So tell me what ya think, am I close?

[okoklo]

Well last night I made it further than I ever did, though I still never got out it felt a lot stonger than ever before.  I did what I normally do, layed down in bed, count up to 20 and back down slowly with doing breathing techniques and stuff.  Then my body went numb and started to feel light like it always does.  This time though, after this point my body felt increadibly fuzzy and I couldn't tell where my body parts were.  It was strange, my left side felt like my right and my right side felt like it was on my left, it was so backwards and opposite.  I thought I was there but then something destracted me and it was all gone.     So now I hope that this feeling will be added to my nightly rountine of trying to AP and then maybe get even further and even get out maybe soon.

So tell me what ya think, am I close? 

[Selski]

Hi okoklo

I wrote a reply in another thread along a similar line just a few minutes ago, so I'm going to paste it here and slightly edit it in red where it is more pertinent to you.

In my opinion, you are going about it in the right way by learning to relax, but from what you are saying it sounds like you need to learn to relax a whole lot further.

When you reach mind awake, body asleep (MABA), you will have no doubt whatsoever that you are "there".  It is an amazing feeling.  You feel like you are your mind only and that you are housed in your physical body.  Sometimes you may sway a little, as if you are made of liquid and then you realise that although you are still in your physical body, you are no longer trapped in it, and you will be able to leave it.

It sounds like you are doing well, by still being awake when you don't know where your body parts are - it's one "strange" sensation that I really enjoy and I know that I'm quite relaxed if I get here without falling asleep.

Strangely enough, learning to relax is hard work!  I don't mean you need to strain at relaxing - far from it - but what I do mean is it takes a long time and a lot of effort to get to the point where you can leave your body - without falling asleep. 

Falling asleep is natural and normal, even now I more often than not fall asleep.  However, sleep is very good for us and is therefore quite a nice side effect! 

The best time to practice relaxation is when you have naturally woken up, either first thing in the morning (if you don't have to get up for work/school) or in the middle of the night.  It tends to work if you've already had some amount of sleep.  Your body is already relaxed and snuggly and in that lazy state, and if you can keep your mind awake, you'll get success.

I would say you are coming along well, there's still some way to go and the further you learn to relax, the harder it is to stay awake, but with lots of practice, you'll soon be climbing out of your physical body.  Then it's simply a case of trying not to get too excited! 

Good luck!

Sarah

[okoklo]

Sometimes you may sway a little, as if you are made of liquid and then you realise that although you are still in your physical body, you are no longer trapped in it, and you will be able to leave it.

I actually get this feeling everytime, most of the time in the past it thought that was me being out, and everytime i would move and then realize that I'm not out yet, so now I just wait continue through it until I'll be able to naturally flow out.