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Shinobi

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catmeow

Hi Shinobi

Your commentary is a breath of fresh air...!

Quote from: ShinobiI would challenge your number (that there've only been 700 million humans prior to the current generation), but that's only a quibble around #s, not substance.
Agreed.  I heard the 90% figure somewhere and haven't researched it, but the figure is definitely somewhere between 50% and 90% so we have a problem here!

Your questions are very interesting.

First question. You're correct, I've never heard of a past-life regression where the individual describes a "past life" which is running concurrently with his present life!

Second question. This is a good question. In a universe of no-time there can be no change. Learning implies change.  Therefore there can be no learning.

Anybody got any ideas?

catmeow
The bad news is there's no key to the Universe. The good news is it's not locked. - Swami Beyondananda

Kazbadan

Quote from: Hans SoloKaz-

 KAZ?!!!-

 Don't tell me you haven't read the permanent astral topics!  You have over 1000 post under your belt!  Ahh, just giving you a hard time (that you deserve) :wink:

Best I could do at work,
Han

1000 posts? hmm...i just read the FAQs. Maybe you are speaking about the sticky posts. Must give a look at them..i almost forget it. Dont think that i didnt want to search, sometimes i am just to distracted and i forgot the existence of simple things (like sticky forums for instance :)).

That theory of focus its interesting. I read somewhere that we can be seen like lanterns. We can focus th elight to where we want. Sometimes we focus the light in the physical world and thats all we can see. Other times we may focus the light on the astral realms...some people (Buddha) may have more lights to point too..maybe they can see everything at the same time...

What do you think about this analogy? is it good for understanding the focus that you speak about? or do you speak in a thing slightly different?
I love you!

Frank

Shinobi:

These are excellent questions that I must have overlooked on the other thread you mention.

I freely admit that I (for one) do not have the full answers. I will not get them until I can take in the full picture of Focus 4 of consciousness. I am not even sure whether it is actually possible for a physically focused individual to take in that full picture. Focus 2 and Focus 3 are easy by comparison, as they are so "earth like" or "human like" and people have usually just made something up for the rest. In the olden days they called it "god" in significance of all they couldn't explain. But technology moves on, our understanding widens, and this topic is no different.

Listening to some of the mystics anyone would be forgiven for thinking we were still in the Dark Ages. Dunking witches, burning people at the stake and wearing garlic necklaces to ward off demons. But today we are attempting to broaden our understanding and pave the way for the new paradigm. So here we are calling it Focus 4 of consciousness. An area in consciousness that we can now learn to experience for ourselves (with a little effort in the right direction, of course).

Now, anything involving Focus 4 of consciousness is completely mind blowing, and I do not say this lightly. It is an area I have not been able to "explore" as fully as I would like. It is my current challenge, you could say.

The BIG difficulty with Focus 4 is that it's an area of fully subjective reality. There is no notion of Time, so in turn there is no notion of Space either. Focus 4 occupies no Space at all and yet it encompasses the other areas, namely, Focus 1, 2 and 3. So our whole physical universe (and all the other universes besides, but let's put them aside for a moment) is encompassed by Focus 4. Yet "outside" of Focus 4 there is nothing because Focus 4 encompasses all that is within our system. Focus 4 occupies no space, yet it encompasses our whole physical universe. Okay, so that's the first hurdle. Problem is, to us, if something occupies no space then it cannot possibly exist. Reason being we are so attached to "things".

Second hurdle: to understand Focus 4 it is necessary to take on board an understanding of infinity. This latter aspect is perhaps the most mind-blowing of all. Because, in infinity, everything happens an infinite number of times. Which means everything that has or will come about, has already happened.

From our somewhat limited linear-time perspective, we may consider a life began, it ended, and it began again. But from the perspective of Focus 4, nothing has begun and nothing has ended. All simply IS. The whole notion of beginning and end is a physical construct. From this restricted, highly limited viewpoint, people make far-reaching assumptions about the Wider Reality. Thus, constructs such as "reincarnation" come about. But when you actually look at the FACTS of the matter. When you actually step within Focus 4 and experience it for yourself, all begins falling into place. Well, that is what is steadily happening to me and I cannot be the only person in the world today who has stepped into Focus 4 of consciousness. I realise this kind of thing is quite rare and, hopefully, it will start to become more common as people begin duplicating my work.

Most "life regression" if you wish to call it that (I personally don't mind as I can see what you mean) comes through in the way it does, simply because people present themselves with the opportunities to notice what they choose to address. In that sense, people develop a tastefulness for certain aspects that resonate amongst us. We feel it "makes sense" so we believe it. But this phenomenon can readily occur entirely independently of the facts of the matter in hand; as it does in this case in the light of my hands-on experience.

When we project within subjective reality, each of us typically places ourselves in the position or anticipation of facing objects. But when you enter Focus 4, you cast off all notions of "things" and begin merging with the underlying subjective energy. That same energy, down the line, as it were, will ultimately split off here and there (again all in a manner of speaking) and create a "thing". That thing could be a soccer ball, a human being, a house, a plant, a giraffe, or whatever.

Now, in merging with energy, I do not mean you are merging into a vast pool of nothingness. On the contrary. Typically you are merging with a specific action of energy. I suppose you could say, in a very broad sense (and only in a very broad sense) you are merging with a "thing" but a thing in terms of its conceptualisation, or it's source in other words. And that source of all that is within our system is Focus 4 of consciousness.

So, ultimately, all "things" can be traced to an action in energy, the ultimate source of which is Focus 4. In other words, you could say, Focus 4 is the area of the action of the thought before it is created. But again, only in a manner of speaking because, from the Focus 4 standpoint, there is no before. All simply is. The concept of "before" comes into it as the action is engaged further "down the line" as it were... and that is where the primary mistake is made regarding the notion of reincarnation and past-lives.

All our sense of objectivity revolves around a linear time framework. To the extent where it is, currently, virtually impossible for a person to "step out" of this mode of thought.

It is FAR EASIER to believe in the false notion of reincarnation, and so it becomes! (Better the devil you know, I suppose.) Myself, I am currently finding that disassociating myself from the notion of linear time is next to impossible and takes tremendous mental effort. Okay, maybe I'm just a bit thick and other people would get it more quickly. Either way, the pursuit of this type of experience is not to be sneezed at.

Naturally I am hoping that, at some future stage, a clear set of guidelines can be presented that would make it easier for people to encompass and understand the Focus 4 experience.

Yours,
Frank

Shinobi

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catmeow

Our birth is but a sleep and a forgetting:
The Soul that rises with us, our life's Star,
Hath had elsewhere its setting,
And cometh from afar:
Not in entire forgetfulness,
And not in utter nakedness,
But trailing clouds of glory do we come
From God, who is our home:
Heaven lies about us in our infancy!
Shades of the prison-house begin to close
Upon the growing Boy,
But He beholds the light, and whence it flows,
He sees it in his joy;
The Youth, who daily farther from the east
Must travel, still is Nature's Priest,
And by the vision splendid
Is on his way attended;
At length the Man perceives it die away,
And fade into the light of common day.

- Intimations of Immortality, William Wordsworth (1770-1850)
The bad news is there's no key to the Universe. The good news is it's not locked. - Swami Beyondananda