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astralrealmer

I have been trying to get into the mind awake body asleep for some time now.When i do get into it and cant move what next ?

dbmathis

I was able to exit when in sleep paralysis earlier this month. I simply thought about rolling out to the side and it happened. I was then standing next to my bed, out of body.
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astralrealmer

thankyou for your info.

dbmathis

No problem, let me know you do. I am interested in hearing.
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newmethod

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Quote from: dbmathis on January 29, 2009, 11:08:43
I simply thought about rolling out to the side and it happened.
When you "thought" this.... did you think you ...the you now inhabiting your projectable body were rolling out, or is ALL focus off body/bodies at this point and 'you were simply thinking' -> "I'll now roll out of bed" and DONE you were out!!!

Is there ANY sense of weight in your projectable double or is it perfectly weightless?

Is there any weight behind the thought of "rolling out" or is this thought almost weightless?

Thank you,

-Newmethod-

dbmathis

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QuoteWhen you "thought" this.... did you think you ...the you now inhabiting your projectable body were rolling out, or is ALL focus off body/bodies at this point and 'you were simply thinking' -> "I'll now roll out of bed" and DONE you were out!!!

I didn't think of any body at all. I just thought about rolling out. Do you normally think about your body when you do things in the physical world? :). You just simply do it.

QuoteIs there ANY sense of weight in your projectable double or is it perfectly weightless?

Is there any weight behind the thought of "rolling out" or it this thought almost weightless?

I really was so shocked that I was out of body that I didn't notice whether or not there was weight. It's really hard to explain and my experience is so limited.

It's odd that you ask though because my last post to my blog I mention that I noticed something was wrong because when I sat up in the bed "out of body" I had no sense of ouch or body weight and it caught my attention. It made me snap back into my body immediately.
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newmethod

Quote from: dbmathis on January 29, 2009, 21:46:38
I didn't think of any body at all. I just thought about rolling out. Do you normally think about your body when you do things in the physical world? :). You just simply do it.

I find i normally think about the amount of energy required to do the movement....I think this is true when broken down slowly....otherwise you & i would probably find ourselves stumbling over, throwing our drinks over as we went to grab them etc, running when we meant to walk...etc...

say i 've been quickly thinking about an idea... (during this thinking the thoughts are close to weightless, some have more weight than others but compared to controlling bodily activity - the thoughts are lighter - close to weightless).... generally my first thought when performing a bodily movement is where to direct the energy and how much energy is required to create the required outcome ... If it is a bodily action i target energy into the areas of my body that are required to do work, and then i choose whether to proceed with this movement or not........(should i progress with the thought).....

So in a way i am not thinking of the body, i am thinking of the direction and quantity of energy required to perform the action...

as a whole... i sorta think "yeah ... i'm just going to extend my arm out - energy required there to do this....and (if after i've given permission for this to happen, it is done virtually instantly - when doing this it feels there is little thinking of the body any more as the action happens.. though at some stage during the action hopefully close to completion ...sensory input is expected... the outwardly directed energy is waiting for sensory input someway throughout the action/thought before this ....but not necessarily expecting it ... until the stage is complete... ie.Feeling the bottle/glass against the palm of our hand...

depending on how far you need to reach requires that greater permission was previously given or that permission was given again at a later time after the action was first performed)..... you can't seem to go too far without needing to redirect the energy and assess the consequences of our action or how the action is being performed... ie. Further you run/walk requires that permission is given for a longer period to produce the action.. or that permission is given almost continuously...

Interesting.. think about changing habits.. previous permissions... where is the energy to be directed.. was it given permission.. how long ago.. for how long.....

More energy/further permission is required to keep thoughts moving or actions happening.. unless FULL permission was given in the beginning... if FULL permission was there, there is nothing else to be done.... If FULL permission was not given... like we wanted to try it out first, or get some feedback on what is happening...eg.picking up a cup OR trusting in what you are asking for.... ie. Whether an OBE experience or whatever else we want, desire for, or are trying to achieve......We are receiving back sensory information..and giving further permission... perhaps that's why some of us require training....

- if, in my thought i didn't give permission for the movement to occur, then the thought does not proceed......If permission is given at the time of the thought process, then it does proceed  :-o ......... In this i feel, the energy is then automatically directed to the relevant areas to cause muscle contraction -> down fibres etc... Dunno what happens on a larger scale.. Energy moves energy i suppose???  :lol: :lol: .

I just created a little light, a spark of energy in my brain.... :lol: :lol: "I CREATED"

If this thought about permission is correct... then...probably same thing is happening on a larger levels... ie.thoughts create your reality....Stop giving permission for those things you don't want and give permission for those things that you do want... :) Also relateable to OBE... Give it previous permission to happen and maybe...

And... Have you noticed the more involved you are with an internal thought, the more the physical reality around us 'kind of' disappears... So.. maybe we just need to get thoroughly involved in an external thought and ....

BAM! ....
Created...
thought directed externally -> = creating an external reality for us to explore.... maybe it is us (along with the power of CREATED Energy - can't be created or destroyed - except possibly by a large enough grouped energy) - that creates our reality both on the astral and the physical planes...

Hopefully OBE TONIGHT following my possible revelations...!  8-) :-) :lol: 8-)

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Cool... i figure I'm on the right track... when i can slow myself down enough to a place where i can be next to sleep... but have enough awareness (or possibly programming - thereby passing the permission - ie. waking up and being out - no permission needed to project.....it was given earlier....) & enough mass behind the power of the outwardly directed thought.....that has previous permission..... i will OBE :)

dbmathis

I know you will succeed. I would really try not to over analyze it. First do it and then try to figure out how and why it's happening later. That's what I plan to do. Just a warning, once you do get out of your body ask for total control., clarity and awareness. I have a hard time controlling things in my limited experience and the instant I think of doing something it instantly happens.
"Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand."

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krisko

Quote from: astralrealmer on January 29, 2009, 09:47:41
I have been trying to get into the mind awake body asleep for some time now.When i do get into it and cant move what next ?

I have only tryed OBE a few times and everytime I have been sucussful of leaving my body. I don't think about it that much and I just tell my self I want to get out of my body and start acting as if I was getting up out of bed as if I was awake but when I'm paralized. It has worked for me so far.

Good luck and have fun!

newmethod

Quote from: krisko on February 01, 2009, 22:44:50
I have only tryed OBE a few times and everytime I have been sucussful of leaving my body. I don't think about it that much and I just tell my self I want to get out of my body and start acting as if I was getting up out of bed as if I was awake but when I'm paralized. It has worked for me so far.

Good luck and have fun!
@Krisco ... thanks for the advise... you make it sound so simple... I like that idea..:)..

You just WILL yourself out or do you BELIEVE yourself out??

blackcat

If stuck in paralysis, it can help to just relax and go with the flow a bit.  If you are mentally tense it seems to contribute to the paralysis state.  Instead, relax, feel for your energy and flow with it.  It's just a subtle shift of mindset and then you are free.  I do think it helps to rehearse your plan a lot when awake.  Then when you suddenly become conscious and are in paralysis, you just follow the plan, relax, flow with energy, roll out, go to window, fly out of house, go to friends house, etc.  Don't fall into the mindset that it is hard, because it needn't be but if you think it is hard, it will be hard.  If you think it is easy, it will be easy. 
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If I'm in a deep enough trance while in sleep paralysis, I just get up as I would physically; then I'm out. If you really are in sleep paralysis, your body won't move. I've tried "thinking" about leaving my body though that doesn't work for me, so I would just do it how I would "physically". I suppose different methods are easier for different people. Try to find your own method.  :-)