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Prophazuh

While OOB, has anyone had anyone/anything ask you whether you were temporarily OOB or permanently OOB but in riddle-form? If so, what did you say and how did you handle that situation?

One example:

-...this dude asked me something like, "do you always remember or do you only remember when you go back?" I knew that he meant, "are you visiting or are you always here," but I never like to admit that I'm just a visitor, so I said, "I always remember." Then, all of a sudden, I felt like my teeth were being pulled with great force. When I felt this (and I knew it was him that did this to me), I was like, "Okay! Okay! I don't always remember! (something like that)."

Some people seem to know that I'm a visitor without me saying anything.

One example:

-...this dude said to me (from a distance), "why don't you go back to your reign?, " or "why don't you go back to where you reign?" I pretended like I didn't know what he was talking about and said, "WHAT!?" He smiled and slightly laughed almost as if he knew that I knew what he meant. I was ticked off and was thinking whether or not I should return to my physical body.

Has anyone had anyone/anything tell them to go back to there physical body while OOB? What was your response or reaction?

Also, why do you think people speak in riddles (or recieve answers in riddle-form) when your OOB instead of just saying exactly what they want to know or exactly what they mean because I find it annoying?





Synergy

Well, my viewpoint differs a little in that we always exist on the higher levels (we always have an astral body, an etheric body,  lower and higher mental bodies) that correspond to the higher levels.  We never actually 'leave' our physical body as such... I think of it more as we are like a radio receiving all the different frequencies at once, but only tune into one at a time.  The different levels are the 'channels'.   

So, in that sense, we are not visitors, we are there all the time, just not always aware of it. 

I have never had anyone ask me anything like that.  My conversations while out have always been direct and to the point. 
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Quote from: Prophazuh on October 17, 2008, 05:03:44
While OOB, has anyone had anyone/anything ask you whether you were temporarily OOB or permanently OOB but in riddle-form? If so, what did you say and how did you handle that situation?

One example:

-...this dude asked me something like, "do you always remember or do you only remember when you go back?" I knew that he meant, "are you visiting or are you always here," but I never like to admit that I'm just a visitor, so I said, "I always remember." Then, all of a sudden, I felt like my teeth were being pulled with great force. When I felt this (and I knew it was him that did this to me), I was like, "Okay! Okay! I don't always remember! (something like that)."

Some people seem to know that I'm a visitor without me saying anything.

One example:

-...this dude said to me (from a distance), "why don't you go back to your reign?, " or "why don't you go back to where you reign?" I pretended like I didn't know what he was talking about and said, "WHAT!?" He smiled and slightly laughed almost as if he knew that I knew what he meant. I was ticked off and was thinking whether or not I should return to my physical body.

Has anyone had anyone/anything tell them to go back to there physical body while OOB? What was your response or reaction?

Also, why do you think people speak in riddles (or recieve answers in riddle-form) when your OOB instead of just saying exactly what they want to know or exactly what they mean because I find it annoying?




There have been many accounts of OOBE'ers experiencing non physical entities telling them they should not be there, or telling them to get back into their bodies, etc etc. I remember reading one experiencers account of a nonphysical entity making a comment about "all of you astral travellers" which is interesting because that tells me that specific entity has seen more than one astral traveller. Now, wether or not the nonphysical entities in question are only a part of the experiencer is irrelevant. The thing I am wondering is this, how do they "know" someone is an OOBE'er or AP'er? Do they see a different vibration? Do they see the silver cord? Would be interesting to find the answer. And the reason they are asking you in riddle form is - you have to remember, the english language is one of many many languages used in the here/now of our physical universe/dimension. So the discarnate beings you see "out there" could be entities who have never even set foot into our physicality, let alone learn or know our language. Think of it as this - when someone speaks to you in a riddle, basically you are percieving what they are saying but the manner in which they are speaking either verbally or telepathically could be a modality in which you would not understand with your current dimensional understanding. Its like when you translate japanese to english, it doesnt come out exactly as it would if you were to say the phrase in pure english. Its the same thing. So when someone out there talks to you, the cosmic or universal translator built inside of you sometimes makes it come across in such a way that it is broken or in riddle form. Also you have to remember, that out there since most entities hold forth in a nonphysical manner, they might be downloading your modality of communication from you and they speak in only a way in which they can understand.

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Prophazuh

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That's exactly what I'm talking about, how do they know that someone is an Astral Projector? I always try not to do/say anything that might lead someone or something into knowing that I was there temporarily.

I understand the whole language translation thing but I feel like they are purposely asking these questions in riddle-form because wouldn't most/all of the communication between myself and others be in riddle-form as well?











Van-Stolin

I think they know how, but its from my own experiences with other beings and not from asking them.  When ever I go out I search for familar energy patterns.  I can tell when someone is just visiting or if they are from the astral. 

The energy vibration is higher for non-physical beings and its clear and clean.  The visitors have distortions to their energy, they seem to go up and down a lot.  It's harder to tell when they are better focused though, but if they are thinking about their body then it goes back down.  That's just from observation and general conversation.
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