RTZ OBE

[GANAMOHA]

yea this happens alot at least with me anyways when my astral eyes open but not my physical eyes i worry about it being my real eyes so i open them just to make sure [:O]lol then i realize what it was and im like D!@#it so dont make that mistake

[Rastus]

It's really fun when you have your physical eyes open but you don't see anything []  Or you close your eyes then open again, and the scene doesn't change either way

Try getting a sleep mask, or use a necktie over you eyes.  That way you "know" your eyes are closed and you won't be distracted.

[funinfloating111]

thanks for the replys. i have been wanting to try a sleep mask, my little sister has a pink kitty one lol. and, just for confidense, do you guys think im getting close?

[Rastus]

I've said it before, but it bears repeating.  Trying to force it will only hurt yourself.  I know you desperately want to do it, but that attitude can hinder you.

Try something different tonight.  Instead of trying to project (no pressure now), just see how deep you can go.  What your shooting for is to get into Auric vision and then onto Astral vision.  You do NOT have to be body asleep to do this, and in fact it's possible to go get a sandwhich and a glass of milk in this state with enough practice.  You can pay attention and see if opening or closing your eyes makes a difference.  Look at your feet and hands.  If you slip into a lighter state, no problem, regualte your breathing and slip back down.  It's actually good practice excercise to come up, go get a drink of water, then come back and slip back down.

Again, the whole idea is to play around a little bit without the pressure of trying to OBE.

[funinfloating111]

i know what you mean by getting hurt by trying too hard. when i first started i would get terrible headaches, and i also would be trying way too hard. After that i started trying astral phasing and was succesful twice (it was different than normal phasing because they were both right after i woke up in the middle of the night, and i was right at focus 21. i have yet to experiance going from C-1, to focus 10, to focus 12, and beyond) but im still really intreged by the thought of seeing myself sleeping. so i am actually very comfertable in focus 10 and slip in and out of it alot. i have too sleep in the same bed as my little brother because hes scared of aliens lol. he likes to wiggle and stuff. i think thats what il do tonight, play around with the state im familier with instead of just pushing my self deeper and deeper.

[Rastus]

M'kay, you didn't get this from me []  Get really deep.  Disturb your brother so he wakes up, pretend to be sleeping.  Now, turn your sight onto him as he goes back to sleep.  You looking to see his astral self leave as he falls back to sleep.  You probably won't, but you may "feel" it when he does, look at his head.  This is because your two Aura's recognize each other, and should be comfortable together.  You can also use him as a target for Auric/Astral sight.

[funinfloating111]

wow that was wierd rastus. my little brother was actually laying still so i went into trance and was just thinking when i felt the bed shake, not alot only like a little bump. anway i knew, at that moment my brother just left his body. it was wierd because i diddnt notice it with any of my normal 5 senses, it was something else. anyway after that i decided too be nice and not wake him up for fun lol, i experianced what i wanted. for some reason i diddnt think to look at him too see his aura or anything. after that i dozed off.

[funinfloating111]

hello, i have a couple of questions about the standerd, float out of your body into your bedroom, projection. first of all should you do it when your in trance, or monroes focus 10, or should you go into a deeper state of sleep to do it (like theta and delta). when i try it i usually get very strong sensations but never vibrations. what do you mean by vibrations? i do, however, get a feeling like i was plugged into a wall socet, and i get a very intense electricution feeling, its quite unexplainable. is this the vibrations you guys are always talking about? and sometimes when i feel im getting close i can see my bedroom but i cant tell if its my physical or astral eyes, so i try closing my eyes because i fear that if they were my physical eyes i would ruin the process. does this happen to alot of people when they first open there astral eyes? also should you work on getting your primary chakras activated before you attempt to exit the body, i do but sometimes theres so much energy my physical body starts shaking and my bed feels like its moving (kinda like the exorcist lol) its distracting though. well im just curios about what you guys think so thanks alot [8D]