Binaural, or not binaural??

[acidmax120]

Well fatteh,

Binaurals actually stop working after a while. Your brain in a sense builds a tolerance to the binaural frequencies. Well, I have overcome this, because I keep multiple sound files, each with different multi-layered frequencies. So it always works on me and my brain cant build a tolerance.

Like with holosync and hemisync. They work nice the first few times, but after a while they stop working, or their effect lessens. Thats why that have zillions of levels to these programs. With each level they lower the carrier frequency which overall keeps the frequencies variant to fight tolerance and help u go deeper.

[Fat_Turkey]

Well the question moreover is whether or not you should use astral projection binaurals. I mean, they have zillions of levels to help you go deeper because you sort of become addicted.

What I'm getting at is that binaurals probably don't teach you the skills to project, and like drugs, probably bypass a lot of natural barriers and such to get out there, which can sometimes be a bad idea.

Any other thoughts?

[|)]FT

[acidmax120]

Binaural beats help you get into a certain brain state. They dont give you OBEs.

Binaurals are quite effective, and dont have any addictive properties, as certain binaural beats enhance the mind to be even better naturally at getting an OBE.

Some binaural beats are quick fixes and not long term, and some are long term and not quick fixes.

So yes, the quick fixes are preventing you from attaining those states naturally, but the long term ones which exercise the mind for long term. Those will help you both ways and not have anything negative.

[Fat_Turkey]

Thanks for that acidmax, it clears a lot of things up.

So will I be better off or worse off without these "long-term" binaurals? I choose not to use them but I'm afraid of whether or not I should use them for a bit of help...

~FT

[acidmax120]

quote:Originally posted by Fat_Turkey

Thanks for that acidmax, it clears a lot of things up.

So will I be better off or worse off without these "long-term" binaurals? I choose not to use them but I'm afraid of whether or not I should use them for a bit of help...

~FT

You would be better off with the long term binaural beats. They train the mind to create new mental pathways, which make you calmer and more focused while not listening to them. BWGEN isnt what im talking about.

Im talking about Holosync and Hemi-Sync gateway programs.

[Blackstream]

quote:Originally posted by acidmax120
[brIm talking about Holosync and Hemi-Sync gateway programs.

I looked those up, and dang they sure are expensive, especially too a poor college student like me.  Buying Bruce's books hurt me enough, but those things are like $30 for some tunes :/  Is there anything that works that well, but is cheaper?  Like free?

[Fat_Turkey]

Try a good filesharing program. Kazaa isn't what I'm talking about.

DC++ is really good, and I have a few friends on AIM like Tom (anyone remember him?) who has a lot of Holosync tracks that he shares with me and others.

Most people, however, don't share the deeper levels of holosync because they put their own subliminal voice tracks on it. Tom said he won't do that, which is awesome.

I already have the first level of Holosync on my computer, absolutely free, thanks to him

[|)]FT

[alpine9]

Is holosync a binaural sound file, or are they two diferent things?

Can you get this type music with a computer because I don't have my own PC?

[Fat_Turkey]

Well yeah, you can, you order them from the Centrepointe website, which you can probably do at an internet cafe or someone else's computer. But with your own PC there are methods to get them for free!

As for Holosync, it's one track with the binaural on it.

Later
~FT

[NEone]

wow! I didn't even know that this was an option! I would assume (hopefully) that I could use one of these binaural sounds and then train myself to produce the desired effect on my own, so I don't get excessively dependent on them. I think I'll scour kazaa now, but, just to be on the safe side, noone produces "negative" binaural sounds, right? Like say a sound file that subconciously leaves you in a bad mood or something after listening to it?

[Fat_Turkey]

I read somewhere that a binaural is like an astral aide, and can be likened to floatation devices for children learning to swim.

The child is afraid of the water, and as such doesn't want to go in, even though the parents know that the child will be safe because of the floaties. So dad comes along and throws the child into the pool as a kind of joke, to get his child used to swimming.

The child panics and frantically swims back to shore, usually quite frightened of the experience.

Some could say the child was swimming, but then again you can say just the opposite.


But Fatteh, what are you getting at???

Simple. Binaurals are like swimming floaties, and being thrown into the water is the kind of effect they can have. In other words, spontaneous OBE. They can make you suddenly pop out there, sometimes into an uncontrolled environment, and you might panic and head straight back to your body.

Few people have used binaurals and completely gone "cold turkey" from them and been able to have OBEs easily. It's like a drug or some kind of addiction, like your mind gets too easily attuned to only having conscious-exits with the binaural. People who want to start with the binaurals tend to have to ween themselves off, which isn't very good.

Weening yourself off of binaurals can be likened to quitting smoking with a patch. You're still pumping nicotine into your body, so you are still slightly addicted as you go off of the poison.

Correct me if I'm wrong so I can tend to any wounds I could have from shooting myself in the foot [|)]


You're saying that binaurals are bad??

No, I'm just speculating whether they are such a good idea all the time. Programs like HoloSync can help greatly, and even improve meditation outside of using the binaurals.

But when it comes to astral projection, I'm still a bit iffy about binaurals.

So the question is...
Binaural, or not binaural???

Which do you think would give the projector the most skill and control??
Is it such a good idea??
Do binaurals actually improve projection outside of use, or is that just a placebo???

Thanks
~FT