Questions before Ascension

[BlackAndWhite]

Hello there,

I have just recently found out about Astral Projecting and was quite surprised how not many people had known about it. Now I've tried doing it for the past 2 days but had no luck using Bedeekin's method, but I guess it needs total concentration, something which needs practice. I was wondering about a few questions though that bedazzled me before I enter.

1. I have read from stories on this site and others that there are evil spirits/demons or whatever it's called and can attack you. How does one attack this spirit, or demon or whatever it is ? I don't want to enter my projection for the first time and see something sucking my/friend's/relative's chakra or energy and not know what to do.

2. Can you die and never come back ? I read that someone got shot, but was still alive in his physical body however weird that is...I'm assuming it's not a biggie as most sites say it's not really that important, unless you're like Kurt and meets up with "greys" etc..something which I don't really wana mess with until I know what's going on in the planes

3. Trust. Who am I to trust ? How do I know who to trust or do I trust no one ? Or do you just feel the presence of these beings and that's when you know instinctively and just go with the flow.

Thanks

[Xanth]

Welcome to the Astral Pulse BlackAndWhite.

Hello there,

I have just recently found out about Astral Projecting and was quite surprised how not many people had known about it. Now I've tried doing it for the past 2 days but had no luck using Bedeekin's method, but I guess it needs total concentration, something which needs practice. I was wondering about a few questions though that bedazzled me before I enter.

His method is about "pre-naps".
Basically, you take a pre-nap for 1 - 2 hours before you actually go to bed, then you get up for 30 - 60 minutes and do whatever you want... THEN go to bed normally.  This should wake you up in the middle of the night in Sleep Paralysis... from which you can then go OBE from.

1. I have read from stories on this site and others that there are evil spirits/demons or whatever it's called and can attack you. How does one attack this spirit, or demon or whatever it is ? I don't want to enter my projection for the first time and see something sucking my/friend's/relative's chakra or energy and not know what to do.

Demons only exist in the minds of those who believe in them.  Don't believe in them and you won't see any.  There's no need to "attack" that which doesn't exist. 

2. Can you die and never come back ? I read that someone got shot, but was still alive in his physical body however weird that is...I'm assuming it's not a biggie as most sites say it's not really that important, unless you're like Kurt and meets up with "greys" etc..something which I don't really wana mess with until I know what's going on in the planes

You can not be harmed while projecting.

3. Trust. Who am I to trust ? How do I know who to trust or do I trust no one ? Or do you just feel the presence of these beings and that's when you know instinctively and just go with the flow.

If you get far enough to where you'll be able to meet other people... you'll just know. 
However, If you ever feel uncomfortable with whomever you're meeting just go somewhere else.  Simple really. 

[BlackAndWhite]

Thanks for having the time to reply back Xanth, I've read quite a lot of the posts here and I think you're an excellent poster.

Welcome to the Astral Pulse BlackAndWhite.His method is about "pre-naps".
Basically, you take a pre-nap for 1 - 2 hours before you actually go to bed, then you get up for 30 - 60 minutes and do whatever you want... THEN go to bed normally.  This should wake you up in the middle of the night in Sleep Paralysis... from which you can then go OBE from.

Oh really ? Hmm, I guess I wasn't doing those pre-naps then. So I "pre-nap" for 1 -2 hours, get up, stay up for 30 - 60 minutes then start his method ? Or do I just go to sleep and I will wake up automatically in which I will then start to AP, from OBE.

Demons only exist in the minds of those who believe in them.  Don't believe in them and you won't see any.  There's no need to "attack" that which doesn't exist. 

Oh okay, then what is Kurt doing when he is in the AP to meet all those "Aliens" and such ? What about those people who saw evil spirits next to their physical body ? Is it their imagination ?

You can not be harmed while projecting.

That's good to know.

If you get far enough to where you'll be able to meet other people... you'll just know. 
However, If you ever feel uncomfortable with whomever you're meeting just go somewhere else.  Simple really. 

Awesome.

Me and my friend wana AP together, he's in another continent, as am I. I understand it's possible. Do I just imagine his name and I will pop up in his room or...do we schedule a meeting somewhere in our imagination ? Have you AP'd with a friend ?

[Xanth]

Thanks for having the time to reply back Xanth, I've read quite a lot of the posts here and I think you're an excellent poster.

Thank you for the kind words. 

Oh really ? Hmm, I guess I wasn't doing those pre-naps then. So I "pre-nap" for 1 -2 hours, get up, stay up for 30 - 60 minutes then start his method ? Or do I just go to sleep and I will wake up automatically in which I will then start to AP, from OBE.

There's no real "method".  You just do the pre-nap, get up for a bit, then go to sleep as normal.  This should provide the proper scenario for you to eventually wake up in the middle of the night in sleep paralysis.

Oh okay, then what is Kurt doing when he is in the AP to meet all those "Aliens" and such ? Is it his imagination ? I guess it's complex.

In MY personal opinion, yes... you have to understand that what we experience on the astral is a *DIRECT* result of our beliefs + expectations.
Try to keep those two things under control.

Me and my friend wana AP together, he's in another continent, as am I. I understand it's possible. Do I just imagine his name and I will pop up in his room or...do we schedule a meeting somewhere in our imagination ? Have you AP'd with a friend ?

I actually don't know. 
In this case, your guess is as good as mine.
You should try experimenting with different things... starting with the one you just suggested. 

[BlackAndWhite]

Oh, sounds great so far.

I'm just confused at the one part, I'm not really sure what you mean by Sleep paralysis. Will I certainly wake up in the night after doing the "pre-nap" ?

[Xanth]

Oh, sounds great so far.

I'm just confused at the one part, I'm not really sure what you mean by Sleep paralysis. Will I certainly wake up in the night after doing the "pre-nap" ?

That's the idea, yeah.
However, it may or may not work.

If you do wake up and find that you can't physically move... just try not to freak out. 

[BlackAndWhite]

Can I put an alarm-clock for the sleep paralysis ?

What method do you use personally ?

[Naykid]

Oh, sounds great so far.

I'm just confused at the one part, I'm not really sure what you mean by Sleep paralysis. Will I certainly wake up in the night after doing the "pre-nap" ?

Sleep paralysis, SP, is a feeling of being conscious but unable to move. It occurs when a person passes between stages of wakefulness and sleep.  And during these transitions, you may be unable to move or speak for a few seconds up to a few minutes. Some people may also feel pressure or a sense of choking. I believe that many people who think they have been abducted are actually experiencing SP.

[Xanth]

Can I put an alarm-clock for the sleep paralysis ?

Not really, no.  If you follow Bedeekin's Method, you'll just kind of wake up in it.

What method do you use personally ?

To project?  I use Phasing.
http://www.astralpulse.com/frankkepple.html

And Nay's explanation of Sleep Paralysis is great.  Give it a read. 

[BlackAndWhite]

Interesting. Quite a long read with phasing. Do you need to feel sleepy for it to happen ?

[Xanth]

Interesting. Quite a long read with phasing. Do you need to feel sleepy for it to happen ?

Not at all.
The keys to projection are relaxation and disassociation from the physical.

In other words relax your body, then completely forget you have a body and let your mind wander, but focused. 

[BlackAndWhite]

I'm reading it right now.

Is there any explanation why people don't know about Astral Projection ?

[Xanth]

I'm reading it right now.

Is there any explanation why people don't know about Astral Projection ?

Because it would absolutely shatter everything humanity thinks they know about this world.

[BlackAndWhite]

I read most of the phasing manual. I was surprised at how short the "How can I phase" part was. I thought it would be more complex, like meditation. Do you want add anything to it Xanth ?
Oh, and reading about how phase 2 is the sketchy phase, do we just concentrate more to get to phase 3 ? Moving up to the other phases was the only confusing part.

[Xanth]

Add to it?  Nah, it's quite sufficient. 
That'll take you nicely to FOCUS 2 oC.
To get to Focus 3 oC you need to stop providing the fuel to the world around you... but, for now, just work on consciously getting to focus 2. 

[BlackAndWhite]

Regarding that, a friend of mine who just knew about Astral projection yesterday got fascinated by it and we just randomly tried doing different techniques last night on how to reach it. Now, he's a lucid dreamer. I've barely been in one. He's just starting to have some control on what he can do in his dreams but the one he had yesterday after knowing about AP was a nightmare. He was in a store, or bank, most likely a store and was buying something he couldn't remember. His card got rejected and as soon as that happened, he felt a 300 pound security guard right behind him. He held my friend and asked him where he got the card from. My friend had told the security guard that it was his and that it wasn't stolen, but the security guard just grabbed him really hard and my friend had woken up at that point with hyperventilation. And he wasn't completely going on to F3 too.

[BlackAndWhite]

Xanth, I just tried it last night. Had a pre-nap for more or less an hour, stayed awake for an hour and then tried going back to sleep. It was hard going back to sleep though, next thing I realized, I woke up at 5, checked if I felt somewhat paralyzed but nope.

Is Bedeekin's method having a "pre-nap", waking up, then going back to sleep for "sleep paralysis" or is it just having a "pre-nap", waking up, and then trying to get an OBE ?

[Xanth]

Xanth, I just tried it last night. Had a pre-nap for more or less an hour, stayed awake for an hour and then tried going back to sleep. It was hard going back to sleep though, next thing I realized, I woke up at 5, checked if I felt somewhat paralyzed but nope.

Is Bedeekin's method having a "pre-nap", waking up, then going back to sleep for "sleep paralysis" or is it just having a "pre-nap", waking up, and then trying to get an OBE ?

Here's the method.

1. Pre-nap (he suggests 2 hours)
2. Get up after the pre-nap and just go do stuff for 30 - 60 minutes
3. Go back to bed and fall asleep for a regular nights rest as you would do any other time
4. If the triggers happen, you should wake up consciously in the middle of the night sometime... and not be able to move (or find it very hard to move).

Your not necessarily aiming to have an OBE, you're just going to sleep and letting happen whatever happens. 

[BlackAndWhite]

Cheers Xanth