OBE, or not OBE?

[curiousgirl]

hmm... it's really hard to tell what's going on from the conversation... were you able to talk to her some more about it later on, for more details?  if so, maybe you could give a quick rundown of the story in your own words, and maybe it'll be clearer so we can figure out exactly what happened.

[djdarkshade]

Wait wait I'm on the phone with her....
She said an image just poped into her head....
"there we're like 2 people hunched over, 'n' their eyes we're like... up. Their heads we're tilted down and their eyeballs we're rolled up. their arms we're kinda saggy. they had gross hair. Their skin was all freaky... it was like.. eww I dunno it was all... nasty... it was like dry 'n' wrinkly 'n' moist 'n'... uuggg it was nasty."

She said, while I was talking to her, that the doornob turned from left to right, and then went back again.

Anyways, I asked her more about this "Amy."........ She said the only amy she can think of that she knows is her cuz's girlfriend. I asked more about it and learned bout 'm' a little..... Nothin really big though.

I dunno, when I talk to her on the phone it seems like she spaces out sometimes.... I dunno.... 'n' she sings... little songs 'n' things.... for no reason I guess.... but she started singing the muffen man song a few times....

Thanks,
--==[Nathan]==--

[sstonevenuss]

i have to go, this place is closing around me, i will be back am tomorrow...sorry!! A.

[djdarkshade]

well well well.
Whats this. I was talking to her on the phone and she started kinda mumbling... you know, not real words, just... blah type stuff. Well it sounded wierd so I looked up some of the words on the internet, typed as best I could. both of the ones I looked up registered under a language from Tanzania, called "Swahili". The words that I cought said "Tie (fasten) Iron", and in Swahili, "Funga Chuma".

Anyways, interusting stuff.
Thanks.
--==[Nathan]==--

[Greytraveller]

Althouth it Is hard to tell from that conversation it is Likely that she did have an OBE. Many people who suffer from personality disorders are also Greatly affected by the medication that they take. So it is quite possible that she is naturally prone to go out of body because of her mental personality AND the meds she takes facilitated an OBE. Her description of walking about and listening to her mother's conversation sound like it is More than a just a dream or imagination.[]

[JustLikeThePill]

towards the end it sounded like theres a ghost or something in her house and maybe those 2 guys murdered amy? freeaaakkky.

[djdarkshade]

a few days ago I received this email from her.

ok, so i got homelate and hadn't eaten much all day, so i was really
hungry... so i ate dinner hella fast and went to my computer. then my
dad comes and says i have to come and talk with my ''people''...and then
he was ''frustrated'' with my stepmom  because she wouldn't talk
and wanted to clean the kitchen instead. and then he yells at me to go
unload the dishwasher, and so i do that pissedly, and he yells at me
more, then melissa says stuff to me ( i don't member what) and i
basically fell to the floor crying, in a little corner... after that i
don't remember what happened, but apparently i got really ticked and
started throwing things and threw a temper and screamed and shouted and just... just screaming at the top of my lungs, and telling everyone to shut the bonk up.... and then i came to my senses on the floor crying hystericaly with my stepmom and my dad by my sides, and hen i started coughing and then my stomach started hurting really badly and my nose was running, so i go to my bathroom, blow my nose, and then the next thing i remember was in slow mo - but i don't remember most of it , only parts... i remember my breathing was frekaing out, like really deep but fast breaths, like hyperventilation type things, exdcept.. it seemed more fast and furious...  and i remember my head hit the counter, then the tub, and my side hit one of the knobs on the drawers, and all the sudden i was on the ground and my arm was numb. and then right after that (real time approx  30 mins) my dad's kicking me, telling me to stop acting and get up and get to my bed  ... so i have to like .. crawl to my bed because i couldn't stand for some reason, i dunno why not, and then my dad comes and talks to me and this weird lil voice yet again comes out of my mouth, and it wasn't me, but it was me physically saying it.... and it  said 'you yelled at me' and 'i don't know'  ... other than that, i don't remember. about 10 minutes later i called you, crying my butt off and just wanting to hear your voice.

[djdarkshade]

I was talking to my friend.
With a background of drug usage, alchol, and etc., I wasn't very supprized. But at her age (Which I will not disclose) it doesn't seem quite right. First I thought, oh, Skitzophrania (schizzo, SP). Then I rememberd reading about that one dude that was a famous dude from obe's 'n' stuff. It sounded like it, especially the viberations part. I, and her,'ld like to know what is going on. I know that your not all doctors, but I thought if it had anything to do with ap or rtz stuff you'ld be the ones to ask. Here is a copy of our conversation.

The username displayed is incorrect, for security/privacy perpouses.
Mine is sevey_psycho, as you can see. You can contact me by it if you'ld like.

Tom: heyhey
sevey_psycho: heyyy!
Tom: how are you ?
sevey_psycho: good
sevey_psycho: u?
Tom: awesome
Tom: i'm good
Tom: excpe
Tom: tno
Tom: i'm good
Tom: except what?
Tom: nothing
sevey_psycho: aww come on
sevey_psycho: what is it
Tom: i'm freaked out
sevey_psycho: aww why?
Tom: cause i'm afraid i'm losing my sanity
Tom: just know your not
Tom: and you wont
Tom: but
Tom: but i creeped out last night
Tom: and and
Tom: and
Tom: it's creepy
sevey_psycho: hey hey slow down
sevey_psycho: tell me bout it
sevey_psycho: tell me everything
Tom: okok
Tom: ok.. so i was talking to my stepmom, and all the sudden i go into these convulsions.. which i thought were psycho sematic because i don't know exactly why.. i usually can stop them after they start happening.. but no, not that time
Tom: they kept going
Tom: and goin
Tom: and going
sevey_psycho: Okay okay
Tom: and then i like.. passed out
sevey_psycho: Convulsions
sevey_psycho: what are they?
Tom: and then like 10 mins i woke up again
Tom: um
sevey_psycho: be more detailed
Tom: i started shaking violently, especially my arms
Tom: and my breathing wasn't normal
Tom: neither was my heartbeak
Tom: beat*
Tom: heartbeat*
sevey_psycho: yeah
sevey_psycho: tell me more?
Tom: and so then i passed out... or went to sleep kind of.. but i knew i wasn't asleep.. i could feel it, but i couldn't get up
Tom: i couldn't open my eyes
Tom: i wasn't in control of my body
Tom: then i suddenly opened my eyes and sat up
Tom: and i looked around for a long time
sevey_psycho: okay lets pause
Tom: and in the back of my mind
Tom: ok
Tom: what
sevey_psycho: hold that thought
Tom: k
sevey_psycho: now, you said you looked around for a long time
Tom: yeah
sevey_psycho: what we're you thinking while you looked around
Tom: like i didn't know where the fck i was
Tom: there was a piece of my mind that i knew where i was, but i couldn't get to it
sevey_psycho: okay
sevey_psycho: lets go back up for a second
Tom: k
sevey_psycho: what did it feel like to not be in control. How did it feel, and what we're you thinking?
Tom: i couldn't feel anything.. and i wasn't thinking.. it was just like 'where am i?'
Tom: that's abouti t
sevey_psycho: how long did that state last?
Tom: my stepmom said about 20 mins
sevey_psycho: Holay
sevey_psycho: wow
sevey_psycho: okay now before we go on
Tom: and then i got up and looked in the kitchen and in my room
Tom: okokok
sevey_psycho: tell me, what we're you and your Mom talking about?
sevey_psycho: if I may ask
Tom: about how our relationship was based on a lie
Tom: and it was
Tom: because i was lying to her
Tom: and she built this relationship on some person who doesn't exist
Tom: and she wanted to know me as ME
sevey_psycho: well in my personal oppinion I would say thats partly what triggered it
sevey_psycho: okay
sevey_psycho: now you said
sevey_psycho: when it was over
sevey_psycho: in the back of your mind....
Tom: that's not it
Tom: at all
Tom: wait
Tom: now i don't know what you're saying
Tom: now i'm confused
Tom: were you asking me something ?
sevey_psycho: yeah
Tom: oh
Tom: sorry
sevey_psycho: Tom: and in the back of my mind
Tom: i don't get it
Tom: oh
Tom: in the back of my mind, i knew where i was, but i couldn't access it
Tom: i mean
Tom: i could
Tom: but i couldn't
sevey_psycho: so u knew where u we're but........ hmmmm
Tom: yeah
sevey_psycho: reminds me of schitz0
sevey_psycho: however u spell it
Tom: yeah
Tom: sorry
Tom: can i go on ?
sevey_psycho: please, do
Tom: ok
Tom: so i walked around and didn't know where the bonk iw as for another 20 or 30 minutes, and then i stood about 20 feet away from my front door, and i'm not sure if i was dreaming or what, but i saw the lock turn so that the door was no longer locked
Tom: and i couldn't get any closer to the door
Tom: my body wouldn't let me
Tom: and there was a little voice inside of my head saying 'you can go. you can leave this place. right now.'
Tom: and that's when i fell down sideways half onto the couch
Tom: and passed out
Tom: or ... whatever i did before that als
Tom: o
Tom: and my stepmom came back out
Tom: and she kept saying things
Tom: or.. at least i think she did
Tom: she was moving her mouth, but i wasn't sure if she was talking
Tom: and i didn't know relaly who she was
Tom: and why the hell she was there
Tom: and then she got my dad, because i had passed out again or whatever
sevey_psycho: wait was she on the phone with you?
Tom: and they put me all the way onto the couch
Tom: no
Tom: in person
sevey_psycho: oh
sevey_psycho: wow...
Tom: yeah
sevey_psycho: can I pause for a sec?
Tom: yeah
Tom: sure
Tom: go head
sevey_psycho: you said you saw the lock turn. Did you ask your mom if she saw it?
Tom: no
Tom: but when i woke up it was unlocked
Tom: and i know before that it was locked
Tom: because i locked it a couple hours earlier
sevey_psycho: okay so u locked it, passed out, and it was unlocked?
Tom: yeah
sevey_psycho: it sounded like you saw it unlock
Tom: yeha
Tom: but i didn't do it
Tom: i was standing 20 feet from the dor
Tom: i didn't do it
Tom: and noone else was there
sevey_psycho: did you actuly see it turning from left to right, or we're you passed out
sevey_psycho: ?
Tom: i saw it
Tom: turning from right to left ;P
sevey_psycho: okay... but you said you passed out, and woke up, and when you woke up, it was open
Tom: well
Tom: i saw it
Tom: i was standing there
Tom: and THEN i passed out
Tom: right after hta
Tom: t
sevey_psycho: oh
sevey_psycho: okay.... now you said ur arms we're shaking.... I know this is goin back a ways but I have an idea
Tom: its ok
Tom: go ahea
Tom: d
sevey_psycho: and I'm sure I know what this is
Tom: i want to know what's going on
Tom: what is it?
sevey_psycho: I'll tell in a sec... u said ur arm's we're shaking - did it feel like viberations kind of? or was it more like...... twitches?
Tom: uh
Tom: really violent vibrations
Tom: it wasnt twitching necessarily
sevey_psycho: ah-HA!
Tom: what ?
sevey_psycho: okay okay lets continue on. You we're saying they put you up compleatly on the couch
Tom: right
Tom: and so a little while later i just opened my eyes suddenly and this little creepy voice was talking.. and i think my lips were moving, but iw asn't sure ... and it sang the muffin man song about 20 times, and then it said stuff like 'help' 'get me out' 'they wont let me leave' 'help me' 'help me leave ' 'let me out of here'
Tom: and then it faded off after i'm guessing about 10 minutes
Tom: and then tihs lower voice said 'what did you do with amy? did you kill her? you killed her, didn't you?'
Tom: and then i passed out again




I prolly messed up in the editing somewhere... sorry...
plz respond asap... she's freakin out