Tips?

[Nick]

Hi Jenia_San,

Well, if you've read each of the threads in our Welcome to Permanent Astral Topics forum and also Astral Dynamics, then all I would say is to keep trying. Also, I still read everything I can get my hands on, because it helps keep it in the consciousness. You also never know what you'll come across by reading that may help.

Some people who find OBE difficult have had good results with astral phasing. Rather than a projection of an etheric double into the real time zone, one projects one's consciousness into the astral proper. Again, I would invite you to explore some of the threads by Frank and Adrian in the Welcome to Permanent Astral Topics forum for a description of what phasing is.


Nick

[Jenia_San]

I did not read it all yet...
I barely managed to post this topic,my ISP is having problems...
so I just thought...
while I am TRYING to read those permenant astral topics and astral dynamics,I'll have a nice,cozy thread here to help me along the way[]

note:this is the 6th time I try to reply...
my ISP seems to have gotten itself fixed a few minutes ago but I can't go reading now as it is 1:30 AM.
I bet my IPS will break in the morning again though...

[Jenia_San]

I'v been attemting astral projection for some time now,as some of you might know...
my only sucsess were those few moments after a lucid dream,and that lasted 2 seconds...
I do not complain,it IS an achievment,but I wish for more (greedy me )

every time I start trying it,I feel my body allready vibrating a few moments after I close my eyes...
I do not know if it vibrates or not,but I can feel it vibrating.
after being like this for some time I sort of "lose track of existance".I am still counciuss but I am not thinking anything...
and I notoice nothing.
cos' I'm in that state,I can't concentrate on anything, so the attaemt fails and I usually fall asleep...
YES I DID read some stuff around (like the guide and some topics)
but just in case I'm making this one.
any tips on how to reach the astral would be greatly appreaciated.