Hello,
I do not like calling dreams lucid or not obe's maybe it is because
the queen in England hands them out to people for good work(respect to the good work though)
With my own experincesi would say that they are great very inspiring and somewhat criptickly linked with the past present and future and can help you in your life in turn you then helping others.
I had this recurring dream of a man taking me and one of my sisters
nearly every week and putting cotton wool in our mouths, this happened from about 5yrs to 11yrs old.When i was 11 istood up to this man and found he was weak and wanted forgiveness the dreams stopped.
Its maybe hard for me to admit that this man is my DAD and my sisters
cotton wool effect for him has resulted in her now having to shake alot of his habits/traits off shes nearly there we all hope.
I've nearly alway spoken my mind with my dad he is a great guy when he wants to be 10% but always fluctuating.
I'm sure the answer to your question could vary from person to person
but the length and breadth of your story made me write this.
So yes OBE's are GOOD!!
Thanks
QuoteOriginally posted by charlamarstrus
Hello,
I do not like calling dreams lucid or not obe's maybe it is because
the queen in England hands them out to people for good work(respect to the good work though)
With my own experincesi would say that they are great very inspiring and somewhat criptickly linked with the past present and future and can help you in your life in turn you then helping others.
I had this recurring dream of a man taking me and one of my sisters
nearly every week and putting cotton wool in our mouths, this happened from about 5yrs to 11yrs old.When i was 11 istood up to this man and found he was weak and wanted forgiveness the dreams stopped.
Its maybe hard for me to admit that this man is my DAD and my sisters
cotton wool effect for him has resulted in her now having to shake alot of his habits/traits off shes nearly there we all hope.
I've nearly alway spoken my mind with my dad he is a great guy when he wants to be 10% but always fluctuating.
I'm sure the answer to your question could vary from person to person
but the length and breadth of your story made me write this.
So yes OBE's are GOOD!!
Thanks
Ello,
That's neat that the queen hands out inspiration like that, never knew it could be used in that form ( very cool!!! )
I have been inspired many times by my OBE's! In reality I make it part of my life to inspire & helped others as well as myself. Sleep is someplace where no one else can invade. Well it's suppose to be like that. I should tell -u- When I experienced the intimacy part of the OBE I was a virgin, had not had sex yet, I was very young. After it started to happen, I very much enjoyed it! I was not convinced that it was real. I knew that it was happening, but my brain wouldn't accept it. So I wrote it off as a good dream! I kept seeing things through out my life that led me to believe that I can't keep writing this off as a dream. I'd like to think that I'm a pretty practical person, I analyze things until I'm sure I've got a viable answer. What is happening to me is not logical, Science doesn't really have a place yet for what I'm experiencing??? ( not yet ) Maybe It's not suppose to be figured out???
Thank -u- for u'r honesty & taking the time to write me back I do appreciate it. Hope all works out for u'r sister. God bless you & yours, Jamie
Hey, just wanted to add that i know quite a few people who hear bells just before they channel a spirit. I think the vibration of bells is important in raising energy for some reason... any thoughts?
Mikeman
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Originally posted by mikeman
Hey, just wanted to add that i know quite a few people who hear bells just before they channel a spirit. I think the vibration of bells is important in raising energy for some reason... any thoughts?
Mikeman
Life is like a bowl of cherry's- We all take time to develop!!![:P]
Mikeman,
Does channeling a spirit mean, raising the dead so -o- speak or calling on a certain spirit??? I was trying to call Jesus as I started my OBE.?.
Ya know I think something fish's going on here. ( maybe I'm giving too much credit to low vibes? )
Ok here a few months ago I awoke from dead sleep, looked right @ a large iridescent blue door like image. I'm not sure if I was in an OBE, I have them so often. I do think I just blinked & it was gone, I remember trying to write it off as my eye's are trying to adjust, usually I just wake up again if it's an OBE, @ night no adjustment neededanyway , right?
Iridescent blue must mean something with me? While in FL. @ 17 yrs old I saw a transparent iridescent blue human like thing. It's feet were huge, I could see its jaw bone. The way it ran, so swift like a drip of water on the shower wall. It was like I caught it jumping through dimension's! ( totally cool!!! ).
Why, How could channeling happen during an OBE? Is that normal, should I be worried??? Complexette/ Jamie
Hi Jamie,
quote,
"The feeling of being very small in a large body, that's the best way I can think of to describe it."
The way I described it to myself was like being something huge squished into and confined in the body. The energy you felt as a 12 year old is normal. When having this amazing experience out of body, many people initially feel this energy rush as a hunger, or as a sexual urge and sometimes as a burning need to Know.
I loved the tests you devised to check if the OBE's were real, so simple and they worked so well for you.
"I feel bad 'cause I don't feel that I accomplished what he brought me up there for, I felt that I judged myself. Any thoughts on that???"
Please don't punish yourself for that perception. What happened, happened as it should. You learned, you received healings......they can take time to manifest when they are deep ! Perhaps the perception of not accomplishing is simply an internal issue that is in the process of being healed, albeit slowly.
"I don't know if I'm suppose to share what I know, I fear that I'd be teaching people something their not suppose to know."
If you feel driven from within to share then do it. As a sharing it is no longer 'a teaching', those who hear and read it, who are meant, will. Even if it only plants a tiny seed, then the job is done.
"Sometimes it's hard to tell when I'm awake or still in the OBE. Like I'll think my hands -n- legs are moving around I seem to levitate, it's actually my spiritual one's. I'll keep waking up. I have a hard time just going with the flow. I feel like I have to defend myself?.!"
Maybe there are a lot of different states that we can be in that exist between obe and dream. Feeling yourself floating a little from the body is also very normal, just most people do not wake up. It's a little weird at first when being aware of the transitioning of your awareness out of the physical, sometimes we feel the being in two places at once feeling. Sometimes our inner human fears cause us to feel as if we are losing 'control', so we fight it feeling like we need to defend against it.
I have no insights into the experience of your husbands hands etc. Although I do very much think you will find an answer to that by remembering the Feeling of that experience. You can then follow that feeling by breathing it in deeply. It gets a little scary for a lot of people about now, but if you let the feeling come you will connect with it's meaning to you. Good luck.
Love Always. [:)]
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Originally posted by Tayesin
Hi Jamie,
quote,
"The feeling of being very small in a large body, that's the best way I can think of to describe it."
The way I described it to myself was like being something huge squished into and confined in the body. The energy you felt as a 12 year old is normal. When having this amazing experience out of body, many people initially feel this energy rush as a hunger, or as a sexual urge and sometimes as a burning need to Know.
I loved the tests you devised to check if the OBE's were real, so simple and they worked so well for you.
"I feel bad 'cause I don't feel that I accomplished what he brought me up there for, I felt that I judged myself. Any thoughts on that???"
Please don't punish yourself for that perception. What happened, happened as it should. You learned, you received healings......they can take time to manifest when they are deep ! Perhaps the perception of not accomplishing is simply an internal issue that is in the process of being healed, albeit slowly.
"I don't know if I'm suppose to share what I know, I fear that I'd be teaching people something their not suppose to know."
If you feel driven from within to share then do it. As a sharing it is no longer 'a teaching', those who hear and read it, who are meant, will. Even if it only plants a tiny seed, then the job is done.
"Sometimes it's hard to tell when I'm awake or still in the OBE. Like I'll think my hands -n- legs are moving around I seem to levitate, it's actually my spiritual one's. I'll keep waking up. I have a hard time just going with the flow. I feel like I have to defend myself?.!"
Maybe there are a lot of different states that we can be in that exist between obe and dream. Feeling yourself floating a little from the body is also very normal, just most people do not wake up. It's a little weird at first when being aware of the transitioning of your awareness out of the physical, sometimes we feel the being in two places at once feeling. Sometimes our inner human fears cause us to feel as if we are losing 'control', so we fight it feeling like we need to defend against it.
I have no insights into the experience of your husbands hands etc. Although I do very much think you will find an answer to that by remembering the Feeling of that experience. You can then follow that feeling by breathing it in deeply. It gets a little scary for a lot of people about now, but if you let the feeling come you will connect with it's meaning to you. Good luck.
Love Always. [:)]
Love others like -u- love thyself [:)][;)]
Tayesin,
Thank -u- for taking the time to respond with care!!!
Just to let -u- know the feeling of being so small in a very large body, was when I was 4yrs old with that fever. I think that's when I was being healed??? My energy was being conserved? My soul was working on the sick part of my body? I think that's what that feeling was 'bout, I do get that feeling from time -2- time, awake???
Also another thing I've tried to preform. Is to look @ the clock in my room, I always forget what time it was when I looked in my OBE ( every minute counts ).
I've also seen my spiritual arm's -n- legs , half in & half out of my body, but I see through the OBE state. Kinda interesting!
Your words of inspiration are very comforting. I do need to learn to accept that things happen as they should, my life would probably be so much easier if I could accept that!!! I do punish my self (that doesn't sound right ) If I make a mistake I dwell on it & beat myself up ( mentaly ) so that I never make the same mistake again!!!
What did -u- think 'bout the bell's going off & what Mikeman said 'bout that??? Is that possible??? ( see above )
The energy rush that -u- talked about is so true, that's weird that everybody experiences the vibrations. ( is there more to vibrations then sound ) The first experience with an OBE was so frightening @ 12 yrs old! The lucid dream I had is what triggered the experience. It felt like wind rushing through every open cavity in my body, eyes, ears, nose! The vibration's were penetrating every fiber of my being! I herd a loud whistle and a mans voice screaming! Then I saw my self lying in my bed, the most peaceful feeling I had ever had. I remember thinking, ( which surprised me that I could think! ) that I am so beautiful, which was the first of that thought!!!
The next night it happened again, My OBE's seemed to be triggered from fear? In the dream I was about to pinch my finger in a closet door. The transition started, feeling tingly all over, my head was like a train was going through it! ( wind rushing through my ears HA,HA ) I couldn't move I'd shake, I knew I was shaking my body, but my body wouldn't reply! It would & does happen 10 or more times a night. I have gone places. Most of the time I don't go anywhere I just levitate. I'm scared I'll get possessed???[:O] If I'm not already.!? ( I don't really think I'm possessed )[:D] but I am worried 'bout it.
Thankz so much, Complexette/ Jamie
Hello Complexette,
Just by your astal name you seem to know yourself well jamie??,
i'm not sure if you have read my first post on lucid dreaming, to have a domain in which we can express these inner experinces is a very comfating feeling.
i've just got back from a meal with some japanease customers.They seem to work more on there blood line than the stars he said 95% of us know our blood type my boss said it's probably the opposite in england whats your star sign is more the the way.
I then mentioned a dream and was looked at and felt alien even before i atttempted to extrapolate, so i refused and we laughed it away.
There is always a natural tendency to ignore messages from the mystery machine epescialy when conversing with restrictive minds(nasty of me) but the level that we are discussing is for people who have a much larger angle of acceptance(excuse my use of optics).
Hope all is well and wondered if you had checked my previous posts on my profile and had any input,belive me the dream of the Bee and the dolphin was mind shifting for me(what about the reply to "has anybody read this".Maybe greedy of me but you seem a clued up individual, and it might give me thoughts or projections in the future that i can post on.
the sound before the symbol
charles
p.s M.B.E stands for Member of the British Empire(historical but they are still handed out anually)
O.B.E i'm to lazy to find out what the O stands for hpoefully nothing.
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Originally posted by charlamarstrus
Hello Complexette,
Just by your astal name you seem to know yourself well jamie??,
i'm not sure if you have read my first post on lucid dreaming, to have a domain in which we can express these inner experinces is a very comfating feeling.
i've just got back from a meal with some japanease customers.They seem to work more on there blood line than the stars he said 95% of us know our blood type my boss said it's probably the opposite in england whats your star sign is more the the way.
I then mentioned a dream and was looked at and felt alien even before i atttempted to extrapolate, so i refused and we laughed it away.
There is always a natural tendency to ignore messages from the mystery machine epescialy when conversing with restrictive minds(nasty of me) but the level that we are discussing is for people who have a much larger angle of acceptance(excuse my use of optics).
Hope all is well and wondered if you had checked my previous posts on my profile and had any input,belive me the dream of the Bee and the dolphin was mind shifting for me(what about the reply to "has anybody read this".Maybe greedy of me but you seem a clued up individual, and it might give me thoughts or projections in the future that i can post on.
the sound before the symbol
charles
p.s M.B.E stands for Member of the British Empire(historical but they are still handed out anually)
O.B.E i'm to lazy to find out what the O stands for hpoefully nothing.
I know I'm actually relieved to have a site like this @ my fingertip's. There's so many things I've wondered over the years. When I first started to experience OBE's, there wasn't information on the subject available @ the time. Then when it was available I wanted to develop my original ability's! I wouldn't read anything on the matter. I may have gained sum originality that way but I don't know an awful lot 'bout the subject, other than what I've experienced or analyzed. I know 'bout physical aspects I had to rule out sleep disorder's.
My version of Lucid dreaming is -u- see in greater depth, color, touch is felt & more sensitive, It might be located on the right side of the brain. R-u- left handed?!? I liked u'r little post of N.L.P -u- really do have to weigh every circumstance in. I do enjoy trying to figure people out, before they tell me though!
I have a few questions for -u-???
What makes -u- think u've been lucid dreaming for a few years?
Are -u- completing things in u'r cognitive day??? For example; if -u- were a Lawyer, had a disturbing case. -U- gave it to u'r secretary to finish the work! U would not be completing this situation till a later date, u would not get the satisfaction of finished results, no instant gratification??? When -u- get into the habit of not completing u'r thought's they will Myst over into u'r subconscious. Dreams -r-u'r subconscious , dont'a know.So could it be disturbing u'r sleep? Could be the onset of u'r not being able to sleep? ( I just learned that Sleep Paralysis is one of the onsets to OBE's.!?) Another example ( I'm not saying u have any of these things ) A person that has O.C.D. Obsessive Compulsive Disorder Can't stop thinking they didn't turn the stove off, so they keep checking. By the time they get to sleep, they've had no time to relax their brain. ( so could the brain be trying to catch up? )
Can -u- describe u'r charging / tunneling?
What do the energy's look like?
Things to think 'bout??? Do -u- feel grounded in u'r life?
Also check out Astral images, 1/4 of the pg down. There -r- u'r dolphin's swimming in space!?? Maybe Check out sum of his post's???
P.S. OBE is Out'a Body Experience
Take Care, I'll be back Monday, Complexette/ Jamie [;)]
About the astral sex thing, the tricky question is: with "what" do you have sex with?
Complexette,
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Originally posted by Complexette
"Why, How could channeling happen during an OBE? Is that normal, should I be worried???" Complexette/ Jamie
I believe it comes in different forms for every person. My aunt is woken up in the middle of the night by spirits, and her hand automatically writes pages of script. She is a doctor and many of her pacients that have passed away come through to her. Even people she does not know come through with messages for loved ones. During OBE I recon 'channeling' is likely to occur...to even be in the OBE state your energy must be higher than usual. The higher your energy the closer you become to having the energy level of a spirit being. If spirits can lower their energy level slightly it allows us to communicate with them. I think its all very natural and is nothing to be afraid of! If it happens then it is meant to, and do your best to try and learn from the experience! enjoy it [:D]
Have you heard of 'Conversations with God'? It is a text by Neale Walsche. It is a dialogue between a channel (Walsche) and God. Check it out![:)]
Hi Complexette,
"I do need to learn to accept that things happen as they should, my life would probably be so much easier if I could accept that!!! I do punish my self (that doesn't sound right ) If I make a mistake I dwell on it & beat myself up ( mentaly ) so that I never make the same mistake again!!!"
I still do too. Letting go might be one of the hardest things to suceed at.
"What did -u- think 'bout the bell's going off & what Mikeman said 'bout that??? Is that possible???"
It's very interesting. In 1975 a group I was with heard bells at an old cemetery, at midnight would you believe. We knew there were no churches anywhere nearby to make the sounds. Then a friend of our's fell to the ground kicking and growling at us !! Won't continue with that story, but, we heard the bells. I saw little lights beyond the hedges, but that's another story. LOL.
" My OBE's seemed to be triggered from fear? In the dream I was about to pinch my finger in a closet door. The transition started.."
Maybe you needed to use an escape mechanism. Something that insures you might not have to feel the 'imagined' pain? We do it during core issue removals, so I see no reason why we wouldn't use it as other triggers too.
" Most of the time I don't go anywhere I just levitate. I'm scared I'll get possessed??? If I'm not already.!? ( I don't really think I'm possessed ) but I am worried 'bout it."
While you are aware that you are Out, remember to protect yourself...see it in your mind's eye as a shield around you and the body. You will be fine. Have you thought about what you would dearly like to see in the Astral ? You could keep that thought in mind before sleep, and maybe you will choose to go and see for yourself. I hope so.
About the only thing I have found that can prevent you from going anywhere you choose, is your belief about it. There is an old saying, "Go prepared"....meaning two things. That you have cleared and protected with Light. And, that you have no expectations other than your intent. This way you will see clearly and understand easier. And, have some fun with it, it's not meant to be serious all the time.
Love Always.[:)]
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Originally posted by mikeman
Complexette,
quote:
Originally posted by Complexette
"Why, How could channeling happen during an OBE? Is that normal, should I be worried???" Complexette/ Jamie
I believe it comes in different forms for every person. My aunt is woken up in the middle of the night by spirits, and her hand automatically writes pages of script. She is a doctor and many of her pacients that have passed away come through to her. Even people she does not know come through with messages for loved ones. During OBE I recon 'channeling' is likely to occur...to even be in the OBE state your energy must be higher than usual. The higher your energy the closer you become to having the energy level of a spirit being. If spirits can lower their energy level slightly it allows us to communicate with them. I think its all very natural and is nothing to be afraid of! If it happens then it is meant to, and do your best to try and learn from the experience! enjoy it [:D]
Have you heard of 'Conversations with God'? It is a text by Neale Walsche. It is a dialogue between a channel (Walsche) and God. Check it out![:)]
Mikeman,
So does u'r aunt then tell her client's 'bout the writings? That would be hard to accept something just taking over ones hand like that. Hers would be IBE'S then huh![:)] Thank -u- for u'r suggestion's
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Originally posted by mikeman
Complexette,
quote:
Originally posted by Complexette
"Why, How could channeling happen during an OBE? Is that normal, should I be worried???" Complexette/ Jamie
I believe it comes in different forms for every person. My aunt is woken up in the middle of the night by spirits, and her hand automatically writes pages of script. She is a doctor and many of her pacients that have passed away come through to her. Even people she does not know come through with messages for loved ones. During OBE I recon 'channeling' is likely to occur...to even be in the OBE state your energy must be higher than usual. The higher your energy the closer you become to having the energy level of a spirit being. If spirits can lower their energy level slightly it allows us to communicate with them. I think its all very natural and is nothing to be afraid of! If it happens then it is meant to, and do your best to try and learn from the experience! enjoy it [:D]
Have you heard of 'Conversations with God'? It is a text by Neale Walsche. It is a dialogue between a channel (Walsche) and God. Check it out![:)]
Mikeman,
So does u'r aunt then tell her client's 'bout the writings? That would be hard to accept something just taking over ones hand like that. Hers would be IBE'S then huh![:)] Thank -u- for u'r suggestion's
Take Care, Comp[;)]
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Originally posted by Tayesin
Hi Complexette,
"I do need to learn to accept that things happen as they should, my life would probably be so much easier if I could accept that!!! I do punish my self (that doesn't sound right ) If I make a mistake I dwell on it & beat myself up ( mentaly ) so that I never make the same mistake again!!!"
I still do too. Letting go might be one of the hardest things to suceed at.
"What did -u- think 'bout the bell's going off & what Mikeman said 'bout that??? Is that possible???"
It's very interesting. In 1975 a group I was with heard bells at an old cemetery, at midnight would you believe. We knew there were no churches anywhere nearby to make the sounds. Then a friend of our's fell to the ground kicking and growling at us !! Won't continue with that story, but, we heard the bells. I saw little lights beyond the hedges, but that's another story. LOL.
" My OBE's seemed to be triggered from fear? In the dream I was about to pinch my finger in a closet door. The transition started.."
Maybe you needed to use an escape mechanism. Something that insures you might not have to feel the 'imagined' pain? We do it during core issue removals, so I see no reason why we wouldn't use it as other triggers too.
" Most of the time I don't go anywhere I just levitate. I'm scared I'll get possessed??? If I'm not already.!? ( I don't really think I'm possessed ) but I am worried 'bout it."
While you are aware that you are Out, remember to protect yourself...see it in your mind's eye as a shield around you and the body. You will be fine. Have you thought about what you would dearly like to see in the Astral ? You could keep that thought in mind before sleep, and maybe you will choose to go and see for yourself. I hope so.
About the only thing I have found that can prevent you from going anywhere you choose, is your belief about it. There is an old saying, "Go prepared"....meaning two things. That you have cleared and protected with Light. And, that you have no expectations other than your intent. This way you will see clearly and understand easier. And, have some fun with it, it's not meant to be serious all the time.
Love Always.[:)]
Tayesin,
What are Core Issue Removals???
Maybe OBE's kinda like driving somewhere. Often times I don't know the street sign's, but I know how to get there? ( I don't know what -u- mean by; remember to project yourself ? ) I do understand the mindz eye protection though!!!
" And, that you have no expectations other than your intent. This way you will see clearly and understand easier."
Any ideas on how to see better would be helpful! Thank you for u'r Love & Guidance, Comp [;)]
Hi,
Core issue removals is when we seek the fears inside our feelings, feel the things you did not want to feel, take the image that comes to our mind when feeling it and discard it intentionally. It is a difficult healing to experience intentionally. And a very effective way to Heal.
You are correct in the knowing where to go. It's an auto-pilot thing, if we let it happen. I used to worry about how to find specific things when I was exploring or working on behalf of others. It just happened in the end, when I gave up worrying over it. Funny about that.
Mikeman,
A couple of years ago I read of a famous Australian 50's&60's radio and tv host, Jack Davey, who was working to learn about automatic writing for his shows when he and his closest assistants decided to try it for themselves. The book documented many conversations over twenty years, even years after Jack's death the two assistants continued to have regular communications with him and others seeking to pass a message on.
Love Always.[:)]
Far out, just wrote a reply that came out all screwed up! oh well...
Anyway complexette...Yeah it would be pretty crazy to have your hand flying around! I think she is pretty used to it now though, she has had over 100 visits to day. Most of the visits aim to teach her how to heal others. The spirits tell her that they came to her because she is a doctor and is therefore influential, respected. Also, she has the correct energy level to be open to it. As for weather she tells her clients that she has been taught to heal through autowriting or not im not sure! Ill have to find out more.
An interesting aside: I gained confirmation of OBEs and Channeling through my aunts autowriting...
My grandfather recently passed away. Within a few days, i recieved messages from him during meditation and partially during OBEs. My aunt was unaware of my experiences. A couple days later she channeled my grandfather also (through autowriting). In the text that she wrote, he mentions and confirms the experiences I had! Amazing
Tayesin, that sounds really interesting, are the texts from the visitations available? Its hard to believe there are so many skeptics on topics like this when there is so much evidence!
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Originally posted by Tayesin
Hi,
Core issue removals is when we seek the fears inside our feelings, feel the things you did not want to feel, take the image that comes to our mind when feeling it and discard it intentionally. It is a difficult healing to experience intentionally. And a very effective way to Heal.
You are correct in the knowing where to go. It's an auto-pilot thing, if we let it happen. I used to worry about how to find specific things when I was exploring or working on behalf of others. It just happened in the end, when I gave up worrying over it. Funny about that.
Mikeman,
A couple of years ago I read of a famous Australian 50's&60's radio and tv host, Jack Davey, who was working to learn about automatic writing for his shows when he and his closest assistants decided to try it for themselves. The book documented many conversations over twenty years, even years after Jack's death the two assistants continued to have regular communications with him and others seeking to pass a message on.
Love Always.[:)]
Do we judge a Religion, based on the actions of its people???
Major Tom, Tayesin, Mikeman & all others .!.
Thank -u- all for u'r interest.!!
Tayesin, I'd like to learn more 'bout core issue removals. Is it more a physiological issue? As I said I know I need to learn to accept the cards I've been dealt.
Do -u- Remote View? If so do -u- mind my asking who & with what, conjures up the low vibes?
Jacks writings, could -u- give me a link to that?[:)][;)]
Mikeman, Sorry 'bout u'r Grandfather. It's simply amazing that -u- can keep in touch with him, thru assertion of two mindz. ( Aunts & u'rs ) very cool! Do let me know the answer to my question? -Does she tell her client's? It would be appreciated. If -u- think of it.!?[;)]
MajorTom,
You must know I like to ponder & ask lotz'a questions???[:)]
As far as sexually frustrated,I appreciate u'r humor. I think it was more of a brain pattern. Once I learned how, I didn't want to stop, till I had a reason...
I don't feel too guilty! I just don't like the spirituality ( reality) check I gave myself, when I found out what plane I had put myself on.[:(]
If I'd known that it would've put me on a lower astral plane. I wouldn't have done it.I also would've understood why I don't feel like I was accomplishing all that I could do in my life! Until recently ( this forum ) I thought ( I was gifted ) but mostly that something was wrong with me.
I can't help but wonder if someone or thing has purposely put me in that vibration, in fear that I would succeed. Not just myself, everyone's most successful attribute. ( Dumbing Down Society [}:)])
I could take this into a religious discussion, I think that's best left unsaid. For now!
See when u'r spirit has low vibration, it seeps in to u'r physical world & affects it there also. Please don't think I'm being cocky. I can't tell -u- how many times people have given me opportunity. And I said No! Because I didn't want to be put on a pedestal. So in other wordz, I thought, prayed, lived, as I could move mountains. Then on my way to the top, I'd fall thinking I couldn't, or something would happen to eject me from that position??? My fault, yes because of my decisions. I can't be blamed for what I didn't know though.( So reaching,,, ) sort of a Louis Pasteur, invisible enemy[xx(] "The Value Of Believing In Yourself"??? Things that make ya go hummmmmm.!? Whatcha all think???
TTFN, Comp[;)]
Hi,
Complexette you asked, "Do we judge a Religion, based on the actions of its people???" The short answer would be Yes, because the actions show how that belief system is operating within human groups.
"I'd like to learn more 'bout core issue removals. Is it more a physiological issue?" It's an effective tool for removing our deepest fear-based issues, they are the ones we run to sabotage ourselves and prevent ourselves from fully succeeding.
"I can't help but wonder if someone or thing has purposely put me in that vibration, in fear that I would succeed." Yes, you did. Most of us people do. Our greatest fear is not failure, it is Success.
"Do -u- Remote View?" I played with it for a while. Now I send out my focused attention like that only to touch people who I want to call me or to see how a person I am concerned about is doing.
"See when u'r spirit has low vibration, it seeps in to u'r physical world & affects it there also." Being physical in the physical world creates the low vibration, as we disconnect ourselves from the energy flow we have as Spirit. An easy remedy to this is opening up to the Light a couple of times a day, particularly if you are feeling drained. You can read about how in my Homepage if you'd like by clicking on the Homepage link at the top of this post.
I can't seem to remember the name of the book about Jack Davey's story. Next time I am in town I will check it at the library.
Love Always.[:)]
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Originally posted by Tayesin
Hi,
Complexette you asked, "Do we judge a Religion, based on the actions of its people???" The short answer would be Yes, because the actions show how that belief system is operating within human groups.
"I'd like to learn more 'bout core issue removals. Is it more a physiological issue?" It's an effective tool for removing our deepest fear-based issues, they are the ones we run to sabotage ourselves and prevent ourselves from fully succeeding.
"I can't help but wonder if someone or thing has purposely put me in that vibration, in fear that I would succeed." Yes, you did. Most of us people do. Our greatest fear is not failure, it is Success.
"Do -u- Remote View?" I played with it for a while. Now I send out my focused attention like that only to touch people who I want to call me or to see how a person I am concerned about is doing.
"See when u'r spirit has low vibration, it seeps in to u'r physical world & affects it there also." Being physical in the physical world creates the low vibration, as we disconnect ourselves from the energy flow we have as Spirit. An easy remedy to this is opening up to the Light a couple of times a day, particularly if you are feeling drained. You can read about how in my Homepage if you'd like by clicking on the Homepage link at the top of this post.
I can't seem to remember the name of the book about Jack Davey's story. Next time I am in town I will check it at the library.
Love Always.[:)]
Tayesin,
Sorry it took me so long to get back to -u-!!! I appreciate all of u'r suggestion's -n- help on the matter.
My thought on asking that question:
Do we judge a Religion, based on the actions of its people???" The short answer would be Yes, because the actions show how that belief system is operating within human groups.
With how much crime that goes on in America, And the way people would act when they think they won't get caught.!. Just makes me take a look from the outside, Sad..:(
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" Being physical in the physical world creates the low vibration, as we disconnect ourselves from the energy flow we have as Spirit.
So is that why low vibrational being's ( demon's ) may be seen more often than Angle's? It could be as difficult for angel's to lower their vibration, as it is for us to bring ours up, into the higher dimension's.
I'll do some checking on Jack Davey also... If -u- find out before me, be sure to say something!!! Thank-z- again,,, Comp[;)]
Hi All,
I've shortened this up a bit, I realized I was confusing people with too much information.
I'd like to see what -u- make of this???
Before I tell -u- all this I should explain a few things. I'm 27 years old. When I was 4 yrs old I had a very high fever. I do recall a few dreams while in the oxygen tent, and the feeling as I was being healed. The feeling of being very small in a large body, that's the best way I can think of to describe it.!? As a young child I'd roll pencil's on the table, make my door move, by sitting in front of it and pulling it open -n- close without touching it, ya know kid stuff!?? Kind of a strange kid I was!!![:)]
My mother said I was 9 I think I was more like 12 years old when I had my first OBE, that I remember well enough to talk 'bout? I saw myself lying on my bed. Soon there after; in the OBE I started to get stimulated, ya know stimulated! I thought that was aw some, after all I didn't think it could really happen, just my imagination! That way I didn't ever have to loose my virginity!!! ( don't all little girls want to keep their virginity as long as possible!!!)
I'm married now & do not allow this to happen, I just strugle to wake myself up!!! I know that it is very real, I've preformed a few minor test's, to convince myself of it. In the OBE I'd gently bite the palm of my hand, enough so that it would be wet when I awoke, My palm was not wet. So I know I bit it, yet my hand was not wet! That's when I realized that there actually were different dimension's! Needles to say I now believe. The different realm's are incredible, and over whelming @ the same time. It's happened too long & too often to dissmis it...
'bout a year ago I had a OBE, it wasn't like all the others.
I was in heaven -2- the left of me was a desk with a large man behind it. He said my name; Jamie "The Jamie." I said that's me!!! I think he said this to everyone to let them know that they are individually important??? I met with Jesus as he was walking toward me, He placed his hand on my back ( The LOVE I felt was radiating, more love than I'd ever known, even after having a child) As I said this to him; God the love you have! He led me to a room! I remember getting on my knees, saying this world has tainted me. ( which I don't blame others for my issues) I don't recall God saying anything to me, I saw a large garage door open, as the flames abolished my sins.?! I feel bad 'cause I don't feel that I accomplished what he brought me up there for, I felt that I judged myself. Any thoughts on that???
I don't know if I'm suppose to share what I know, I fear that I'd be teaching people something their not suppose to know. By telling my 2nd dream; when I saw myself lying there in my bed. @ age 9 or 12?) I've told people that dream before, I've had several people come to me & tell me they experienced the same thing???
When I was a child and would say my prayers, it would seem to happen more. I don't know if those lower energy forms -r- trying to trick me or what??? Back to the beginning of this letter. As I was trying to tap into my own resource's for strength. This is what happened night before last. ( I never really know when I'll have an OBE. ) As I realized I was starting to go into the OBE I thought of seeing Jesus, I said his name over -n- over I started seeing black, like someone was pulling the wool over my eyes. Then the OBE continued in my bed room. My hands were folded on my chest. I saw my husbands hand approach me and stimulated me. Before that I'm not sure if I was being stimulated.?? But the weird part was I herd A bell go off ( my birds do have a bell, however this bell didn't sound like theirs, nor do they ring it in the middle of the night!) Shortly after the bell went off, I herd a baby cry. My thoughts as this was going on. From the bell, This doesn't seem right, I don't think this is what Jesus would do! ( however when something abnormal happens to someone, one starts to think anything could be possible! within reason ) I started to pull out when I herd the bell. Then I saw my husbands hand, and accepted it, I herd a baby cry??? ( My child is 4, he does not cry like a new born baby! ) Then I woke up went to check on my son, sound asleep.!? Sometimes it's hard to tell when I'm awake or still in the OBE. Like I'll think my hands -n- legs are moving around I seem to levitate, it's actually my spiritual one's. I'll keep waking up. I have a hard time just going with the flow. I feel like I have to defend myself?.!
I've talked to my minister, family, friends, I just don't know what to think 'bout the sexual part??? I stopped allowing it after I was married, so 5 yrs! Do -u- all think I'd be cheating on my husband if I went through with it? It's as real as the physical intimacy!!!
[;)]Thankz, Complexette / Jamie