So close....! :(

[Somnambulist]

Hi, I'm from Germany and I am new to the Pulse Very nice Community btw.

So....I have a problem. And I don't know how to solve it.

First of all, I got/get it to the vibrations...or sometimes just to this strange awareness without vibrations.
And when I think/feel it's time to seperate, this huge selection of techniques simply overflow my mind....
So I don't know how to seperate despite the fact that I know how...

I alway's read about "simply stand up, like with your physical body, but without muscles". But everytime I try to do so, I sit up physically

Maybe its becaus I'm to exited when the vibrations or the awareness happen...
Maybe my physical body produces to much adrenalin and wakes himself up... I simply don't know...

I also tried the "lifting up" methode...but if I do so, I cramp myself when the feelings of falling kicking in.

Could it be that I just need more experience, so I can stay cool when strange things happen?

Do you guys have some tips? It's killing me, to know there is more, without experience it.

[jkjk8991]

Hey man, welcome to the forum, and good to hear from another AP'er. Anyways, the first few times I tried to AP I found myself in the same situation as you. I just couldn't exit and sort of layed in this blackness with vibrations. Couple tips, firstly, learn to phase to the astral from lucid dreams, it could turn lucid dreams into even better experiences. The method I've had most success with for me with simply floating out, it sort of came natural. I was just lying in bed, I felt the vibrations and this loud noise but I just relaxed through it, and suddenly felt my legs beginning to float. I sort of floated them back down, and then floated my whole body out equally. It can be hard to imagine you're floating, but its worked the best for me. I'd strongly recommend reading Ryan_'s eBook which can be found at the top of this page.  http://unlimitedboundaries.ca/xanths-phasing-primer/
It's helped me out a ton in terms of relaxing and releasing. Another tip is to try not to focus on your physical body, or the physical reality at all. The more you concentrate on the vibrations isn't neccessarily a good thing in my experience. Try and sort of ignore them, just think to yourself, this is great, and relax deeper. Soon after you should either get a sense that it is time to exit, or might begin to start seeing slightly through your eyelids or something of this sort. Possibly even just look into the abyss of your eyelids, see the depth to it, without moving your eyes watch with your peripherals the colors swirling and changing. I did this once and saw a tiny blue dot grow and grow until it became the sky. All and all just know whatever happens it will be good, and the more and more practice you get the better and easier these things will come to you. Best of luck!

[Somnambulist]

Heyhey!

Big thanks for your reply
I'm so glad to read that I am not the only one who have/had some issues at the beginning

I thought about trying it over lucid dreams...but i'd never had one, so i thougt to concentrate more on direct techniques.

Anyway....I think I should try to manage me into a lucid dream...and try it that way...

Or the casual upfloating method you told me....

So thank you für your guidance!

[SirMike]

What are the vibrations like, because I don't know if I'm getting to it -_-

[Xanth]

Don't worry about the vibrations.  In fact, you might *NEVER* get them.  What are you gonna do then? 
Vibrations are never a goal.

[javedjee90]

So, just choose it if you like it.

[astraladdict]

I prefer the Rope Method, Simply feel as if you are climbing a rope, up, up, and away! Just work on relaxation. Master that, master OBE.

~astraladdict

[Zarklon]

I posted this in another thread but I also suggest this to you.

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You sound like you are having the same problems as me. I used to have OBEs fairly regularly when I was in highschool sitting in a schooldesk to project..but even then I had trouble having one in my bed. I now practice in a sitting position to avoid the going asleep part... most of the time O_0.  I'm always worried about falling out of the chair or that one of my feet I have propped up would fall off and wake me up .. or that I'de hit the ground if I actually fell out the chair.. What happens is my mind will try to make it feel like one of the other happens.  (I try to focus more on worrying that my feet will fall off the stool I have them propped up on) My mind sort of makes it happen if I'm in that state you are talking about .. where you might feel vibes and then they go away and your in just a totally relaxed state.. Its my way of applying astral pressure to my body (worry the feel will fall) and once they start feeling like they are falling , you should be in the mind awake/body asleep state. Theres no doubt about it.. Keep in mind .. you may try to be repositioning them but they are not moving at all.. and a lot of times if it feels like I'm falling out my chair , I'm really not.. I've had to let myself hit the astral floor and started floating before my nose hit once.. .. I dont prefer to practice this method for obvious reasons lol..  I hope this helps as one thing to try.  Some people do the arm up method.. look that one up.  I get frustrated when falling asleep so I tend do have some sort of safety net .. alarms help .. sleep deprivation is a pretty easy way to have an accidental OBEsometimes  .. but not healthy O_0..    Good luck , if I think of anything else I'll let ya know Smiley 
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Another thing that works when you get to that "strange awareness without vibrations" state is to simply imagine you fell asleep on a rocking chair .. or bed.. or maybe waterbed .. and that you ever so slightly feel the structure rocking or swaying.  It may very well begin to feel more and more real and that is all you need to create the pressure on your astral body to sort of slide or roll out. I find it hard to do the roll out method cause I can't figure out how to do it without waking my body up or something..  If I can fool myself into thinking I'm falling off the bed (hang one leg off?)  maybe you can use that sense of "Oh crap .. maybe I will fall out"  to propel you on it's own.  Just make sure you arent in any real danger of falling... or put yourself there as safely as you can and that will just help even more. This is why I sit up and try to go OBE.. I'm always worried my body will relax a certain way and I wont notice it and I'll just fall out the chair.. What I've found is that I'm never really slipping off the chair .. each time I fix myself , I'm already back in the original position..  Letting yourself fall that way is fun and scary at the same time hehe. I've fell right out to the floor and my nose almost touched but I just kinda hovered over the ground.. quite an interesting way to go OBE I must say. Just be careful lol..  Good luck!  Just know, you are not alone with that roadblock.  I still deal with it each time I project.. I feel like all of a sudden I'm light and floaty but I'm still very much in my body.. sometimes the vibrations come and go while I'm in this state and I can't do anything but feel them and they pass leaving me there at square one.