WOW!!!! is this machine for real!?!?!

The AlphaOmega · November 16, 2003, 22:06:37

Not sure, I've never heard anything about it before. Guess the only way to know is to try it. The Monroe Institute uses sounds to induce OBE in people, and machines to induce the proper sounds. So I guess it's possible that there would be a machine that can do it. Does it explain HOW it works?

DarkQuest · November 16, 2003, 22:08:22

only if you order it after reading the more info i believe. id like to order it.... if i was rich. too bad i cant be like that [

] well i guess i can invent my own machine lol. this may be going off topic, but what i read in the more info says that using it a certain way can cause physical time travel!?!? id love to try this machine but like i said i dont got the money.

Snowman024 · November 16, 2003, 22:15:14

I wish I was rich [

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LogoRat · November 17, 2003, 01:03:46

This s*** gives me a flashack of a movie i saw several years ago.
Some dude got addicted to get electricity in his body.
And the movie ended with him hooking up himself to a SpaceRocketRamp to get high voltage through his head with a headband of steel.

Ramiel · November 17, 2003, 02:01:00

This s*** gives me flashbacks of other random threads where people try to peddle off products as if they aren't associated with the company...

The AlphaOmega · November 17, 2003, 03:15:34

I've heard of the "time travel" machine. Apparently there's something out there that helps with AP that if used enough can allow you to travel through time for something like $400.00? And oh ya, it runs on crystals. Time travel is an impossibility because the past is something that occured, not something that exists. I don't want to get into the complete and utter impossibilities of it, but I'm confident that anyone who really sits down and thinks about all the possible effects will realize why it's not possible. One can witness the past through AP because it's like reading a story or watching the history channel. You can see the events as they happened.. because they've already happened. It's not like going back in time, but merely relieving what has once occured. I wouldn't put too much faith in these machines though. Just look at infomercials. You won't find one that doesnt "guarantee" success... but that doesn't mean success is guaranteed. Get my drift?

Nagual · November 17, 2003, 06:35:08

Hum... these guys are selling some crazy stuff... too crazy for me, or with no guarantee... like:

First, the time machines... no comment.

Free Energy plans
"Simple Circuit to prove free energy exists. Also Plans to show you how to build a completly solid-state Free-Energy device. Output is over 100% efficient! FREE(when you place an order OVER $50.00)"

Clark Coil
"Incredible effect produces anti-magnetic field by fluids moving through coils of copper tubing. Possible free-energy/anti-gravity potential."

Reich Cloudbuster
"Incredible device utilizes 'Orgone Energy' to allow an operator to control the weather! Can create or dissipate violent storms. Newly Updated."

Turn Silver to Gold
"Learn of a common Alchemists recipe for turning silver into Gold. Can be easily duplicated. This recipe was given to us from an annonomous source. The individual claimed that it worked. Find out for yourself!"

Wishing Machine (upgraded)
"Imagine if you had 3 wishes. Well with this device, you have as many as you want. The equivilant of an electronic genie, it amplifies users brain waves to make your wishes literally come true! Be careful what you wish for."

Communicate with the Dead
"Are the dead communicating with us through electronic means? Build this circuit to listen to and record the voices of the 'Other Side'."

etc...

DarkQuest · November 17, 2003, 11:48:57

yeh its all pretty weird. i just cant believe that according to the site scientists believe that they found time travel is possible? well if they make these so called machines to go in the future itll be impossible cause if we could travel in the future then the people from the future would travel to our time and it would just get lemme say REAL CONFUSING! i mean i think theres a very slight possibility of going BACK in time but no way could you go in the FUTURE. and im very very skeptic about the past. the only reason i posted this thing up was cuz it said it could give spontaneous AP just like theres a mask you put on thats 200 bucks that can help LD.

APGuy · November 17, 2003, 13:33:56

It is impossible to travel back in time without turning into energy according to E=MC². As far as physically time travelling it is possible but it isn't actually time travel. It is merely going into a parellel universe of our own based upon different points in time of our own. So actual time travel is only possible for going to the past but the most likely future is visitable through teleportation however this isn't yet possible for a human only things like couple celled organisms. In the case of projectors the most likely futures are visitable through teleportation on the RTZ.

cinnabardk · November 17, 2003, 14:49:34

As always, buyer beware !
Technology may be an aid, but it is no substitute for spiritual development. I posted that link, simply because I found the website very interesting.
I have bought the Hyper Dimensional Resonator from them, when it was a lot cheaper than it currently is, and it seems to be the exact same model that they are advertising for now, that I bought.
Therefore my observations should still be valid. Though I have no full understanding of how the device works, if such is possible, the electromagnet seems to be the essential part, as it is used to stimulate the solar plexus chakra (I have felt a buzzing feel in that area after using it). According to what I have heard, not from the inventor, the solar plexus area can be used as an exit-gateway when attempting an astral projection. (The inventor of the device seems to have no real knowledge of the ways of the astral, and seems to be heavily intertwined in the Christian belief system.)
If physical time travel is desired, it is necessary to use it over a vortex area, according to the author. Such a vortex should be possible to make yourself, it isn't explained in the manual though.

Does it work ?. Apart from Solar Plexus area stimulation, and a single real-time projection, NO. I am not saying that the inventor is a liar, the device might just be tailored to HIS way of getting out of body.
Spend your time practicing NEW, relaxation, and astral projection, the Robert Bruce way. Technological gimmicks are no substitute for spiritual development.

As to the other products that they are selling; it's your money, it's your loss/gain. A lot of inventions are suppressed (do a search), and a lot of gimmicky devices are marketed on the net.

As to whether it is possible to visit the future, well, I have seen the future at least two times, (trivial events), so why should it not be possible to visit it ?. I have also experienced being another of my Higher Self's incarnations. A relative of mine has seen two humans from a time long gone, walk as if they existed in the current timeframe.
I embrace the unlikely.

DarkQuest · November 17, 2003, 15:44:43

im glad someone is around to give a review of the item. just out of curiousity though, how much was it when u got it?

cinnabardk · November 17, 2003, 17:10:28

It cost me 350 U.S.D.
Please keep in mind that the only reason for answering your question was, that I posted the link for the website with the device, in the first place. I was therefore responsible. Normally I don't answer questions where little intent has gone into it (poorly formulated questions, poor grammar/spelling). Coming up with an elaborate answer in such cases, would be inappropriate on my part. Like attracts like. Intent is rewarded with intent.

Astral_Neptune · November 17, 2003, 18:31:51

I have heard of a machine (eye glasses), from the Monroe Institue if i am not mistaken, that induces lucid dreams. I am not sure, but i think it is a pair of glasses that blinks a red light in your eye, after detecting that you are sleeping (rem, rapid eye movement). The red light is not powerful enough to wake your physical up, but will remind you that you are dreaming.
Is there anyone here know what i am talking about? I remember it being very expensive.
-Mike
Astral_Neptune

APGuy · November 17, 2003, 18:37:01

quote:
Originally posted by Astral_Neptune

I have heard of a machine (eye glasses), from the Monroe Institue if i am not mistaken, that induces lucid dreams. I am not sure, but i think it is a pair of glasses that blinks a red light in your eye, after detecting that you are sleeping (rem, rapid eye movement). The red light is not powerful enough to wake your physical up, but will remind you that you are dreaming.
Is there anyone here know what i am talking about? I remember it being very expensive.
-Mike
Astral_Neptune

I think I've heard of that doesn't it also make some quiet noises also?

echo · November 17, 2003, 19:08:39

never herd of that before

DarkQuest · November 17, 2003, 20:05:35

yes, Astral_Neptune you are exactly right. those were the things i was talking about in one of my other posts here. They are just an aid to induce lucid dreaming and cost about $200 and they dont work excellent as they are just an aid to help you.

And might i add the name of this mask is called "The Nova Dreamer" i believe

Astral_Neptune · November 17, 2003, 20:52:45

Neato... I did a little research and found it. I was probably mistaken about the connection with the Monroe Institute.
I think it is mainly used for recognizing you're sleeping to enter a lucid dream. But we know that we can use lucid dreaming to enter an awareness to astral projection.

http://www.lucidity.com/novadreamer.html

But check this out! This looks like a very inexpensive way of building them yourself.

http://www.gocs1.com/Psionics/Lucid-Dream-Goggles.htm

-Mike
Astral_Neptune

DarkQuest · November 17, 2003, 22:28:50

thx, but au contraire (tryin to be french lol) you can go straight from a Lucid Dream to astral projection, so i hear. what you do is when you realize you are dreaming, then your mind becomes awake, and your body is asleep, correct? so i think you do something like end the dream knowing it then stay in that relaxing state to project, or shout in the dream "I am about to have an OBE!" somethin like that

GhostRider · November 18, 2003, 00:44:20

My brother almost got ripped off when he thought of buying that time machine. Glad he changed his mind though. Cinnabardk, are still using the machine? Have you sent it back yet? If you are using it still, does it do for you what it suggested? Allow you to better be able to time travel?

Thanks ahead of time for your response.

Tombo · November 18, 2003, 05:35:59

I see this kinds of websites as an IQ-test. It helps you to determine how well your brain works. How clear and rational is your thinking. I think thats an important point before you start astraltravel. Imagine you are very naiv and credulous thats not a good mental state to explore a new world and to learn

cinnabardk · November 18, 2003, 07:56:22

Ghostrider:
No, I am not using it. I no longer consider it worthwhile to try technological shortcuts to spiritual development. No, I have not sent it back - it took me some time to realize that flashy gizmos aren't a help in the long run. I have already described my experiences with it (it didn't do much). Physical time travel is of no interest to me currently, as I think that we live in one of the most interesting times of history.

tombodenmann:
I wish more people would see TV as an IQ test.

OOraOO · November 18, 2003, 09:07:18

That site is just a pawn for money, most things people buy from there never come.
I wouldnt advise it...

LogoRat · November 18, 2003, 10:34:16

Beware, dont confuse this machine with Hemi-Sync or BwGen.
Its not the same thing.

And btw, its not that you are more intelligent just because you are sceptic.

The machine may work, but i dont think its a safe way to go tho

If i wanted to get obe by using electricity and stuff on my head i would feel it much better to use a gun..its more permanent.

DarkQuest · November 18, 2003, 12:50:17

lol LogoRat. well im just leavin it that the machine isn't good for helping AP, as it is like an aid to help you AP if it helps at all. and it would be hard to adjust without the machine if it does help you im sure.

DarkQuest · November 16, 2003, 21:47:14

WOW i was looking at this website http://www.futurehorizons.net thanks to cinnabardk and i found this machine, note its very expensive, that can give u a spontaneous astral projection according to them, and they say its no joke. heres the link. http://www.futurehorizons.net/time2.htm and if you wanna see details on if u wanna purchase it and try it (might i remind its very expensive) the link is http://www.futurehorizons.net/time.htm id sure like more information on this thing!

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