Questions about god and astral projection

[zorgblar]

I have two questions:
1.What do you think god thinks about astral projection?
2.Is it possible to reach god with astral projection?

[markulous]

Well that's kind of something only you can answer yourself.  Your assuming that there is a God based on the Christian view of things, I.E. He is a single entity.

All I can say is that I believe in "God" but not so much as an omnipotant being but as everything as a collective spirit.

And if there is a God as you describe I'm sure He'd be fine with Astral Projection considering he gave us the ability to do it and the fact that a lot of people do it without even realizing it.

[Old Dood]

I never want to 'think' for 'God'.
There are enough people running around trying to tell us what 'God Thinks'.

[iNNERvOYAGER]

IMHO,  God doesn't think. God just is.

God created the conditions and situation for us to perceive astral projection.

[Stookie]

zorgblar -

If it was possible to know what God thinks, what would be the reason for... anything. Not understanding what or who God is or if God exists makes life as adventurous as it is. I think that a major part of physical life is not knowing. Or "wonder". It's what gives us our artistic side and a need to invent and create. Life would be stale without it.

I suppose the fact that you're questioning it is a good thing. Question everything.

[andrergsanchez]

I have two questions:
1.What do you think god thinks about astral projection?

If he made it, I would imagine he approves of it.

2.Is it possible to reach god with astral projection?

You can't get any closer to God than you already are. You can only learn to acknowledge his presence or not.

[Aquarious]

zorgblar -

Question everything.

define 'everything.' 

[Aquarious]

You can't get any closer to God than you already are. You can only learn to acknowledge his presence or not.

What if someone thinks they're acknowledging his presence but they were dellusional?

[nickspry]

Depends what you mean by "delusional".

[Tayesin]

'God', doesn't care what we do.

If we perceive what we call god as everything within our universe, the energy and awareness of it all, then I am sure it does not really make a point of looking to see what it's tiniest parts are doing.

That would be like me using a microscope to see what a cell on my left forearm is doing. Surely I would not care what it was doing, nor would I desire to inflict rules upon it, nor judge it accordingly, nor tell it to worship me or else, nor punish it... naughty, naughty bad cell, it's off to hell for you!

Since 'god' is everything, then it is also being You, and me, and those two sitting in the corner, that alien critter next to your bedroom door, etc. lol

Since God is being you already, there is no need to attempt to astral travel TO it. You are it, as is the trees and grass, the dirty footpath you walk on, the bum in the gutter.... everything.

It is the beliefs we were indoctrinated into that have closed our eyes to the truth around us, and that has separated us (perceptionally) from God. So, drop the edifying, constricting beliefs and just experience what is already within you and all around you in every moment. I think you will "find god" then.

[Dr.Acula]

1.What do you think god thinks about astral projection?

To be honest, even though i practice it, but it still doesn't feels right to me. if it is OK to visit the astral plane then why is it hidden from our eyes in the first place? and why is it strongly linked with witchcraft? and why so far there isn't one single working technique to project?-it's pretty much always left to 'chance', who controls these 'chances' ?
I'm not sure but I'm slowly starting to believe that god doesn't approve it. 

2.Is it possible to reach god with astral projection?

You can 'reach' god in so many ways, but if you mean 'meeting' him then I'd say that's not likely to happen. unless he wishes so.

[Steel Hawk]

To be honest, even though i practice it, but it still doesn't feels right to me. if it is OK to visit the astral plane then why is it hidden from our eyes in the first place? and why is it strongly linked with witchcraft? and why so far there isn't one single working technique to project?-it's pretty much always left to 'chance', who controls these 'chances' ?
I'm not sure but I'm slowly starting to believe that god doesn't approve it. 

If it doesn't feel right to you then don't do it, always follow your inner voice. Practicing OBEs is indeed cheating the game, sometimes it means you've advanced enough that this game bores you and you wish to move on.

I've come to the conclusion that humans are not designed to OBE (except at death). In fact I'd say everything was done to try and prevent this. But it's sometimes hard to prevent us from doing what is in our true nature, and it is in our true nature to have OBEs.

Sound confusing? Then realize we are not naturally humans, but we are spirits on a human journey.

[sstonevenuss]

IT IS THE HUMAN EXPERIENCE TO BE GOD AND STILL WONDER IF GOD EXHISTS.  A.

A LOT OF US ARE REMEMBERING!

[ka0s]

Hmm my opinion on this is from a christian standpoint and also from my opinion putting my religion to the side.

When my experiences first started happening at the age 16 I did not try to tie the two together. At first i was extremely scared and wondered why I could only travel as far as my memory had served me. They stopped for a few years and then slowly they have been creeping back in to my life. The first dozen or so I had at the age 16 were more vivid than any of the ones I have now, even though many of the ones I have now represent great clarity. I felt as if I had unlocked some doorway full-throttle and then I regressed to nothing. Slowly I am working my way back to that door that I had opened and I am still making current goals in all of my "experiences".

In the past 6-7 months I have been seeking my own answers in terms of tieing my OBE's to beliefs. Not only do I feel they have made me closer to God (or my belief in god), but they have also made me aware of more things in my physical state. I have done a few things to confirm that they are of God. I have prayed and asked if they are not of him for them to stop happening to me. I have also worn a cross (metal) and my experiences still occur...with interesting results. At this point in my journey I feel as if I will only continue to grow and that in the end I hope that my experiences are used in a way God sees fit to help others and not for my own desires.

I am not gifted and I dont feel that way. It just seems that these happen very naturally for me and I am at the point where I can induce them and I have a technique that works for me. This is all for now as i am sleepy.....

[sstonevenuss]

 Not only do I feel they have made me closer to God (or my belief in god), but they have also made me aware of more things in my physical state.


yes, your "awareness" develops and becomes more prevelant in your consious every day being. The development of my "sixth sense" so to speak has been my greatest guide and compass. I actually think of it as my "first sense" as i live from that place of knowing, trusting, proving over and over it is there to protect and help me. and "we" together grow exponentially. it is first nature for me now to make every moment from this place of knowing/belonging, WHOLENESS

[awaken]

I initially began learning astral projection as a means to reach god and over the years I've come to realize that I wasnt ready for god. I posted this question to a being I met once during an OOBE and it replied that I would meet my goal in 9/10ths time. I took that to mean when I was ready, or had the ability to be ready. Also my concept of god has changed dramatically since then, besides, there is so much other interested stuff to keep my occupied.

[michael156]

To be honest, even though i practice it, but it still doesn't feels right to me. if it is OK to visit the astral plane then why is it hidden from our eyes in the first place? and why is it strongly linked with witchcraft? and why so far there isn't one single working technique to project?-it's pretty much always left to 'chance', who controls these 'chances' ?
I'm not sure but I'm slowly starting to believe that god doesn't approve it. 

Personally, I believe that if practicing OBEs is possible, then there is a reason why this is so and that God would have been capable of stopping us from having OBEs if they weren't in some way necessary to the learnings of the people who experience them. I have had several dreams now where I have foreseen events from the future in a somewhat abstract form, and since I believe that the future is not yet written and therefore cannot be seen I feel that in my dreams I may be reviewing my life and planning out future life scenarios in order to help my spiritual progression without actually realising it. This may be the point of OBEs, a way of planning out our lives so we can maximise our spiritual progression. It makes sense to me that such things would be done in the astral realms, as before we were born did we not choose there what lives we should have and what parents we should be born to in order to make our experience on Earth most worthwhile to our spiritual education? If we make return trips to the astral during our lives couldn't we also be making choices that could assist us in progression? I see purpose in everything that occurs and exists and I don't understand why OBEs would be exempt from having some kind of purpose. As far as I view everything there are no 'accidents', everything is here for a reason, including OBEs.

As for the astral realm being hidden from us before we become increasingly aware of it, this is no different than any learned ability. The astral realm is hidden from us in the same way as the ability to sit at a piano and play "Flight of the Bumble Bee" the first time we touched the instrument. The reason why we have to learn and develop our skills in order to do anything that requires skill is the same reason why we go on this great journey of enlightenment instead of being in heaven the whole time and never experiencing anything else; it is because there would be no discovery in doing that and therefore it wouldn't be rewarding. There would be no point in having enlightenment from the beginning as if we did it would mean nothing.

Whether or not the astral plane is strongly linked with witchcraft depends on whether you wish to use it for witchcraft purposes. I honestly don't see why witchcraft has to be a bad thing either, what if you use it to help someone? It is not the astral plane or witchcraft that is evil or ungodly, it is evil intent from projectors and witches that makes it so. If you wish to use these things for good then I don't see why good wouldn't come out of it.

And as for the chances, maybe there are only certain times that are right or safe for projection, God could prevent an OBE from occurring if it is the wrong time, and since we don't know the right times we can only stumble upon them by chance. Drugs like LSD are more forceful in causing OBEs whatever time it may be, but people have reported bad experiences in the astral after using this drug. If an OBE attempt fails naturally it could be to prevent a bad experience like this from happening.

Well, that's what I think anyway, hope it was somewhat insightful.