Astral Debauchery

[PerversionOfEvil]

Well, me being me, I have come up with another conspiracy theory sort of thing regarding astral projection.
The basics of the theory are simply that each person who claims to astral project is in fact the victim of an advanced mind control experiment.  They have advanced to the point, or, perhaps rather, they demonstrate certain capacities which are relevant to the general purpose of The Organization.

They have been outfitted with a special technology, all these people who astral travel.  This technology will assume control over their dominating consciousness when they themselves access the lower brain cycles.  It will power impulses that manifest a reality so sublime and clear that it is only distinguishable from ordinary material world events by the requisite that you are flying. 

And so, in truth, the whole world is surveyed from both the inside and the outer spacial regions by satellites and all forms of gravitational and magnetic detections.  The world into which people go when they are projecting is in fact very similar to Earth, and will only alter to a different sort of planar alignment at the deep sub conscious records and arousals of the persons projecting.

And so, the whole astral omniverse is just a virtual reality game.  It's a distraction from real astral work which involves developing your meditative abilities and inducing a trance, or, maybe it's more like energizing certain brain regions while others are brought into specific other energy levels.

Do you think that there is a possibility of astral projection being a global mind screw, by either modern advances or ancient technology?  Regardless, I bet some guy will make a movie or a tv series out of this, but regardless of that, I think that it's a question that must be answered.  It is possible, I know it's possible because I know that what they say about technology in the science books shows that there is a lot of potential for subtleties and subversions of the mind via very basic head units.  Let us pray that they never technologically master gravity, for then, all space and time are doomed!!

So ok, maybe I've gone into the negatives with my credibility, even more so now, but I ask this seriously and hope that you realize that such a thing as souls and so forth may only be a programmed response via gravitational manipulation according to historically verifiable personalities.  We can only hope that "The Tyrant Gods" and "The Forbidden Power" are not the true leaders of this world... but it is possible, isn't it?

I dunno, I suppose if I ever astral project, I'll know.

[Goober]

but it is possible, isn't it?

It's also possible I'm a very seductive goldfish.



But that's a another story for another day.

[Mydral]

Oh my God!!!! Quick get my tin-foil protective gear against the evil spy satellites!!!!! 

Dude your paranoia is pretty bad.

Oh and Goober, I shall send my kitty to take care of you 

[kiwibonga]

PerversionsOfEvil, you have the correct attitude to all this ; it's very important not to discard any possibility... Because the moment you do, you shut down many of the possible things you could learn from the Astral.

But then again, indeed, do not let paranoia get the best of you. Speculation can be dangerous!

[PerversionOfEvil]

I believe that pretty much anything is possible.  That alone, given certain conditions, may make it real.
Everything 'seems' to be real, but there is specific hard core facts about any given thing or circumstance, therefore, one must have a solid perspective from which to class whatever perceptions may be aroused unto their mental facility.
You see, being a 'schizophrenic' I well know that most of what people are put through in life is needless and petty and pathetic, yet not so in it's ultimate sense.  I know that there are technologies which can contort the mind and alter reality, it is as simple as attaching a cell phone to your brain.

Even now, I am in the process of acquiring certain tools, screwdrivers and so forth, which will enable me to take apart old broken stereos and make use of their parts to construct my own 'psychotronic' devices.  However, this is a hideous abomination, as I do not think of cybernetic integration of technology into the human apparatus as being required or as being true psionics.

When people think of electricity, they do not seem to realize that electricity is what is powering their brains and bodies.  They think of conductors as being hard metal objects and associate it with magnetism.

And those who mock me in their spite or fearful rage shall be destroyed by the folly of ignorance most fit fot those such ones.  "Oh yes oh yes spies and conspiracies!"  and they mock so playfully and my whole life I have been spat and crapped upon and told that it was only a joke.  You lie, they lie, I trust no one and soon, shortly, I shall construct a device that will prove that the mind can radiate signals and that these signals can be detected and even interfered with.

Those of you who laugh at the technological subversion of all minds... on what do you base your belief in ESP, PK, or Astral Projection?  Where is the arguement against psychotronic or radionic technology?  There is none, and I do certainly expect a little more support from those who claim all these mystic spiritualities and realms of meditation that revelate all things to be pure and holy by their own sense of being.  What petty perversion this world becomes as I stand now, a fully grown man, and to know that my life is a thing of waste by the desolation of it's substance.  I have not seen a world more prone to fallacy and degradation of the very sacred things which it could realize as sacred, this world disgusts me and it is those who mock me and degrade my mind on some baseless theory that I will not tolerate as a reality, not even in 'jest' as so many have uttered forth that my life is that fool's joke and maraders of sanctity attempt to debase what could have been a great force of awakening in a world as hopeless as this.

Do tell me of how sickened my mind is... and I shall say that it is your world which made it so.
Do tell of how all and every single one of them damned conspiracy theories has no basis in reality, for all is delusion where there is a majority disagreeing with a single sensibility, be they themselves the Devils' Brood or the lechery of the dark saints in their anti christness and murders of the children in their media hypnosis.  The reason for the original post of this thread was to determine to what extent the abomination technology has derailed good sense and true spirit.  While I hold great contempt for man, and while to your perception I would seem a man consumed by gross delusions of granduer, I well know the power of the mind unhindered by any force of electronic debauchery, and I well know that if the world will not be paradise before my death, then it shall be wasteland and destroyed...

So where is the arguement against psychotronic technology?  To say "Oh well it doesn't exist." you deny the very machine that you are using, you deny radios and televisions, all these things exist on another level, and damn you if you deny the hard core facts of reality.  I may not be Christ Buddha or Crowley, but I have my place under this name of Poe, and I will not relent in my quest for freedom from the hyper powers of corrupted control mechanisms and degradation of all life that it may be whoredom and grotesque barbarism where once and perhaps once more there was good words and great deeds wrought unto this plane.

[Doringo]

And those who mock me in their spite or fearful rage shall be destroyed by the folly of ignorance most fit fot those such ones.

I'll believe it when it happens.

[Mydral]

Hmm I said it somewhere before. There are always two paths with discovering Astral stuff etc.
One is beeing more aware, spiritual whatever you wanna call it
The other is becoming paranoid, skitzo, a bit crazy... well some a lot crazy (not refering to you Peversion, there were some ppl here before who were totally nuts)

Now to you Peversion:
Believing that anything is possible is the wrong approach, alteast for you since you set yourself no boundaries,.... it leads to paranoia and all that stuff. Not good at all.... sometimes we think too much and need to stop. I know the feeling your going through, I had it with something similar.

Believe in something if you experience it or see it. Then approach everything rational. How can they controll you with technology if they have no access to your house? How come OBE existed before technology was that advanced?
Question yourself, I do not need to make an argument against your theory... I just have to pose questions and it will be defeated.

Technology is exactly what it is... there is no way that you can interfere with someones head using radio waves or electricity.
Study biology please:
We cannot receive radio waves
Yes we use electronic impulses, but its much more complex than simply putting a current through us. They are just used to transfer information, not to make it. They don't make thoughts, they are responsible for body movement for example. There is no "electric code" to create thoughts or emotions. That part is mostly chemical.... why do you think drugs alter moods, sensory input, etc.?
If you apply a current to a brain you will simply destroy it, nothing more will happen.

Common man get a grip of yourself, study science and you will see.

Oh and about cybernetic stuff:
The furthest I think is that some professor put chips inside himself that a pc will recongnize him when he enters the house.
The future:
Controlling the internet etc. with your mind, directly through a chip. Noone will want to do that anyway so don't worry about it.... this would be the only case when you could be kind of controlled.


Sorry I can't give you any support, technology has nothing to do with anything spiritual.
And yes I am beeing very close minded about this, and thats a good thing.

On a final note since I don't want to be totally onesided:
You might be able to controll certain things in the body by directly inserting micro chips into a person. Apply a small electric current to a muscle and it will flex for example. The brain is much more complicated, no technology can do it so far, but they are working on it I think (that proffessor guy wants it bad).
Now notice:
1. They would have to do an operation on you
2. Its metal, magnets would interfere and all kinds of X-ray and metal detectors would detect it
That means you not knowing about it is impossible.

[PerversionOfEvil]

I know what I'm talking about.  I'm not playing the dumb arguement game.  I'll prove it when I build the machines, and damn your insolence to the grave.

[Mydral]

I know what I'm talking about.  I'm not playing the dumb arguement game.  I'll prove it when I build the machines, and damn your insolence to the grave.

As long as you don't hurt anyone... go ahead. How you spend your time is none of my concern. But I can already tell you, you won't be able to construct a machine like that from old stereos. All that is in there is magnets, wires and an antenna... oh and some chipset.

Maybe you should go to Russia or get in contacts with some Russian scientists (or former UDSSR), if anyone knows about this stuff they do. Their science is superior in these things since they have invested so much time in it during the Cold war. Acctually Russian science is the best and most underrated... Kirlian photography comes to mind, pure genius.

[Eloquence]

LOL, nothing beats a good conspiracy theory! 

[PerversionOfEvil]

Mydral, I'm sorry for the 'curse'.
I am very sorry, it's that I was in a bad mood because my point of 'if astral is real, then how much more mind control' was ignored.  I thought it was a really good point, because psionics is real, and it's the real thing where as psychotronics is 'psionic debauchery'.
Don't worry, I'm not going to hurt anyone, the worst I'll do is curse some poor dude out online.

In any event, the purpose of the original message, to increase awareness on the technologies which could, are, or will be used in the future.  Think of it as the brain being hooked directly to an internet interface.

I would love to talk to a Russian scientist, or any scientist really.  My theory centers on dimensional manifestation, and I like to think that I've come a long way, thanks to my early experience with Star Trek and X Men, plus the realities of school.

You see, there is a specific class of microwaves that penetrates the electrical resistance of the human cell structures.  Because these microwaves fall under the bridge point for radio and micro, they can carry acoustic codes.  There is also another one, which I have only recently learned of the existence of, called 'terrahertz', I learned this from wiki.  These, apparently, are similar to the bridge point microwaves.

There is another way.  Inserting, and I am one who thinks that there was some operation done while I was 'out in the world', in LA, but, inserting a type of signal booster, perhaps even in the form of a stronger radiation of some or any kind, and then having this signal jump out of a small permanent hole in the skull, this would allow the whole radiation emission of the human body to be mapped.  Ok, so, here, as it concerns actual technology, I know next to nothing.  But I do know about the different waves, but not nearly enough.  I know they exist.  That's about it.

There are other knowledge forms, but I will not, because I just got up and it takes a while to wake up for me, lame excuse I'm sorry, I can not tell you about them.  It is basically, conditions under specific parameters, which we may liken in a sort of Freudian tapestry or whatever as specific pressures and vibrations which intersect and penetrate or are conducted through the human being.

Have you noticed that you can feel an object, a type of empathy?  You walk into a room, and if it is broad and spacious, then you feel that, possibly, you could feel it even if you were blindfolded.  This is a part of the actual psionics, which has been tampered with by a class of technology which they call psychotronics.

Anyway, it is as simple as attaching a cell phone to your head, one which, because, we can think, we think in sounds, and these sounds could be amplified and transmitted using our body's own em field.  It is a form of cybernetics which is used covertly by various persons with the adequate knowledge and skill to construct the devices.  You may heard of it as Radionics, you can find this stuff on Ebay, the cds that tell you how to build it.

Sorry for calling you insolent, I knew it even as I wrote it that you are not an insolent person, you were merely conveying your strong conviction about these types of technologies.  Again, I am sorry.

[Nameless One]

You said some stupid stuff go to a stupid forum

[Goober]

  I only read up to your second post, PervesionOfEvil. I don't believe in what you believe, but hey, whatever you believe is cool with me. Just don't screw up your brain with this "device" you are working on.

[manuel]

NDE's and OBE's have been documented in many books and studies for centuries, hundreds of years ahead of satellite's and electronic gadgetary, out of all conspiracy theories, this has to be the most strange one I have read, I am not having a rip on you by the way.

[PerversionOfEvil]

What I was trying to say was that astral projection in the modern era is not authentic, and may in fact be a virtual 'dimension' or 'plane'.  There are various methods, none of which I am certain of as a functional mode.

And I insist that attention be paid to the very valid point
-If PK, ESP, and Projecting The Astral are solid realities, then why is it so unbelievable that there would be technology which utilizes similar energy cycles and charges as those used in the paranormal powers?

The problem is, each of those, PK, ESP, and Astral, are sufficient in themselves to explain all 'metaphysical' phenomona.  Astral explains it best, for, when one is tapped into a clairvoyant vision, they may be projecting their astral at a specific depth into a aligned plane moving in approximate time with the material plane.  When one is psychokinetically manipulating a small object, they may be projecting their astral force into the object via a plane oriented in specific spacial vibration to the amount of astral projected and the material force of the object in question.

[CFTraveler]

souls and so forth may only be a programmed response via gravitational manipulation according to historically verifiable personalities

Which would be who?

[PerversionOfEvil]

As for the historically verifiable personalities, these may such as have been acquired since detailed psychological inspections have been made, through psychoanalysis or other potential means.  It may also mean that there are certain neuro key functions which promulgate? identity according to a fixation of internal force frequency.

NodesOfYesod... recently, I have attained memories of a rather gruesome reality, and while I had sworn that I would not incriminate myself on the level of this machine, it is apparent that a few good ideas said to the 'wrong' people can result in a immediate reaction.  I would, of course, stand by any revolutionary notions that aspire to 'freedom from money' and the rest of it, yet, I can not delve into the actuality of the memories or even the event, due to certain mental 'trauma' that pertains to the idealism of nobility after such an event has been made nothing more than the delusions of a very evil hearted man.

I have not had the opportunity to gather much information about string theory, although, I would imagine that it coincides to my own theory work.  My work has a more magical sentiment, in that points are sigils, lines are runes, and planes are still planes.  A point of one line is a plane of another universe, and so on to the ends of time, however, my work is still advancing, quite slowly I must admit.

If reality were that easy to manifest, then long ago I would have spawned forth an army, and with it, devastated this corrupted circle of abomination.  Or, I would have simply uttered a few words, and the universe would have shifted itself accordingly.  While the idea is something that I believe in, it may take many life times to accomplish any dream of Paradise.