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Title: reading in the NPR
Post by: soarin12 on September 27, 2013, 00:29:41
What are your experiences of reading in the NPR?  Every once in a while I can read an actual word but always when I try to read it looks scrambled like this.   zxy rltxw zw yxituzl sri   etc.  ???
Title: Re: reading in the NPR
Post by: Szaxx on September 27, 2013, 14:51:25
That's a typical aspect of reading. Looking at a digital clock has the same effect.
The reason that stands out most is that it's feedback from you. You are looking at the words and you don't know what they have to say. This wonderment creates a subconcious pattern in your mind of them being unknown. As a result of thought manifeston, the words manifest into the unknown. You KNOW what words look like so the letters appear to yoy. The meaning isn't known and this seems to affect the.change seen.
Stay calm and just do your best to accept them as they should be. This helps greatly. Another help is get really close so they appear large.
I hope you understand that this is a very common experience. Accepting them as they should be can allow some reading and diagrams of things too are affected.
If you have read that they will be messed up, they will be.
Your expectations are catered for.
Title: Re: reading in the NPR
Post by: LoLmart on September 28, 2013, 15:58:56
I had a very interesting lucid dream once, in which I went with a few other beings ( I don't remember them, I just remember the feeling of being with others together there) to a distant planet (real or projection of my mind - I don't know). There I saw a few books lying on the ground and one of them had a title "John Ativa book" and I got the feeling or someone told me (can't remember that part either lol) that this guy was from Earth and built a spaceship or somthing and travelled there and populated the planet. There were trees with apples and other fruits everywhere. The streets were clean and I saw a public fuc*ing demonstration where one girl was blowing some dude behind glass and people were watching (me too lol). That is when the lucid dream ended. I was really lucid and everything was super bright there. Anyone know anything of John Ativa? I googled it but nothing came up lol :D
Title: Re: reading in the NPR
Post by: Xanth on September 28, 2013, 16:07:42
Because "reading" is a PMR thing.
It's one of the various ways we have learned to pass information from one consciousness to another... but it only exists within the confines of this PMR.

In NPMR there are other methods of which don't exist within this PMR.

So when you're trying to "read" something you find in NPMR, you're trying to read an interpretation of a form of communication.  While your consciousness can translate it to a format you can perceive, you need to have a focused and clear mind in order to "read" it in its "objective" form.

You're seeing gibberish because your mind isn't focused or clear enough to stop your subjective ramblings of what you think you're seeing instead of the objective nature of what you're actually seeing.
Title: Re: reading in the NPR
Post by: soarin12 on September 28, 2013, 20:26:15
Thanks for the replies, guys.  I do feel like I'm already very focused and clear minded when I read it and I've also tried getting really close to it.  I also always have the expectation that I'll be able to read it. Hmm... I don't know what it's going to take but I intend to keep trying!
Title: Re: reading in the NPR
Post by: Lionheart on September 28, 2013, 21:08:46
 Normally when I try to read in the NPR, I encounter the Google search effect. Whereas I can see a couple of letters or symbols, but then my mind kicks in to figure out the rest.

I haven't given up trying to though!  :wink:
Title: Re: reading in the NPR
Post by: Xanth on September 29, 2013, 00:43:27
Quote from: soarin12 on September 28, 2013, 20:26:15
Thanks for the replies, guys.  I do feel like I'm already very focused and clear minded when I read it and I've also tried getting really close to it.  I also always have the expectation that I'll be able to read it. Hmm... I don't know what it's going to take but I intend to keep trying!
What it takes is to have no Intention of assumption of what you're reading.

The problem is that even if you do read something coherent... you really have very little way to figure out if it's objective or subjective.
Title: Re: reading in the NPR
Post by: soarin12 on September 29, 2013, 01:43:28
Quote from: Xanth on September 29, 2013, 00:43:27
What it takes is to have no Intention of assumption of what you're reading.

The problem is that even if you do read something coherent... you really have very little way to figure out if it's objective or subjective.
I didn't assume I would know what it was saying (as far as content), I just assumed that I would be able to read it.  Just like anyone who knows how to read would assume that if they picked up a book they'd be able to read it.

As far as knowing if it's objective or subjective, often you may not be able to tell, but the first time I ever saw the scrambled writing was as part of a precognitive experience I had and so that was obviously objective. Ever since, the writing has seemed like kind of an exciting mystery. 
Title: Re: reading in the NPR
Post by: Xanth on September 29, 2013, 01:50:03
Quote from: soarin12 on September 29, 2013, 01:43:28
I didn't assume I would know what it was saying (as far as content), I just assumed that I would be able to read it.  Just like anyone who knows how to read would assume that if they picked up a book they'd be able to read it.

As far as knowing if it's objective or subjective, often you may not be able to tell, but the first time I ever saw the scrambled writing was as part of a precognitive experience I had and so that was obviously objective. Ever since, the writing has seemed like kind of an exciting mystery. 
The assumption isn't always consciously made.  That's the mistake a lot of people make when I tell them that.

Beliefs, expectations, interpretations, intentions... everyone always just assumes that these are conscious decisions that they make.  Sometimes they are, a lot of times they're not. 
I've actually had people venomously disagree with me that they are always consciously aware of every single belief they have... the irony being that, itself, is a belief.  LOL

As for the objective or subjective thing...
Whether something is real or not is meaningless.
I focus on a different question:  Was what you read helpful to you in any way, shape or form?    :)
Title: Re: reading in the NPR
Post by: soarin12 on September 29, 2013, 15:17:49
Quote from: Xanth on September 29, 2013, 01:50:03
The assumption isn't always consciously made.  That's the mistake a lot of people make when I tell them that.

Beliefs, expectations, interpretations, intentions... everyone always just assumes that these are conscious decisions that they make.  Sometimes they are, a lot of times they're not. 
I've actually had people venomously disagree with me that they are always consciously aware of every single belief they have... the irony being that, itself, is a belief.  LOL

As for the objective or subjective thing...
Whether something is real or not is meaningless.
I focus on a different question:  Was what you read helpful to you in any way, shape or form?    :)
True!  Assumptions aren't always consciously made.  The subconscious is a powerful thing.  I agree that it is probable that it affected my experience.

Was what I read helpful?  Well, that's just it.  I don't know because I never was able to read it!  The writing was just a small part of the precog. experience---the part that remains a mystery.  The rest of the precog. was helpful only in that it added to my knowledge of the nature of the wider reality.  Anyway, it's just a fun puzzle.  Not that I think reading will be some great key to life or anything but I feel it's always a good idea to develop all the skills that we can.  Who knows, they may come in handy someday--even serve a greater purpose.