Seeking help for my dead father.

[TorosDead]

The only thing that I can think of is to continue to pray for him, and when you visit him again in the astral try to recall and delve further into what is truly bothering him.  Perhaps after a few more times speaking with him you will understand what is making him feel that way and maybe begin to help him through it.

[Ginny]

quote:Originally posted by Soulfire

Soulfire,

I'm going to answer your PM shortly--:o).

Ginny

[Soulfire]

Thanks so far for the people who have been kind enough to respond to this.  []

One additional note that I forgot to include, a few of the times I have seen my father in the Astral (including this last one) were "Real Time Zone" projections while a couple were in a more abstract environment.  I don't know if this matters, but thought I would mention it.

--Soulfire

[Zarklon]

I think you should try telling him what you wrote to us in your thread and maybe explaining how you are able to meet him through OBE if he doesnt know already. Telling him how you feel somewhat closer to him now might comfort him a bit. Since we probably have much different religious beliefs my advice wouldnt be much help to you ;( I hope you work things out.

Zark

[m87]

How are you comming on this Soulfire?   I may be able to help if you contact me.

[Soulfire]

Hi,

I am very concerned about my father who passed away almost a year ago.  I have visited him astrally several times since he has passed away.  Usually it does not last long because I get too emotional when I see him and end up back in my body.  All the times I have seen him he has seemed very sad and lonely (other than once).  The one time he seemed happy, I got the distinct impression that I somehow went back in time and was seeing him when he was alive rather than in the astral.  After posting today on somebody's topic about visiting the recently deceased, I decided to try to see him again using a conscious exit AP.

He was still in the same room where he spent most of his time the least years of his life.  He seemed sad and lonely again.  He did not notice me until I got his attention, but then he recognized me.  He did not seem excited and happy to see me like he has the other times.  I explained to him that I had visited him several other times but was not able to stay long and he acknowledged that he remembered.  Then I asked him how he was doing and he said "Not good".  I asked him what was wrong exactly, looking for something I could use to help him, and the details of the projection begin to get a little cloudy here.  As close as I can remember he said something about "feeling like he was not the favorite".  I also remember looking closely into his eyes and they were milky looking blue (almost like cataracts although he never had those in life) and sort of "lost" and "distant" looking.  I remember having a very "disturbed" feeling seeing his eyes.  Then I was back in my body wishing I could have finished my conversation or said something that might have helped him.  I was not totally overwhelmed with emotion like I was the other times I had my visits prematurely terminated, but I did sit up and felt quite sad and somewhat disturbed.  I suspect even though I tried very hard to control my emotions that they got away from me too much to maintain the projection.

If my projection experiences are accurate, then my father is very unhappy and is still very much clinging closely to his physical life which was also not particularly happy.  Sometimes he has been "working" when I see him in the astral, often he is sleeping, but always sad and lonely.  Sadly he did die a lonely man.  I was always closer to my mother than to him.  He and my mom had not really gotten along in 20 years and he didn't have many real friends.  My dad and I both always knew we loved each other, but we were not as close as I wish we were.  Oddly, since he has passed away I have felt in a way closer to him than I did when he was alive.  

I often talk to him in my waking state, try to tell him I love him and thank him for all the wonderful ways he was there for me during my life.  I always believed he heard all those things, but my astral experiences with him make me doubt that he has.  I just feel that he is still very lost, sad, and lonely.  I have tried praying for him, asking angels and other deceased relatives to help him, etc. If I am seeing him accurately in my projections however, none of this has seemed to help him.

Hopefully this all makes sense, but if not it is because I am writing it at 4:30AM immediately after recording my projection in my journal and I am pretty tired.  :/

Does anybody have any advice?

--Soulfire