Help: creepy sensation: warning or just fear?

[Veccolo]

I'd say it was your subconscious making up these things. It's quite common after all. Positive thinking helps, so next time think about love, light or whatever you consider positive.

[Nay]

Hey Kazbadan,

I put this in the FAQ, that hasn't found its way to forums yet, hope this helps.[^]

I believe Robert Bruce said it well in his book Astral Dynamics so I will quote him straight from his book.

Astral noises may be heard during the exit, with scary voices and things going bump in the night,
like chains dragging, sinister giggling and muttering, evil laughter, and nasty growling and snarling.
These intimidating sounds are a type of audio illusion; they have no substance and are therefore no threat.
They are a big distraction, though, and must be totally ignored before and during the exit. Astral noises are quite common during the exit, but always cease the moment the exit is complete. It is much more common for new projectors to hear astral noises and voices than for more seasoned projectors. I [Robert} rarely hear them these days, but used to hear them regularly during my early years of conscious projection, about every fifth projection.

Two Possible Causes for Astral Noises

Accidental: It is possible that natural sounds and voices are picked up by the heightened senses of the projecting double, as it tunes into parts of the local real-time or astral environment during the prelude to the exit. The random nature of these noises suggests they may only be heard when there is activity in the local real -time or astral area to cause them. The state of your energy body, specifically your active configuration of primary centers at the time of projection, may also play a part. It is possible that some projectors sporadically develop a type of clairaudience, the ability to hear into the real-time zone and astral dimension and to hear spirit voices and sounds, as well as the voices of other projectors. Where simple astral noises and voices are heard, and the projector is neither directly nor indirectly referred to, this is the most likely scenario.
Deliberate: Another possibility is that some astral noises are deliberately produced and telepathically aimed at projectors by low-order astral wildlife. These noises appear to be a very cleverly designed audio illusion, a sneaky distsraction designed to worry or trick a projector into aborting an imminent exit. This trickery and deceit is well in theme with the whole apparent purpose of elemental and dweller-type manifestations.

If this is indeed the real source of astral noises, then they are simply an audio scare alternative to the more visual dweller-type manifestations. Where the projector is addressed or called by name, or indirectly referred to in any other way, this is the most likely scenario.

Dealing with Astral Noises

Any and all astral noises must be totally ignored during the exit stage of an OBE. these harmless sound effects will distract and disrupt your balance and keep you from projecting if you pay any attention to them. This is especially so when it comes to being pestered or called by soeone inside your own house. No matter what you hear and no matter what is said, totally ignore it!

Nay

[Kazbadan]

thanks for the help!

lets see how i am gonna deal with my next sleep paral.!

btw, nay: have youever obed before?

i ask this because i remember something you said about never aping.

are you not interested on that? what is stucking you from obing?

(i am asking this not for knowing more about your life, instead because i want to lear others experiences related with obes. thanks)

[Nay]

quote:btw, nay: have youever obed before?

i ask this because i remember something you said about never aping.

are you not interested on that? what is stucking you from obing?

(i am asking this not for knowing more about your life, instead because i want to lear others experiences related with obes. thanks)

No..I don't think I ever said, I've never AP'ed before..

When I first came to these wonderful forums, I said I didn't know what I was doing.[]  Perhaps that is what you remember?

I have several OOBE's that I've posted about.  Let me see if I can remember some of them...  "Whooohooo" is one thread, and of course just my recent one, "the ever illusive API" , "A morning jaunt"  I know there are others, I just can't remember them.[]

For many years I was having spontaneous projections, but had no idea what in the world was happening, but for a while now I've been able to have conscious projections, so I'd say..I have OOBE's.[]

I still hear voices and whatnots, well..except for this lasts OOBE..I floated out so easily it was wild!  No voices, no sounds, no standing on my head, just me floating out, quite enjoyable.

Nay

[Kazbadan]

I am starting to getting envy for your obes: so easly and so nice....

what technique do you use?

[Kazbadan]

Tonight i had other councious sleep paralisation(sp), something that i can use to have an obe.

Now, when i had the sp i heard some strange noises (that may be just mere hallucinations) and a creep sensation telling me to do not get out. Well, it was not so really scary as that, but in that time was enough to stop me from obe (i think i am a little chicken..).

Now my first question is: is that sensation a warning or is that just my subcounscious mind making tricky things (like puting my fears in something more real)?

Second question: should i forget that fear sensation (more like a warning) and live out my body, or should i gice it attention?

Thanks for the help.