Scared to have an OBE at night.

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schulzy175

It's 5:00am right now where i live and i have been waking up and falling asleep countless time this night, and suddenly as i was falling asleep, i was paralyzed and felt the vibrations hard and everything got real loud so i forced myself to stop. Thats not what scared me though, what scared me was the things that would be trying to scare me in the astral planes. So i have a few questions, since there is no time in the astral planes, if its dark outside at like 4:00, is it dark in the astral planes?

GodsProxy

No correlation, even the real TZ (astral in the physical environment whre you are now), things should appear much brighter, as if they are back lit by a magical glow.

The trick to going through the vibrations, is just to accept the fear and hold tight.

No need to be scared ever, you will always return to your body, and there are even tricks to bring you back in a hurry, just in case. The real problem is to extend your stay there. Always remember, fear is a self fulfilling prophesy. Personally, I've never seen anything that scared me that much on the astral ;)

Quote from: schulzy175 on August 03, 2011, 06:04:25
It's 5:00am right now where i live and i have been waking up and falling asleep countless time this night, and suddenly as i was falling asleep, i was paralyzed and felt the vibrations hard and everything got real loud so i forced myself to stop. Thats not what scared me though, what scared me was the things that would be trying to scare me in the astral planes. So i have a few questions, since there is no time in the astral planes, if its dark outside at like 4:00, is it dark in the astral planes?

schulzy175

Well, the fear is comming from stories of people seeing entities just stare at them. Thats the fear part. the vibrations and paralysis is no problem, just random people staring at you :/.

Xanth

So what you're saying is that you stopped when you thought something might happen... you were in the best position and you let fear takeover.  Realize that you're 100% safe and go with it next time.:)

astraladdict

Nothing can hurt you. Make yourself glow white if you need to. There's nothing at all to be afraid of.

~astraladdict
My smile tells lies, but my eyes tell the truth...

Boom

I must admit. I actually prefer to attempt AP when its light outside.  I too can get the heeby geebies (the creaps) or whatever you want to call it, at night, when its dark.

I live in a warm climate, the house cools down at night and it cracks and creaks. Plus when im hitting the phase I get hypnogic sounds and I hear extra shuffles and stuff which sound like theyre coming from my room. Sometimes I just have to abort the attempt because I just need to open my eyes to ensure there is nothing amiss in the room.

I also get worried that when I start feeling the fear, that if I did successfully project, then these fears could manifest themselves and give me a negative experience.  However in the early hours of the morning it is the best time to project. Just put some lights on in your room. Its what I do.

QuoteIs it dark in the astral when its dark outside?
On one of my own succesful projections, it was dark outside. So I made it turn light because I wanted it to go light! :)

astraladdict

The realm has it's own weather/time of day. Even if it's night out here in the physical, it may be mid morning in the realm.

~astraladdict
My smile tells lies, but my eyes tell the truth...

Stookie_

I suggest using fear as a motivator. Whenever I get really freaked out about something that makes me want to hold back, I tell myself that I HAVE to do it no matter what and push forward through it. It builds strength and confidence and you'll achieve your goals faster.

I remember back in the beginning of my OBE days and getting to the vibes and scaring myself out of it, until one day I was so determined I just told myself "the worst thing that can happen is you'll die". Of course I knew that wasn't true, but pushing through with that attitude brought me OBE success.

schulzy175

I know im 100% safe, but its just creepy as hell having someone or something you dont even know stare at you or stare at you right as you leave your body. If it happens again, im just going to go with it. btw, if it does happen again, and i get out, im going to ask for my guide  :-D

GodsProxy

Good idea.

Stookie is correct. Go through the fear. Nobody in their right minds wouldn't feel fear. That means don't react when the fear hits - do nothing - and the vibes etc get stronger.

Guide should also work, if you're there.

Quote from: schulzy175 on August 03, 2011, 11:47:15
I know im 100% safe, but its just creepy as hell having someone or something you dont even know stare at you or stare at you right as you leave your body. If it happens again, im just going to go with it. btw, if it does happen again, and i get out, im going to ask for my guide  :-D

Lionheart

 You can also try explaining to your guide before you actually exit that you would like him/her to stand behind you until you get the hang of the Astral world. That seems like a reasonable request to me!

schulzy175

Well. it finally happened again, but I layed there for about 1 min and then opened my eyes and nothing. I think i ruined it when i opened my eyes, but I really want to know how to trick my body and i can never get it!? I tried today and i felt a really heavy weight on my body and a real quick vibration, then nothing, it went away. Later on that same time i was trying, i felt the same thing again, but nothing again, it just went away. What is going on?

astraladdict

You are trying to hard. Don't even try. Just do it. It's natural. When thoughts come in grab them lightly, keep your mind away from physical body.

~astraladdict
My smile tells lies, but my eyes tell the truth...

schulzy175

but is this progress or just a natural occurrance that i think is progress?

astraladdict

Everything is trying to progress, you're holding yourself back.

~astraladdict
My smile tells lies, but my eyes tell the truth...

iscott

#15
whenever I'm in a state of sleep paralysis their always seems to be a a really kind of greyish hazy atmosphere. however sometimes its just dark.

However, I once fell asleep on my parents couch during the afternoon, and the sun was shining. When I awoke in a state of sleep paralysis it was still light outside, Everything appeared to be normal. My girlfriend was sitting beside me and my mother was talking about something. So i don't know
I walk in shadow between worlds

GodsProxy

Well, I'm not sure what to do if you're in sleep paralysis and you wake up. My suggestion would be to stay absolutely still and hope you go through vibrations. Then you have an AP "for free". What do others think?

I'm not sure about the hazy atmosphere. This might mean you are in between the realm and the physical. I imagine you might experience dual site, astral and physical.

Quote from: iscott on August 09, 2011, 01:40:56
whenever I'm in a state of sleep paralysis their always seems to be a a really kind of greyish hazy atmosphere. however sometimes its just dark.

However, I once fell asleep on my parents couch during the afternoon, and the sun was shining. When I awoke in a state of sleep paralysis it was still light outside, Everything appeared to be normal. My girlfriend was sitting beside me and my mother was talking about something. So i don't know