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Nick

Hi rcatania,

Welcome to the Astral Pulse! [:)] There are a number of members who hopefully will be able to give you some solid advice. Your situation is not one I am familiar with, so I can only offer a welcome and an invitation to explore the four corners of this forum.

There is a search engine and also a file library that may both help and interest you. Also, some of the past threads that contained excellent information are available in our Welcome to Permanent Astral Topics forum.

All the best,
"What lies before us, and what lies behind us, are tiny matters compared to what lies within us...." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Nay

Hi rcatania!

I am not quite sure what you are saying...do you mean, that you are not getting the vibrations everytime?  If that is the case, please do not let this make you believe that you are not having any projections.  

I will not go into it right now, since I am not sure where you are at..hehehe.

I await your comment..[:D]

Nay

Michael_E

Hi rcatania,

welcome aboard![:D]

I can relate to what you are describing. When i first found out about AP i was around 15 and didnt have any problems getting vibrations. Now im 24 and cant get out or get vibrations nearly as much as then.

Maybe your not as enthusiastic or excited as you were when AP'ing was new. From my experience success rates are very closely related to sincere enthusiasm.

The reason why i cant project as often as i did when i was younger is because when i was younger the projections and vibes would happen on thier own and at times against my will. This caused me great discomfort and i ended up tryingto force the vibes and exits to stop which created a conditioned abort response to them. The way i got rid of the spontaneousness of it was by dropping the topic all together for several years and even now when i am getting back into the topic i am dealing with the conditioning that i created as a teenager. So maybe you can try looking back to the very first periods of your OOBE and see if there was some kind of conditioning going on that maybe effecting you today.

If your lack of success has to do with low levels of enthusiasm try thinking back to when it was new to you and how the great wonder of it all felt. Or grab up a couple of your favorite books on the topic and dive into them with child-like wonder and imagine how wonderful it would be to be able to do it all again.
If you will it it is no dream.

-Theodore Herzl

rcatania

Thanks all for your response
I am not getting the energy or mild vibrations that I always need up to a certain level to pop out. They used to come on easily after doing some energy work I learned from Robert Monroe material.
After dong them now I just either fall a sleep or rarely get them going.

Nay I do still have some, mostly from the dream state they start now not as conscious as before just getting up and going. I feel it might be energy related. I have been reading Robert B's Astral Dynamics and I am going to focus on restoring or resetting my energy levels. I am finding his new energy system very easily coming to me.
I seem to be responding very easily to it, the energy just comes as soon as I set my intent to do it. It is like it goes on auto pilot as soon as I start. I feel the energy moving smoothly wherever I set my intent. I guess from previous experience with Monroe stuff or previous life soul knowledge either way I wish everything I did came to me this easily.
I hope to recharge my batteries so to speak and see what happens from there.
Nick
I have never had anything but positive experiences with OOBe so I do not think it is issues from a few years ago when they were coming at will, but I will meditate on it. I will let you know how it goes with these new techniques.
Thanks to all
Rob

Deva

I've come to the realization that no matter what technique you use, the best success in obeing comes when you have lots of time to relax & you have no worries.

antoon19

Hi rcatania AND WELCOM  I myself an a new by .But i f you have sleep apnea try  putting extra pillows under your neck and shoulders so that they are parralell to each other.best of luck.
                 love and Blessings.
                                       Antoon

rcatania

Thanks Deva and antoon

I guess I do not have a lot of time and do have many worries, which I agree with you Deva, when I have time and relaxed I have had more of them. I am going to focus on rebuilding my energy body and go from there.
Thanks
Rob

m87

For Christmass my wife bought me a pillow for $40 at a Sharper Image store.  It's called a Stress pillow.  I thought "what insanity a shameful waste of money"  But this small pillow is excellent in that if you put it on top of your usual pillow it seems to fill every void and supports your head and neck perfectly. I have the same apnea problem and this pillow helps immensely.

jason

rcatania-I've gone throught nearly the same thing as you have.I started experimenting w/obe's about 13 years ago.when I started out,after having massive success w/robert monroe's technique (which produced violent vibrations:o),all I had to do in order to project was to lay down and relax,and I would start to feel 'funny'.I would think to myself "ok,I'm going to project now".I was scared at first,but after about a zillion times,the fear dissipated,and now it's totally gone.

the problem is that over the years,my concious projection abilitys have been steadily declining-possible after I had a run-in w/ 'the soul eater' out of that bosch painting.my guide said "NO! don't go in there!"[:O],but that thing was just so damn wierd looking,I couldn't help it.it devoured my soul and possible much of my energy.

I HAVE been able to project after that,so there wasn't any permanent damage done,but I do need more emotional control,which I believe I have now.a buddist technique called 'mindfulness' has helped me there.

I also need to build up more energy-and practice N.E.W. and meditation,and projection reflex triggers more frequently,plus extra caution while travelling,and I'll probably be good to go.I've also asked for help from my guides.I remember one of them saying to me at the borderline state "...and you will NOT disrupt society in any way![:(!]",and "do you want to fly around the universe,or around your room?[:(!]".apparently I was misbehaving,but I don't remember at all![B)]

I guess it's all a part of the learning process.it's much morew than just learning a projection reflex trigger-it's about ethics,and learning different rules  for different universes.

I alsdo think that haveing goals and clear intentions are nesessary for sucess.my goals are to travel to other planets,and to travel to alternate universes,manifesting a body when necessary.

for me,it's about learning,exploration, freedom,and helping to open channels of conciousness for others.

I hope all this sets me back on the path again![:)]
The musical conciousness is mind beneath the sun.

rcatania

Hello all members!

I am new to this forum, but not new to OOBE.
I came across this site from another forum and just joined. I look forward to reading more posts and exchanging info as well as experiences.

I would like to ask advice to anyone who feels they can help to with following question.
I begin my conscious oobe's about 7 years ago and developed them over time.
I got to the point about 3 years ago where given the quiet time in the am I could oob with about 90 % success at will. Over the past few years my experiences have become far and few between and all my previous techniques seem to not bring on those vibrations as before.
I have had to adjust my sleep position a little due to a breathing issue when sleeping on my back. ( a mild sleep apnea it seems), Even though I am not over weight and in good physical condition. I have learned to sleep on my side for now.

Does any body have any experience or advice that has gone through this situation of being a somewhat skilled projector to somewhat unable projector?

When I was able to do this I have had some amazing experiences, from ET's to other dimensions all the way time travel. I also have reason to believe I in some way take my body with me on occasion.
Any positive advice is welcome.
Thanks
Rob