Hello all
I was looking for tips and information about how or what you should do to protect yourself before your going to attempt to AP or an OBE ..i do pray before i attempt it but is there anything else i should be doing ? I have not had a OBE yet as i am in the early stages of learning about how to achieve it.
I appologize in advance if i posted this question in the wrong place.
Thank you for any help or information.
Dlee
I always just sent out a prayer to God(although I don't believe in the Christian God). Then after that I would imagine a white light coming down from the clouds and entering into my chakra's spreading through my body. From there I imagined it spreading out of me through my house eventually forming a giant field around my house.
Of course after a while I stopped doing all of that. I felt that as long as I conducted myself well(both physically and astrally) that nothing could truely harm me. I don't need to do any sort of protection because it's already there.
I don't know much about protection, but I just imagine a shield around me.
Whenever I am making an attempt to project and I find myseld getting a bit nervous or afraid for some reason or anohter, I just repeat a calming afirmation in my mind, and think of growing calmer again.
DLee:
I'm right there too.
I'm in the beginning stages, like you. I've spoken with a lot of people who have become experienced in astral projection and the growing majority tells me that they rarely use much protection other than a prayer here and there. Don't get me wrong...I pray as well, but when I think "protection" I think about going the whole ten yards. (Such as a circle of protection, buring incense, chants, etc)
I guess that's because I've heard of so many experiences turn bad- such as spirits that follow you and evil succubus' that gnaw out your eyes. (Sarcasm) It goes back to the old saying, "I'd rather be safe than sorry." Like I said above, I've spoken with a lot of people and they all tell me that not much harm can come from it and the "stories aren't always true." Should I believe that? I'm not sure.
I haven't had any out of body experiences yet- at least none that I can vividly remember. Well, I lie: I had one experience that I believe was part or a form of astral projection. I was fully aware that my body was sleeping and I was fighting to wake up- fighting...but I wouldn't wake up. It's not like I was above my body or looking at my body but I was in my body, my mind was intact inside. It was as if I was trapped inside not able to move, pushing to get out. with that said, i guess it wasn't an o.b.e.- more like an i.b.e. (inner body experience) haha.
Every time I plan on laying down to relax and focus on projecting, I get spooked. I feel like there's something inside of me that's telling me not to do it- and it's not just my conscience. Do you know what I mean? It's not reluctancy- it's something inside of me that knows what will happen and can happen. A sign maybe?
Tell me if you have any "luck" with the projecting. Give me updates if anything helps!
Allow me to interject a few observations. I have had many years of experience with concious exits, and find that there are more important things than protection when you project. The most important protection is how you live your life daily.
The chances of you meeting roaming negs or other wildlife is actually very remote. Robert Bruce uses the analogy that it is probably the same chance you have of meeting a shark if you go for a swim.
The way you live your life however, may attract negs as blood in the water, because of the very interesting law of attraction, (like attracts like)
Besides that, if you are filling your minds eye with gore and your imaginations with demons and such, as do many gamers and heavy metal fans, your mind may start acting out its own reality, and you will be battling "demons" for a while to come :-D
To the pure all things are pure, and living a peaceful balanced life, without too many polutants, be they spiritual or physical, is your best protection.
Regards Mustardseed
you act like these entities can't get you while not in astral...what do you think head aches are?
One time I was dream I walked into a astral monkeys rooms and he attacked me.
Quote from: 369 on February 17, 2008, 15:40:07
you act like these entities can't get you while not in astral...what do you think head aches are?
One time I was dream I walked into a astral monkeys rooms and he attacked me.
I am not sure what you are asking........headaches are for the most part Physiology and as far as monkeys attacking you ....most likely your own fears materialising as a monkey.
Actually when I say astral monkey I'm referring to what jub jub called something I described.
Quote from: jub jub on January 23, 2008, 12:32:45
It's those darn astral monkeys. Always sitting on your chest sucking the life blood out you. Someone needs to put them back in their cages so it's safe to AP!
Any volunteers? :-D
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_astral_experiences/are_you_one_of_us-t27306.0.html
It didn't "attack" me like physical attacking, it actually jumped on me paralysised me and started to suck my energy. I woke up and I felt my energy being sucked out.
Quote from: kylehasblueyes on February 17, 2008, 09:58:52
DLee:
I'm right there too.
I'm in the beginning stages, like you. I've spoken with a lot of people who have become experienced in astral projection and the growing majority tells me that they rarely use much protection other than a prayer here and there. Don't get me wrong...I pray as well, but when I think "protection" I think about going the whole ten yards. (Such as a circle of protection, buring incense, chants, etc)
I guess that's because I've heard of so many experiences turn bad- such as spirits that follow you and evil succubus' that gnaw out your eyes. (Sarcasm) It goes back to the old saying, "I'd rather be safe than sorry." Like I said above, I've spoken with a lot of people and they all tell me that not much harm can come from it and the "stories aren't always true." Should I believe that? I'm not sure.
I haven't had any out of body experiences yet- at least none that I can vividly remember. Well, I lie: I had one experience that I believe was part or a form of astral projection. I was fully aware that my body was sleeping and I was fighting to wake up- fighting...but I wouldn't wake up. It's not like I was above my body or looking at my body but I was in my body, my mind was intact inside. It was as if I was trapped inside not able to move, pushing to get out. with that said, i guess it wasn't an o.b.e.- more like an i.b.e. (inner body experience) haha.
Every time I plan on laying down to relax and focus on projecting, I get spooked. I feel like there's something inside of me that's telling me not to do it- and it's not just my conscience. Do you know what I mean? It's not reluctancy- it's something inside of me that knows what will happen and can happen. A sign maybe?
Tell me if you have any "luck" with the projecting. Give me updates if anything helps!
For sure thats a good idea ..i will keep you posted and let you know as soon as i have my first projecting ..i am looking forward to it :)..and good luck to you too.
i would repeat (a lot):
i am surrounding by love and light
or
will yourself to have a pleasant obe
or
say i have complete clarity and confidence now and this will be a pleasant obe
-repeat these a lot
have fun
che