[:D]
Do you have any experience like the one I talked about above? I would really like to hear from everybody. Comments, opinions?
Thanks,
Thelou
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However, pretty sure she did a little bit more than just apply the oil [;)]
Do you mean your wife or the woman who did it to thelou?
LOL! I see. [:D]
Dang, I've Heard Of Putting This Oil On Your 3rd Eye And It's Supposed To Really Help You Project, This Is The First Case Outside Of A Website Selling That I've Seen Success.......
So what I wonder is...
providing this happened, what if someone had killed you while "out of body" it sounded kind of like "bi-location" to me, but I've never heard of interacting with physical objects....
Assuming this is possible.... are there dangerous applications? Such as trying to fly and killing yourself (or one of yourselves?) or.... killing someone else (on accident? on purpose? psychic assassins?)
Hm.
well it was an interesting story, definitely.
Thanks MajorTom and everyone else;
Yes now that I think of it, it might have been jasmine that she said. She explained that it was very expensive because of the large amount of plants required to get oil from it. IT was many years ago, and my memory is not as good now as it was then.[:D]
And no, she was not married.
Holy reality,
I do not believe that you can be killed when you are out of body. It is a nonphysical manifestation. It would be like shooting a ghost.
I remember an old episode of "kung foo" where one of the gurus that lived very far away came and visited. After he left David Caradines character Kane? Asked some question about the incredible distance that this very old and weak man traveled to visit. The answer was something along the lines of he has come and visited once or twice a year. Only one time in the old mans youth had he actually met the other old man in physical. That the mind does not need the body to travel and go and visit.
I have read (after it happened to me I started researching) that many of the old Oriental cultures believed that some people could travel great distances and appear to be physical and their body stayed back where ever they were.
If it had not happened to me I would have never believed it. And this is the first time I have ever spoken about it to anyone other than the two people who saw it.
About the milk glass. One book I read many years ago said it is all about the amount of energy that you project. Project enough energy, and you become more solid. It theorized that one could reach a high enough level to project so much energy that the physical body could travel to the astral and then wake up, verses the astral coming back to the physical. I find that fascinating, but still hard to believe.
I will research the oils from the links that MajorTom posted. If I decide to investigate it further and actually go through with it, should I post my results here?
Thanks,
Thelou
P.S. MajorTom, did you get the PM I sent you last week?
P.S.S. Hi Tescious, and welcome. Nice to have your input.
P.P.S.S. I also found a website that sells a drug like weed that they claim is legal and perfectly safe to smoke. They "guarantee" that you will have an OBE first time and every time you use. If anyone wants it let me know and I will post it. I do not think I am interested though.
Disclaimer. If you do I hold no liability, I am only posting the link.[:D]
Well, I know it is possible to affect things physical while in the "real time zone."
Like that one guy with the book... he pinched someone and left a bruise.
Maybe it just requires energy to be focused on somethign to move it?
He focused on pinching. This guy focused on getting a glass of milk.
I'd like to resuggest the penny experiment.
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Well, I know it is possible to affect things physical while in the "real time zone."
Like that one guy with the book... he pinched someone and left a bruise.
Maybe it just requires energy to be focused on somethign to move it?
He focused on pinching. This guy focused on getting a glass of milk.
I'd like to resuggest the penny experiment.
lol, this is starting to sound like the 1990 Film GHOST with Patrick Swayze and Demi Moore, where he was stuck on the earth plane until he found his killer. But he learnt to move physical objects like coins, coke cans etc... hehehe[:D]
MajorTom,
I resent you a PM please let me know if you got it or not.
Also how do you make those quotes with their words in between the lines? I tried cut and paste, and that does not work.[}:)]
Maybe it just requires energy to be focused on somethign to move it?
He focused on pinching. This guy focused on getting a glass of milk.
Yeah, I really wanted that glass of milk. Funny thing about the experience. I had no concept of dreaming, or being out of body. In my thinking I thought everything was real. Did have sort of a tunnel vision but figured that was do to the low light level.
What is the penny experiment?
Thelou
This brings me to another question. All of the experiences that I have read about people have a sense of being out of their bodies. They can usually see their body. They know they are AP'ing or having a "dream" of some kind.
I had none of that. It is like the second I got out I appeared on my front porch, and when I went back there was no feeling of going back. At the time there was no feeling of AP'ing or "dreaming" at the time I thought it was real.
Ok readers, any input on this whole thing?
Thanks
lou
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Also how do you make those quotes with their words in between the lines? I tried cut and paste, and that does not work.[}:)]
Click on the Forum Code link (to the left of the box that you type your reply in). In the box that pops up, there are explanations for each function. The explanation for using quotes can be found at the bottom.
Is there any half scientific logic behind how this stuff could help you project? Im constantly baffled by the amount of "evidence", scientific explanations, similarities/etc out there in regard to OBE and was just wondering if theres much to be said about this?
Cheers.
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Click on the Forum Code link (to the left of the box that you type your reply in). In the box that pops up, there are explanations for each function. The explanation for using quotes can be found at the bottom.
[:D][:D][:D][:D][:D]
does anyone know about using essential oils for astral travel,while using medication?
I'm on anti-anxiety (social) meds,and ever since I started using them,I haven't been able to project w/any reliability[:(]
the use of these essential oil mixtures could speed results-but the question is-would it create some bizarre negative reactionsd,due to the mixture of the oils and the meds?
hmmmm....
The penny expieriment is basically moving a penny.
You put a penny on a flat surface that it's not likely to move on, make sure nothing will move it (animals, wind, earthquakes, the works), and then project.
You concentrate your energy into your "hand" and try to move the penny. You can put cicles or cups down, and try to move it from one to the other, or you could flip it over or something.
I think you had, what I call, a bioenergetic diplanar lucid manifestation (or BDLM). In english, the oil caused your mind to project two copies of conscious energy, one extremely dense, the other naturally expanded (in terms of etheric concentration). The dense copy was physical enough to become a semi-tangable and lucid entity, meanwhile, the invisible real-time double was actually the back-bone supporting the physical manifestation.
Now, what probably happened was you fell asleep, had a wake-induced lucid dream (thats the kind that feels "real"), did the whole thingy at the house, and woke up. And because you had two subtle bodies lying around doing nothing, they naturally followed what your dream-mind was doing. Thus, creating the effect that you were actually there at the house.
This theory might be a little farfetched, and I am having hard time explaning it thoroughly (I'm tired and it's late), but I hope it helped.
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I think you had, what I call, a bioenergetic diplanar lucid manifestation (or BDLM). In english, the oil caused your mind to project two copies of conscious energy, one extremely dense, the other naturally expanded (in terms of etheric concentration). The dense copy was physical enough to become a semi-tangable and lucid entity, meanwhile, the invisible real-time double was actually the back-bone supporting the physical manifestation.
Wow, ok what is that? What does it mean, is there anyplace on the web that has more of this information?[:D][:D]
Thanks,
lou
I have a friend who was once seen by two people while out-of-body. It was during a time in his life when he was working very intensely on his psychic development (he was in his 20's, and over 50 now).
Real rose oil is horrendously expensive, it might have been an ingredient. So-called "white" witches (there really is no such thing, witches are just people) love to use rose oil in their potions.
But more likely than not, it was a combination the charisma of the witch herself, her relationship with the plant oils, and your trust in her that led to your experience. In all my years of study I've never encountered an annointing oil (except belladonna perhaps, and if it was, I want to know where she got it) that, by itself, would lead to an OBE.
Hi Tisha,
This post is kind of old, so thank you for taking the time to read it and make your post.
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But more likely than not, it was a combination the charisma of the witch herself, her relationship with the plant oils, and your trust in her that led to your experience. In all my years of study I've never encountered an annointing oil (except belladonna perhaps, and if it was, I want to know where she got it) that, by itself, would lead to an OBE.
I have been Divinely Guided my entire life. I have never had a problem putting trust in someone. I just know if I should or not. But yes I can see on a psychological level how that would affect the experience I had.
What is belladonna? And did I understand you correctly that it by itself would lead to and OBE? Could you clarify a little please?
Oh and by the way, I saw your site, your not THAT old. But you have a great sense of humor.
Thelou
beladonna=INTENSE
Beladona it´s a plant. I heard somewhere that smeeling it is dangerous. Anyways it is dangerous to make any thing with that plant because it is strong.
Beladona it is used to repel werewolfs (im not shure if i read that on something related with mythology or with the old game Dungeons and Dragons[:D]).
I have been thinking about this for several weeks. I am still afraid to post it because some will think I'm nuts, but here goes.
About ten years ago I lived in a one bedroom studio apartment. Having come from a small town to the "big city". My best friend also moved to town to go to school. He moved in with me to save $$. There were two couches in my living room. One of which was a fold out bed. That became his room.
His parents came down for several days because his dad had doctors appointments. They took the fold out bed, and he slept on the couch.
On the weekends I usually went out to the local bar in search of "companion ship". I met this lady who claimed to be a white witch. We had several drinks and went back to her house. We talked allot about metaphysics. We got to talking about astral projection and how much I wanted to experience it. She said she could walk me through one.
She had this little vial of oil that supposedly cost over $100 and that it helped produce OBE. She put a drop on my forehead and I laid down on the floor of her living room. She counted me down into a trance. I had a very vivid dream. In my dream I was standing at my front door. I unlocked the door and quietly went inside. I did not want to wake any of the people sleeping there. My stomach was kind of upset so I went into my kitchen and poured myself a glass of milk. I drank it and then filled the empty glass with water so that it would be easier to clean later. I was still trying to be quiet and did not want to wash it then. Then I went back outside, and locked my door again. I looked up at the stars and woke up back on the living room floor of this girls house. And I told her all about my dream.
She lived 20-30 minutes away from where I did. I was only unconscious for about 25 minutes. We checked the clock.
After that we started drinking heavy and talking. I slept on her couch and did not drive drunk.
The next morning when I came home my friend and his mom were awake and talking. They asked me why I came home and then left again. I was like what? They said that I came home, went into the kitchen and then left again, why did I do that?
I went into the kitchen, and right there in the sink was a glass full of water, that had obviously had milk in it.
I have recently talked with both of them, not at the same time. And they both said yes that they remembered that. They just figured I left her house, came home, and then drove back to her house.
Again she lived 20-30 minutes away, and I was only unconscious for about 20 minutes.
Has anyone read about an OBE where someone in physical saw them? And does anyone know what that little bottle of oil could have been? I would love to get more.[:D]
Thelou
Have been away from the forum for a long time, just wanted to say thanks everyone for the great interaction and information.
The lou