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Title: Reoccuring Violent and Uncontrolable Movement
Post by: simple1 on September 08, 2011, 22:06:13
Hello Everyone,
I hope that i have posted this in the correct place and someone here can offer some insight.

I have experienced AP's/OBE's since i was very young. I have never encountered any difficulty doing anything i wanted to do in a very controlled manner for what seems like all night.

Recently (the last 2 years) it has been different. VERY DIFFERENT

I feel like i am encountering something dark which is pulling me out of my body and throwing me violently around my room (not like normal "vibrations").
The presence is very strong and is severely limiting my ability to do anything.

The experience starts normally (sinking feeling) roll to the side and im out, then... I can feel something else there with me.

I am suddenly thrown, fast and hard, to the right up against the wall then down against the floor then hard against the door. I am feeling that I am not wanted there. I cant see what it is, and don't ask me why but the presence feels DARK!

This goes on for some time until I awake, still feeling like the presence is in the room with me... watching me.

The only way I am able to escape the presence while I am projecting is to exit my bedroom. Lately, this has been very difficult.

This happens more often when I am sleeping in my bed alone but lately it is happening with my fiancé by my side. I am not sure if this is relevant but the other night I bumped in to her standing up beside her asleep body. It shocked me to see her there and it looked like it shocked her too.
She disappeared. As a non projector, she had no recollection of this when she woke.

I hope someone can help, the last 3-4 nights have been very intense and seem to be getting darker and darker. *shivers*

-sorry for the long winded post

Title: Re: Reoccuring Violent and Uncontrolable Movement
Post by: CFTraveler on September 08, 2011, 22:28:14
Hi Simple1.
It is possible you are having what I call 'Dweller on the Threshold' syndrome- a partially separated energy body that causes feedback, which causes fear to be reflected back at you in a feedback loop- because the solution to the problem is to reintegrate, you may feel 'pulled' and have great fear, that is often visceral and unrelated to any thought process.
If your fiance is sleeping with you when this happens it's possible (since you're partially separated and receiving input from both the physical and nonphysical environment) you may 'see' her expanded or projected energy body, which makes the situation more difficult and confusing.
Usually 'going towards' the presence instead of trying to get away from it solves the problem momentarily (because you may get launched when reintegration happens)- the projection will be short and you will wake quickly from it.  This is easier said than done because you must fight through the fear, but it goes away once you get close enough to your projected energy body.

If you want to prevent this from happening (that is, projection, period) do some grounding exercises before bed- dump energy to the earth through your feet, for example.  But if there's some pressing reason that you must project you will, whether you want to or not.
Title: Re: Reoccuring Violent and Uncontrolable Movement
Post by: simple1 on September 08, 2011, 22:54:43
Thanks for the fast reply, I wish it was that simple.
I have moved towards the energy many times (willingly and unwillingly) and it seems to make it worse (almost like there is a feeling of anger at my presence). I love projecting and by no means do I wish to stop.
Title: Re: Reoccuring Violent and Uncontrolable Movement
Post by: spark on September 09, 2011, 00:13:27
Hello.  I have not experienced what you are talking about, but I have had a lot of experiences dealing with so called negs.  I found that if I focus on feelings of love, and really embrace those feelings and excude those feelings, and concurrently turn my focus away, the negs tend to fade away.  Over time, the negs seem not  to come around too.  Although, from time to time, I experience that and do the same thing again.  Anyway, I suggest that you try feelings of love, as corny as it sounds.  I don't mean to embrace the neg, but to kind of bask in your own love, and to say goodbye and leave the neg.  Anyway, just my thoughts.  Good luck.
Title: Re: Reoccuring Violent and Uncontrolable Movement
Post by: Lionheart on September 09, 2011, 01:08:47
 Try phasing, it is much more easier then the roll out method and produces faster entrances. Also, try putting a a mental White Light around your body.
Title: Re: Reoccuring Violent and Uncontrolable Movement
Post by: simple1 on September 09, 2011, 07:34:23
Thanks Lionheart! Tonight i am going to try and face it.
The mental white light is a fantastic idea (something i have not tried before)?

Hi Spark, as someone who has dealt with negative energy before, why do you think this "neg" has sought me out?
Why doesn't it want me there and why doesn't it follow me out of my bedroom?

Well... off i go... wish me luck  :wink:
Title: Re: Reoccuring Violent and Uncontrolable Movement
Post by: spark on September 09, 2011, 12:17:32
Hello.  First, I would like to emphasize that I don't necessarily buy-in so quickly that what we perceive to be is really so.  So, I would not assume that just because we see and interact with things that seem to be so called negs, that that is what is occurring.  So, the question of "why it has sought you out" to me is based on huge assumptions.  Anyway, most people do not share my views, but as an FYI, I have OBE'd thousands of times, can do at will, and have much experience with so called energy, etc., even in the waking state.  I just think it is critical to remain open minded about things, or rather not to make conclusions, but to observe and grow.  Second, I believe that the "white light" idea is similar to the love idea.  I strongly recommend you try what I was saying.  I know others that have done that too; I've done it perhaps a hundred or so times.  And, I think it is helpful in terms of helping you to understand the importance of "love" -- to me love is more of an energetic state ... kind of being in harmonic sync with the world.  I tend to see dreamland as "maybe" a training grounds, where we learn about things, and can apply those things here.  For example, I think much of what we see might just be training of sorts.... sometimes maybe so called real, often maybe not.