I will shorten these story about this experience!!!
So...
This experience is full with vibratons and some being outside the body(withoust visible exit out of the body) but VERY humid and dark... (very little detail)
This what I am going to describe happened TWICE in my life...
I became conscious im my body in state of vibrations not able to move.. and I got the thought "Lets try" Monroe Focus10 (or 11 I dont know ) technique..
First I concentrated to the spot outside my eyes in the dark about 50cm distant.. then I radial moved this spot of concentration above to the top of my head...
It was VERY full with vibrations... and suddenly I felt strange sound in my head.. first sound like water flowing in my head.. then some time later... VERY LOUD WHISTLE, but not CONSTANT more like telephone and not so high frequncy, a bit deeper... pretty short and VERY loud.. I SCARED and woke up immendiately...
This SOUND is ABSOLUTELY identical like sond i heard in similar situation a year ago..
What is it ? What would happend if I didnd woke up.. would i go outside the body...
This sound is simmilar to soud in some of the presets in BW generator.
But I wasnt using it
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sorry.. bad English.. i dind write anything in english or spokeenglish for years
Most everyone gets this. The details vary from person to person but its mostly all the same when it happens. I don't know what the monroe focus 10 technique is, but I seem to reach this scary vibration state (with all its accompanied weird sounds and sometimes visuals) when I try and "relax" and drift into a lucid dream rather than phasing into one with mind visuals. By mind visuals I mean picturing a dream sequence and jumping into it. Phasing makes the changeover extremely simple and painfree. I think this scary vibration state is the result of being inbetween so to speak. When you drift slowly from one state (awake) to another (dream) instead of making an immediate jump, you go through this sleep paralysis / vibration state. That's my opinion on the subject.
That being said, regardless of why/how it happens, if you find yourself in that state do your best to stay calm and unafraid, and try to roll out onto the floor. You'll either roll out successfully and be in a lucid dream state vibration free (if you have lingering fear when you do it things might be scary, so rid yourself of fear) OR rarely you may just wake up in your bed .
hmmm so you can get into an LD without getting into the scary SP stage? how!
ive had a lot of dreams in which i was hoping something scary didnt happen and even thought it would but didnt. like i was walking past some maniquins like in silent hill 2, and i thought for sure they would come alive and attack me. i was REALLY worried that it would happen too, but nothing happened at all.
would this mean even if i was scared while in SP it wouldnt spawn something scary? just a thought.
oh yes, i have also heard this loud buzzing ringing sound in my head getting EXTREMELY loud before too bro
Quote from: DraegeMost everyone gets this. The details vary from person to person but its mostly all the same when it happens. I don't know what the monroe focus 10 technique is, but I seem to reach this scary vibration state (with all its accompanied weird sounds and sometimes visuals) when I try and "relax" and drift into a lucid dream rather than phasing into one with mind visuals. By mind visuals I mean picturing a dream sequence and jumping into it. Phasing makes the changeover extremely simple and painfree. I think this scary vibration state is the result of being inbetween so to speak. When you drift slowly from one state (awake) to another (dream) instead of making an immediate jump, you go through this sleep paralysis / vibration state. That's my opinion on the subject.
That being said, regardless of why/how it happens, if you find yourself in that state do your best to stay calm and unafraid, and try to roll out onto the floor. You'll either roll out successfully and be in a lucid dream state vibration free (if you have lingering fear when you do it things might be scary, so rid yourself of fear) OR rarely you may just wake up in your bed .
It wasnt lucid drema state it was VIBRATINAL stale like prior to etheric šrojection..
Vibrational state isnt present in lucid dremas, i think..
Quotemonroe focus 10 technique
Try google, it is very efficinet technique for etheric projection...
But you must wake a few hours earlier then usual, than be one hour awake. and thn try this technique...
For me vibrations arent so scary.. but I got afraid when heard that strange short very loud sound in my head
QuoteEXTREMELY loud before too bro
too bro???
Quote from: grizliQuoteEXTREMELY loud before too bro
too bro???
He is saying that he has heard the same loud noise. :wink:
grizli: just let go. Remember to let go. Nothing will happen. Yeah, that sound is scary but some guys say that if you can "keep it" for two or three minutes without losing it, you project. Anyway, it's difficult not to scary to unknown things. You read Monroe and what he says: "The greatest barrier is the fear itself, the fear to the unknown". So if that happens again, I'm sure the third time you won't be scared at all. :)
Congrats !!
The best essay -IMHO- about Focus10 and how to achieve it the one written by Major Tom. Here's the LINK:
http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13644 (http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=13644)
Yeah, it's long but if you didn't read it and you want to project/phase, it's a "must".
Cheers,
Magic.
magicmac2000:
QuoteI'm sure the third time you won't be scared at all. Smile
I am a kind of a scary person :lol: :lol:
There is something interesting :
My fear in state of vibrations I control or reduce by sexual feeling similar to excitement like meeting a girl or sth. like that... do you know what I mean??
I thing this PRIMARY or ANIMAL feellng will always lead me to dark and lower place of astral..
I thing I need different approach to fear by concentrating on something higher or subtile more than sexual affection.. like LOVE .. or warm feeling in hearth chakra...
Is etheric projection always connected by primary or "sexual" chakra..
I thing in state of vibration a great amount of energy is flowing from primary chakra up to higher chakras toward to head
QuoteCongrats !!
Why? Is this vibration state special or unusluall, and shoud I be happy of able to achieve it?
grizli:
Quote from: grizliI thing this PRIMARY or ANIMAL feeling will always lead me to dark and lower place of astral..
I thing I need different approach to fear by concentrating on something higher or subtile more than sexual affection.. like LOVE .. or warm feeling in hearth chakra...
IMHO there is no dark or lower place in the Astral, but I'm a beginner like you, so that's just my opinion. If you imagine monsters, you will see'em. If you imagine an ICE-Cream, probably you will find one. So, don't feel guilty about your sexual feelings. We are humans. Obvious, it will be more productive to concentrate in other things like your breath, the ringing (the sound that you heard) or simply imagining yourself in a different location and trying "feel" exactly as if you are REALLY there. But if sexual content comes to your mind, don't think it will lead you to dark/lower places coz it will. Yeah, that will be your imagination but anyway, you will feel it for real :) Thought is very very powerful in the Astral.
I told you "Congrats" because for most people is very difficult to get into that state: Vibes and Ringing. If you have Vibes and you hear the Ring, just keep focused (breath, different location or whatever) and you will soon project.
Good luck !
Magic.
QuoteSo, don't feel guilty about your sexual feelings.
You misunderstood: I am not feeling guilty at all, i just want to say that concentration on different chakras has different effect..
QuoteI told you "Congrats" because for most people is very difficult to get into that state: Vibes and Ringing. If you have Vibes and you hear the Ring, just keep focused (breath, different location or whatever) and you will soon project.
Do you have vibrations.. did you ever have real and conscious projection.. I mean exit from the body
Bye :grin:
funny.i used to hear that sound about every day.several times a day.sometimes extremly loud and sometimes extremly low.Funny.i mever tried to OBE so i dunno why i got to hear those noises.lately,since like a year ago, i only hear the sound rarely
Quote from: grizliDo you have vibrations.. did you ever have real and conscious projection.. I mean exit from the body
Yes, I have had those vibes and the ring, but I couldn't project at will because I lost my concentration :) Now that I'm better with my concentration, the vibes are not always there :(
I had projected spontaneously, never from an awake state. That's what I'm aiming for.
I usually have projection when having vibes, but without conscious exit from the body...
I never saw my body when projected. you??
grizli: never, but one time I had a mixture between a "Dream/Lucid Dream/Whatever it was" where I saw my body (or at least a body) naked in my bed. He was sleeping with a fetus position. I remember looking at him and trying to wake him up without success :) But again, I can't say it was a projection. I don't know what it was.
When I have spontaneous, I usually "black out" and end up in a different location. I never had an RTZ with clear sight in my room so... anyway I didn't have too many projections yet :). Most of my experiences where short/very short and I'm still a beginner. Check out this experience (http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=20995), it was very short but as you see, if the vibes are there, I always "catch the train" :) For me spontaneous projections are like "free food". I never say "no" to them :)
Leannain: but that sound was like a "RING" or like a buzzing ?
Cheers,
Magic.
i was in a dream and found myself at my desk floating in front of it. i picked up a book which i dont own and somehow knew i was dreaming and tried to float around. i again heard a very loud ringing sound which continued until i woke up.