Pulling someone out of thier body help oobe....

[jilola]

I'd be very and extremely reluctant to pay anyone to "pull me from my body".
And to recommend someone for you to trust would be way arrogant in my opinion.
You and only you can make the decision to trust.
You and only you can make the desicion to go OB someone else may be there to receive you aand encourage you but I would not pay anyone I didnät know before.

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jouni

[alpha]

I agree with jilola.

And I remember your post.You already have gone 3/4 of the way.It will happen again eventually.Be patient.It is up to you though.

Im not even sure if that its possible to be pulled out.

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[Tom]

I think it was Robert Bruce who wrote that if someone is almost out of their body a trusted friend can help with the last step. He also wrote that most of the time it will feel like a psychic attack if someone tries to help accomplish the separation, especially before it is close to happening.

[Pearlybear]

Thank you to all who replied.
I think I will just keep trying on my own, guess I didn't really think that one through.
I'm just afraid the excitement/anticapation will build to be to big to handle.
It is already causing me many troubles.

[jilola]

The more I observe my own attempts and the more I read about other people's troubles in achieving the OBE the more I'm beginning to believe in the zen-like approach.
You can actively get to a certain point. At that point you either get out or wimp out. (Sorry to put it so bluntly , no offense to anyone)
When you wimp out it's because you believe you believe that a)it's no tpossible b) you cannot do it because of any number of reasons or c) you deny the event because you feel X needs to happen before.

I got a grfeat big bulb going off tooday (unrelated to OBE in any way). I thought about nme, my life and the things that happen in it.
Here's what I came up with.

Things(A) happen to me(B). I happen (affect) the things around me. This forms a circle A->B->A->B.... Now, what I want is to become somehow apart from the circle and become the centre, the governing point. But since I'm part of the circle I can't be the centre - can't be two things at the same time.
So the way to achieving a goal is not to consciously reach for it or to consciously not reach for it but just to set it as a goal and let go.

?! I realize that the above may not mean **** to anyone else but I'll crash and burn believing it.

Oh and just to pleae Distant Bell (heeh hee) the thelemoc motto "Do what you will shall the be all of the law" is pretty much what we need to "get". We are amazing beings and aanything we can set as a goal is possible provided it is what we, in our innermost selves, are.

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jouni

[Pearlybear]

I have heard about these workshops where you try to have an oobe and the experienced person actually goes in you and helps pull you out....has anyone ever done this? Is it really possible?
If so, do you recomend anyone that can truly be trusted?
I really want to make sure before I do this because it is very expensive.
Thanks in advance:-)