Proper flying

[blidge]

Hi all,

I've been projecting for many years now and have seemingly never ever mastered the art of flying. I had a' lucid dream ' few nights ago and my main goal was to fly.

I knew I was laying in bed physically and also that I could take this time to fly up to the sky,to the sun which was in the clear sky. I gently flapped my hands with the desire to float up and as always I was able to. Leaving the ground this way has  never been a problem but flying like super man! this is work in progress.

I climbed a structure with the desire to fly up like super man but I just couldn't move. Id stretch my arms out above my head looking up and tried to demand to fly, but to no avail.

My question is once in the awareness state what can I do to fly or even teleport to a  place. I have loads of intent but can only maybe come off the ground a few feet.
Thanks 

[EscapeVelocity]

In reviewing some of your older posts, you've been dealing with this inability to fly for quite awhile. To any other early projector, I would give the pretty standard answers of 1) learning to apply Intent properly or 2) dealing with doubt or fear issues. I suppose your problem could still be a variation of one of these, but it seems like you've been at this long enough to have figured out a solution by now. So maybe the issue lies elsewhere.

Some questions:

How many conscious OBEs have you had? Have they all occurred within the "RTZ" or have some of them transitioned into what were clearly not-Earth or Non-Physical environments? I know from your early posts that many of your early OBEs started in what can be referred to as the RTZ but that you lost consciousness as you attempted to move from room to room or out of the house. Were you eventually able to stay conscious as you made some of these transitions? If so, where did you find yourself?

Another line of thought to consider are the differences between your Physical mindset and your NP mindset; you've probably had enough experiences to be realizing this fact. Your NP mindset can have a completely different set of wants/desires/expectations and all your pre-planning can be lost in an instant. This is where the instinctual fear/doubt thing can trip you up despite all your Physical mindset rationale. Just for starters...

Your answers will give us a direction.

[Lumaza]

 Proper flying? I don't think there is such a thing, unless of course you are learning to become a Pilot!  

When I have flying experiences I never see my hands or even my body period. Well, that's not entirely true. I have had a couple of instances where I became Lucid in a Dream and saw myself flying ahead of me from a 3rd person point of view. I then took over and kept flying from a 1st person point of view.

Other times when I became aware I was flying it just seemed like I was point of consciousness just enjoying the sights. But these were spontaneous events whereas I was just becoming aware I was already flying. As EscapeVelocity says above though, a strong focused will and intent plus a belief that you can already fly goes a long way here. Even Superman had to practice a time or two before he finally got the hang on it! 

Once a long time ago I had a LD whereas I was in neighborhood where the kids there were showing off their Skateboarding talents. I asked them if they wanted to see something cool and I jumped up to the roof of the home across the street. That completely freaked the kids out and started a whole bunch of trouble for me. I even got chased by the police. That's when I learned it's better not to be conspicuous in some of these other realms. Oh well, another adventure, another lesson learned, lol.

[blidge]

In reviewing some of your older posts, you've been dealing with this inability to fly for quite awhile. To any other early projector, I would give the pretty standard answers of 1) learning to apply Intent properly or 2) dealing with doubt or fear issues. I suppose your problem could still be a variation of one of these, but it seems like you've been at this long enough to have figured out a solution by now. So maybe the issue lies elsewhere.

Some questions:

How many conscious OBEs have you had? Have they all occurred within the "RTZ" or have some of them transitioned into what were clearly not-Earth or Non-Physical environments? I know from your early posts that many of your early OBEs started in what can be referred to as the RTZ but that you lost consciousness as you attempted to move from room to room or out of the house. Were you eventually able to stay conscious as you made some of these transitions? If so, where did you find yourself?

Another line of thought to consider are the differences between your Physical mindset and your NP mindset; you've probably had enough experiences to be realizing this fact. Your NP mindset can have a completely different set of wants/desires/expectations and all your pre-planning can be lost in an instant. This is where the instinctual fear/doubt thing can trip you up despite all your Physical mindset rationale. Just for starters...

Your answers will give us a direction.

Hi escape thanks for the reply. Yeah I've been doing this since I was a teenager now in my 40s but I guess since my my mid 20s I've not really focused on it again until the last 7 years or so. Not focused on it day in day out but I've had experiences in the RTZ and other worldly places where I've been fully aware.
Yes this has been an issue for me for a while as it's one of my main desires. I have managed to fly or hover off the ground but not as I desire, I just need to know what else I can do that I've not tried to be consistent. 

Conscious OBEs I've had countless in the RTZ and elsewhere. I've generally found that I become aware of an Obe leaving my physical self in my room and attempt to leave this environment. When I've managed this in the past I usually lose awareness or end up somewhere else and then lose awareness eventually.

Thought wise the first thing I've programmed myself to think when I do become aware is A. C. E awareness clarity and energy NOW with real intent and repeat this so that environment is clear and I can take some control with commands.

I realise that nothing around me is real and is an interpretation of the physical world. I tell myself that everything is transparent so I can move at will through anything.

Any suggestions are much appreciated
😃

[blidge]

As EscapeVelocity says above though, a strong focused will and intent plus a belief that you can already fly goes a long way here. Even Superman had to practice a time or two before he finally got the hang on it! 

hi lumaza,
One thing I've not mentioned is that even though I've fuly belief and try to have the above I've had occasion when I've felt fear and apprehension with heights even though I have a flown and have full desire to do so again.

In my  case it's the progression when I start to fly to keep going higher and further into the sky and beyond. It's so frustrating 😤 as I know I'm not in the real world and I can't be hurt...
At some point in time I'll achieve my goal.

[Lumaza]

hi lumaza,
One thing I've not mentioned is that even though I've fuly belief and try to have the above I've had occasion when I've felt fear and apprehension with heights even though I have a flown and have full desire to do so again.

You know, I find that strange myself too. In this physical realm here I don't like heights either. But over in the other realms I enjoy them quite a bit. I'm sure it has everything to do with the physical rulesets that have been engrained in our minds here in this current physical realm of existence.

I think that the more consciously aware that we become over there, the more our analytical thinking brain kicks in and reminds us of our physical limits. That's why when we become aware in a LD that we are flying, we tend to lose control of the situation. To rectify that you need to spend more time over there period!

[EscapeVelocity]

blidge,
I'm not saying whether it's right or wrong but do you subscribe to the Chakra theory? Do you feel one or more of your Chakras energized during exit symptoms or during the OBE itself? If so, which ones? and has this changed over time?

[blidge]

blidge,
I'm not saying whether it's right or wrong but do you subscribe to the Chakra theory? Do you feel one or more of your Chakras energized during exit symptoms or during the OBE itself? If so, which ones? and has this changed over time?
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I believe that my chakras are heightened but am not consciously aware at the time. In the past I've felt my 3rd eye but not all the time. The thing I tend to be aware of is my astral self vibrating before exit. ]

[no_leaf_clover]

I used to have the same problem.  I had the intention of flying but just couldn't quite figure out "how" to do it.

I've had similar problems with other "impossible" feats in dreams: throwing heavy objects all the way to the horizon, melting snow just by looking at it, etc.

I finally learned to give my mind something to work with.  The first thing that worked for me was imagining a jet pack on my back, and a control on each side of my body.  If I pull my right arm, I accelerate with an arc to the right.  If I pull my left arm, I accelerate to the left.  If I pull them both at the same time, I just accelerate straight ahead.

You might have to think of a different trick that works for you, that's just an example.  I think the major underlying issue with us is that even though we consciously understand that everything is possible in these environments, our subconscious may not understand that.  That's why when I first tried to throw a heavy object to the horizon, it went only as far as it would in real life and then fell back to the ground.  I had to let my subconscious understand through mental imagery and feelings that there are no limitations here.  It's a hard thing to explain removing subconscious limitations but only takes a little determination and creativity, and once you get the hang of it, this becomes an incredibly powerful skill not only in dreams but also in waking life.

[Lumaza]

I finally learned to give my mind something to work with.  The first thing that worked for me was imagining a jet pack on my back, and a control on each side of my body.  If I pull my right arm, I accelerate with an arc to the right.  If I pull my left arm, I accelerate to the left.  If I pull them both at the same time, I just accelerate straight ahead.

You might have to think of a different trick that works for you, that's just an example.

Jet pack huh. That pretty innovative there no-leaf!  .

I have made it to space before by flying beside a rocket. That gave me the idea to try mirroring another vehicle, such as a plane. When I did that I found myself flying right beside it. All the work was done, so I just enjoyed the sights. It was as you say a way to "trick" myself and it worked.

[EscapeVelocity]

There are no clear-cut answers that I see at the moment. Lumaza and no_leaf_clover have given some good, plausible ideas to consider.

My Chakra idea involves the idea that your present state of OBE awareness relates to your level of Chakra activation and that is what is limiting your ability to fly. In this theory, the early Chakra activation leads to Etheric/RTZ projections which are very limited in their range, thus the idea that you lose consciousness as you attempt to move beyond your bedroom or house or whatever initial environment you find yourself in. Moving beyond these confines involves activation of your Emotional/Astral body and you should become aware of the resulting activation of higher Chakras such as the heart or third eye. This whole process of moving from one to the next can be a hit and miss affair, it doesn't necessarily work in a straightforward/linear fashion.

Being aware of vibrations just before exiting is more of an Etheric/RTZ experience, at least in my own experience. In this, your range (in physical terms of distance) is very restricted and I'm not sure it allows for the freedom of flying.

With that said, as a kid I could fly pretty regularly and I wasn't aware of a difference between energetic states, but it could have simply been my lumping the experiences all together at the time.

Maybe working on activating the higher Chakras along with an affirmation to FLY gets the message across to your Higher Self.

'Cuz flying is fun! Good luck!

[blidge]

I used to have the same problem.  I had the intention of flying but just couldn't quite figure out "how" to do it.

I've had similar problems with other "impossible" feats in dreams: throwing heavy objects all the way to the horizon, melting snow just by looking at it, etc.

I finally learned to give my mind something to work with.  The first thing that worked for me was imagining a jet pack on my back, and a control on each side of my body.  If I pull my right arm, I accelerate with an arc to the right.  If I pull my left arm, I accelerate to the left.  If I pull them both at the same time, I just accelerate straight ahead.

You might have to think of a different trick that works for you, that's just an example.  I think the major underlying issue with us is that even though we consciously understand that everything is possible in these environments, our subconscious may not understand that.  That's why when I first tried to throw a heavy object to the horizon, it went only as far as it would in real life and then fell back to the ground.  I had to let my subconscious understand through mental imagery and feelings that there are no limitations here.  It's a hard thing to explain removing subconscious limitations but only takes a little determination and creativity, and once you get the hang of it, this becomes an incredibly powerful skill not only in dreams but also in waking life.

Thanks for the above no leaf, what you say I can understand and get my head around. You would think that in this realm cause you know its not real, real as in RTZ or physical reality you would be able to do what ever you please, and im fully aware the advanced projectors out there can transport themselves to far away lands, deep space anywhere at will. Im struggling to leave my bedroom with awareness intact.
Think your right our consciousness may not understand that anything is possible and you have to give your sub consciousness time to understand and put into action the thoughts and imagery you want to happen. I don't think the sub consciousness can tell the difference between RTZ and the astral realm, cause as it is your actions are all thought before they take flight so to speak.
This gives me a good basis to try very specific things now in order to train my mind.

thanks

[blidge]

There are no clear-cut answers that I see at the moment. Lumaza and no_leaf_clover have given some good, plausible ideas to consider.

My Chakra idea involves the idea that your present state of OBE awareness relates to your level of Chakra activation and that is what is limiting your ability to fly. In this theory, the early Chakra activation leads to Etheric/RTZ projections which are very limited in their range, thus the idea that you lose consciousness as you attempt to move beyond your bedroom or house or whatever initial environment you find yourself in. Moving beyond these confines involves activation of your Emotional/Astral body and you should become aware of the resulting activation of higher Chakras such as the heart or third eye. This whole process of moving from one to the next can be a hit and miss affair, it doesn't necessarily work in a straightforward/linear fashion.

Being aware of vibrations just before exiting is more of an Etheric/RTZ experience, at least in my own experience. In this, your range (in physical terms of distance) is very restricted and I'm not sure it allows for the freedom of flying.

With that said, as a kid I could fly pretty regularly and I wasn't aware of a difference between energetic states, but it could have simply been my lumping the experiences all together at the time.

Maybe working on activating the higher Chakras along with an affirmation to FLY gets the message across to your Higher Self.

'Cuz flying is fun! Good luck!

Thanks Escape as this post also gives me a solution to this on-going desire to progress more in the astral. This involves my emotional body and should concentrate on activating my 3rd eye. Activating my chakras is something that I haven't done in a while and went through a time when I did. I meditate a lot so daily now I will train myself to open and close my chakras in turn from base to crown chakras. I also use affirmations before I sleep regular and will continue to do so.

With more energy activation im sure when im in my room having exited my physical form ill be able to not only leave my room with consciousness but fly also with energy activation done before hand.

I never thought of the astral in an etheric terms in my situation, but it makes sense and will focus my intent on my energy chakras.
Also when I was a teenager there was never a restriction to my room, id be out of my bedroom window flying down the street like I was powerful and that was just amazing, can t wait to do that again in the RTZ.

many thanks, will update my progression

[EscapeVelocity]

blidge, if you went beyond your room as a teenager, and flew...then this tells me something completely different...which is what I was waiting for you to get to...

You had vibes early on, no restriction to your room, you used to fly down the street, your third eye has some activation, your astral body seems to have some activity...

This all tells me something that wasn't apparent to me when I was at your stage, but is completely apparent to me now...(at least I think, Lol)

The reason you can't fly isn't because of anything you are doing or not doing...

Your Guides have restricted you from flying...

in order to point you in a new and different direction...they want you to start learning...

(you can work on it from here for awhile)  (check back if you have a necessary question, will be glad to offer ideas)

A terrible wonderfulness...or a wonderful terribleness!

EV

[blidge]

The reason you can't fly isn't because of anything you are doing or not doing...

Your Guides have restricted you from flying...

in order to point you in a new and different direction...they want you to start learning...

😃 ok start learning, what I wonder. In any case I'm activating my chakras daily now so when I do have a projection I'll remember it isn't all about flying. I'll ask my guide for assistance in showing me something I need to learn.

Many thanks

[Lumaza]

I'll ask my guide for assistance in showing me something I need to learn.

For years now I have used the same affirmation (ritual) each and every night and it hasn't disappointed me yet.

"By my act of will I release my focus over my physical body. PLEASE TAKE ME to your desired destination. SHOW ME what I need to SEE. TEACH ME what I need to LEARN." I visualize those capitalized letters fading into the abyss before my closed eyes.

This works great for me. Try to create your own "script" and use it faithfully. Affirmations are very powerful. I used affirmations years ago in my sales practice and actually many different times in my life in general. They have proved their worth over and over again.

[EscapeVelocity]

Lumaza makes a great point with his nightly affirmation and how powerful repeated, sincere statements or requests can be on many levels.

They are communications to our Angels, Guides, Higher Self, Inner Self, subconscious, superconscious...etcetera...however you wish to define these aspects both inner and outer.

Lumaza's affirmation hits all the high spots; I RELEASE (control), PLEASE TAKE me, SHOW me, TEACH me, what I NEED, to LEARN.

The only addition I might suggest is the idea of offering yourself up for SERVICE to others...just the offer to help when needed and able. I have read of that idea in several places and it kind of fits as a possibility when our NP activities suddenly stop for no obvious reason.

This issue, all by itself, is one for a common thread or even a sticky: What are the causes for NP experiences to change, become restricted or stop altogether?

As I gain experience, I realize more and more that it can be outside energies causing us to change direction or become involved in different ways.

So blidge, to refine and add to what I said earlier,...if your experiences become restricted, as in you can't do what you used to do...then it is an indication to find a new way or change your direction altogether. How you go about that is your personal journey; I am dealing with my own blockages for much of the past year...

Exit methods are often the big issue: People can exit twenty times and then suddenly they can't...they learn a new way to exit and after ten times that method no longer works...we begin to realize that we are being gently coerced (Lol) into learning yet another 'new' method.

The sudden restriction to your flying may be a signal that the fun and games are over and your Guides? want you to commit in some way before your learning and experiences can move forward. You were given some freedom to play and tour around, but now it's time to do some work, take on some learning and help with the responsibility of raising the frequency of our little part of the Multiverse. And we need a lot of that about now...

So, along with a nightly affirmation like that of Lumaza's, mine adds the commitment to be of service to the betterment of our world or to just be available wherever I might be needed.

[Lumaza]

The only addition I might suggest is the idea of offering yourself up for SERVICE to others...just the offer to help when needed and able. I have read of that idea in several places and it kind of fits as a possibility when our NP activities suddenly stop for no obvious reason.

I use that one too, but I didn't want to give him a paragraph of affirmations. My extras are to continue towards my goal of being an "invisible helper", to heal others in this realm and lastly to remember what I once knew and unleash my full potential.

This issue, all by itself, is one for a common thread or even a sticky: What are the causes for NP experiences to change, become restricted or stop altogether?

I agree there are a number of reasons why people become blocked. I became blocked for awhile when I began adopting views of others as being the sole truth. Once my consciousness/higher self, etc. figured I knew it all, there was nothing else to see. So, everything stopped. Then I got some weird malady that actually forced me to think anew. In the beginning I saw it as a curse. But now I see it's a blessing in disguise.

...and as you say, it is definitely worthy of a common thread or sticky here. But I feel that in the end our answers are going to be tailor made to fit our own personal circumstances. At least it would give another member here a list to look at it and decide which one "feels" like it's the right one to them personally.

It's the same as with Dreams/AP adventures, etc.. I hear too many times people asking what their Dreams or experiences means to us. For us to help them find an answer. It's their Dream or experience. It doesn't matter what it means to us. It only matters what it means to them. We can be helpful by giving our own opinions though.   

[blidge]

if your experiences become restricted, as in you can't do what you used to do...then it is an indication to find a new way or change your direction altogether

i think that if i ask the question while in that state this can help, something like why cant i fly or do the things that id like to do, i ask this of my guide to answer or give me an indication of an answer.

The sudden restriction to your flying may be a signal that the fun and games are over and your Guides? want you to commit in some way before your learning and experiences can move forward. You were given some freedom to play and tour around, but now it's time to do some work, take on some learning and help with the responsibility of raising the frequency of our little part of the Multiverse.

from a young age the fascination with flying means to me freedom and i greatly want to achieve this so i can feel the freedom of weightlessness and to sore like a bird. But there are other things that i need to learn as ive not really been able to explore the astrals possibilities as my focus is usually been focused on flight.

[blidge]

My extras are to continue towards my goal of being an "invisible helper", to heal others in this realm and lastly to remember what I once knew and unleash my full potential

i like the idea of being a helper but id like to be able to achieve astral visits on a regular basis first and then do just that. As i help others maybe ill be able to get closer to my goal and maybe find answers while having the thought of mind to help others.

thanks for the help lumaza and escape, even after all these years of astral travel some of the most basic things that can become a barrier still have to be over come again and again and there isn't always an obvious answer.

[Lumaza]

thanks for the help lumaza and escape, even after all these years of astral travel some of the most basic things that can become a barrier still have to be over come again and again and there isn't always an obvious answer.

Your Welcome! 

I don't think it's the case of an inability to find an answer. I think it's more like when you become comfortable using the same technique every time, that you get "challenged" to think anew. By thinking anew and trying anew, you tend to open new doorways. It all has to with continuing and showing the will to evolve.