This is classic sleep paralysis that Robert talks about. I do not know for sure but my experience whould lead me to believe they are not external. They are being created by your subconcious mind. After you seperate in OBE they stop rignt away. That is probally the case. I get all the same type things myself. Voices, bangs and a recient post were I wrote of being touched sexually. I have had sleep paralysis for over 20 years on and off and sometimes even see enities who just stand and look at me. I have never been attacked. I would however read the section here on Protection becouse that is something I do believe in. Even if it is a creation of the mind it is a portion that you can not control at this early stage of your OBE development.
Wow. Great posts you two. Thank you for sharing...
The 'presence' can also be your projectable double. If you look in Astral Dynamics in the part about the mind-split RB gives an example of projection/paralysis from the double and the paralysed selves perspective, from both sides of the same coin. The presence can then be you projected, as percieved from still in your body.
Cezyl
once i saw like "the end of the world in my room"... when i couldn't move, only look around and what i saw was my room with the objects that i have there (even the bed where i was) in another space, like if i moved some of my furniture. i saw lots of holes in the walls, lots of light, and many sounds, like a war.
One time I was drifting to sleep and suddenly heard somebody screaming. A single shriek, that sounded like it came from a woman. It was so sudden and real but it didn't sound like it was in my room or even in the house. It sounded like it came from across the street. I sat straight up in bed wide eyed as soon as I heard it. When I asked my parents about it, they said they heard nothing. Then I read Astral Dynamics, a year later. That had to be an astral noise of some sort, a very convincing one.
Thank you everyone for writing and sharing your experiences with me. Knowing that others have seen and heard terrifying things while on the edge of OBE is reassuring to me.
So I braved my fear and went to sleep last night with the idea that it came from my subconsciousness and that it wouldnt happen again because I didnt want it to. Everything went well and I slept without hearing any crazy noises....even though I slept with a nightlight on...hahaha
I am such a whimp. [:P]
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I am such a whimp.[:P]
haha! Tonight I was like: 'Yay dude! I'm just gonna do it, I'm the Astral Master!'
I went trough a few stages, and when I came near sleep and things finally started rolling, the first thing I felt was a sort of vague presence. Then later a sort of sound, although I'm not sure. It sounded like some huge devilish monster was breathing in my room.. slow beastlike breath. But it was just one breath. Damn, I never quit that fast! Away were my astral plans("I'm the Astral Master!" LOL), I turned to my side, pulled the blanket over me and tried to sleep terrified.
lol.. I'm such a whimp..
So let me tell you what happened this morning and then you can comment on it. I was half asleep/half awake it felt although possibly out of body or starting to go out of body....and suddenly i heard a woman's voice whisper my name twice then I heard sounds of fingernails scratching against my bedroom door or possibly the wall in my bedroom. I felt a very strong presence in the room close to me as well. I was able to see around my room at this point and couldnt see anything but I also could not move. I had heavy waking paralysis so I tried to frantically shake and wake myself up and i did.
Does anyone know what might have happened??? It was the most terrifying thing I have experienced yet. I would like to inform you though that about a month ago I had asked multiple time to meet my spirit guide and for it to help me with OBE. Is it possible that this was my spirit guide but it contacted me in a terrifying way that it didnt know would effect me like it did???
I read in Astral Dynamics about the dweller and all sorts of noises that you might here that are put in place to prevent you from OBE and to just ignore them no matter how real they seem. It even talked about hearing someone calling your name. Do you think that my experience was just what Robert was talking about in his book?
Thanks!
ps.....I am now afraid to go to sleep tonight. [:(][:(][:(][:(][:(]