Close again...a little advice?

[alt0xFF]

Rule of thumb: anything out of the ordinary F1 is good! []
Do raise more energy and do relax more.

One can never be too much relaxed. If you have very small muscle tensions level of, say, 0.2 iotas, you can half that, and then half it further, then half it again, etc. Logarithmically speaking, there is no reachable absolute relaxation "bottom".

If you feel that at some point you cannot relax more, concentrate on the other things - breathing, energy flow, thoughts (or lack thereof), etc. After some time the relaxation floor will lower, and you will be able to deepen your relaxation again. At some point you will become aware of the vibrations (as opposed to vibrations starting), which means you're half-way there.

[WalkerInTheWoods]

I have had several experiences such as this when I was trying this method. I have never been able to use it to project, but I have been able to move my consciousness to the ceiling as you describe. I would not say it is good or bad, but it seems to indicate that you are becoming more skilled with moving your awareness away from your body. Either relax more and keep this up or try something else. Go with what feels right to you, as everyone is different and different methods work for different people. You will just have to experiment and see what works.

[OverDriven]

Hey guys! Ok...last night I layed on my bed, did a few relaxation techniques, did some energy raising, and entered trace. Then for my exit technique, I used what Robert Bruce calls "Point of reference" or something simlar. I basically imagine that I was very close to the ceiling of the room, moved my consciousness there, and literally "felt" myself there. It truly felt like I was actually there...inches away from the ceiling. Now as soon as I did this, I felt like I had shunk down to an infinatly small point. I felt so incredibly tiny, and got a little vertigo here and there. Overall, I got somewhat disoriented. However, I got no vibrations, and this was as far as the attemp went. I have heard about the "tiny consciousness" effect a little, but is this a good sign or a bad sign? Does it mean I'm getting closer? Do I need to raise more energy first, or maybe relax more? If anyone has experienced anything like this, I would love to hear about it. Thanks guys!