That's why I just stick with the term "out of body experience." Not as confusing.
Anyways, the Real Time Zone, or Etheric Plane, as some people call it, is like the Physical plane, but the rules aren't as strict. You can fly, move faster than light, float through stuff, and more. It seems as though you're doing this in your physical environment, though.
That's really the difference between an "Astral Projection" and a "Real Time Zone Projection."
The Astral doesn't seem to be your physical environment.
DarkQuest,
Try this site and listen to the Audio Interview with Robert Bruce, he speaks about RTZ, I found it very informative. [:D]
http://www.soultravel.nu/Channel/
Nay [;)]
Darkquest....just wanted to let you know that I moved your topic from General Metaphysics to OBE Discussions, since I felt it was more appropriate here. I hope you don't mind.
oh okay its no problem moving it, thats prolly why nobody answered me in august lol. ill check out the audio interviews more, but id like more imput if anybody has any thx
I'll try and answer your question as best as I know how. First off, let me preface this by saying NO ONE knows ALL the answers. With that said, I will give you my interpretation of things.
When thinking about the difference between the RTZ and the Astral Zone, think about it like an onion. An onion is comprised of many different layers. Each layer looks a lot like the preceding layer, but with little differences. The further you go into the onion layers, the less likely they look like the outer layer.
The RTZ is nothing more than a projection into the "layer" closest to the physical realm. Some people get all technical and say, "Ahem....well, the RTZ is an OBE in your etheric body, and an AP is an OBE in your astral body."
Well, I don't know much about the terminology when it comes to "which spiritual body I'm operating in at any given moment." However, I can tell you that different projections feel different. Sometimes, you feel heavy and other times you feel light. Sometimes you have an incredible amount of control, and other times, you flop every which way like a fish out of water.
You ask if you can do "stuff" to people without them noticing in the RTZ. The answer is yes. There are many times when it seems like people can't see you, and then there are other times when they talk back and have no conscious memory of the convervation.
Gotta get back to work over here.....hope I helped you somewhat.
oh i understand what your saying now, thanks. even thought id like to AP i think that a RTZ projection would also be a great experience and something great to learn from.
Hey, i really hope to finally start the 90 day course on AP. (I keep delayin it lol but i hope to make a good schedule) but i read in this other topic about RTZ Projection (It was in the one about Finally Levitating.) Well how is a RTZ projection different from an AP, like i dunno the feeling what u can do in it, and is one easier to get to then the other. and assuming RTZ Projection is Real-Time Zone Projection, right? can you like do stuff that other people would notice or whatnot? im curious about all this so could someone explain to me RTZ or at least give me a link id really appreciate it thx.
now its november and i was wonderin if anybody is willing to give input now? lol id really like to know if anybody has more info on it plesae.