Hi friends!I want to share with you the thing I've discovered this morning-So I woke up around 7.30 am,I was feeling sleepy and lazy and i didn't want to get up.Then a strange Idea came to my mind-as some of you might know,the ringing sound in your ears can be controlled by some point(Increase,decrease a bit,or change it's pitch)-so I concentrated and created two tones one long and one short to repeat in my head,something like teeee-tit.Less than a minute and vibes struck!I lost them but tried again and again the result was amazing!However the feeling that I am choking broke my trance and I lost the desire to go on... :?Anyone is welcome to try this method(if not already discovered) :lol: and share with us the results!Good luck!
I read about this long time ago. So you are not alone about it. I tried it a little with no success but perhaps I didn't do it long enough or some other condition that was wrong, like being too awake.
I guess you're right about the to awake thingy,once you lose the drowsiness and it's over :lol: I'll try again when I get to bed :wink:
I've always found it hard to do anything dream-related when going to bed in the evening. Waking up in the morning and then instantly start some technique works much better. It also bypasses relaxation techniques.
Hi Simo, I got this choking experience and I have come to the conclusion that it is the throat chakra that is blocked. I work on clearing it by sweeping with my mind up to it from the feet and keep doing that as a preparation exercise. As a result I did get a better clear feeling.
Good luck, djed :-)
I've experienced some pretty intense throat chakra sensations recently. As I'm drifting off to sleep my unconscious starts to take over functions like swallowing. When I'm not quite asleep yet and my throat swallows involuntarily it makes me feel an energy rush there that's kind of shocking because I'm almost asleep.
The problem is different here it's not the throat,it's my chest not expanding to take air :D
Pls someone tell me why concentrating on the ringing noise in your ears would induce vibrations? just curious.
Quote from: Simo on April 23, 2011, 07:08:07
The problem is different here it's not the throat,it's my chest not expanding to take air :D
This is because of
REM atonia. When you are in the VS (SP) you are aware of the depolarization (paralysis) of neurons controlling striated muscle groups. These are any muscles connected to bone. Other muscles such as throat, eyes, heart, digestive tract and diaphragm aren't depolarized... these are basically all on 'autopilot' during sleep. When you become aware of your breathing during VS you instintively try to breath using the intercostal muscles of your rib-cage. These are paralysed... so you will find odd resistance like a pressure or inability to breath. Your diaphragm is doing the breathing work (note this is what we use during meditation) during REM atonia... also it is under the influence of the automatic breathing cycle of the
medulla oblongata... so any attempt to override this causes a type of dissonance of feeling like breathing is out of pace.
I will say that breathing issues are an artifact of RTZ separation. I never run into 'How am I breathing' problems during AP.
Quote from: Bedeekin on April 24, 2011, 20:21:12
This is because of REM atonia. When you are in the VS (SP) you are aware of the depolarization (paralysis) of neurons controlling striated muscle groups. These are any muscles connected to bone. Other muscles such as throat, eyes, heart, digestive tract and diaphragm aren't depolarized... these are basically all on 'autopilot' during sleep. When you become aware of your breathing during VS you instintively try to breath using the intercostal muscles of your rib-cage. These are paralysed... so you will find odd resistance like a pressure or inability to breath. Your diaphragm is doing the breathing work (note this is what we use during meditation) during REM atonia... also it is under the influence of the automatic breathing cycle of the medulla oblongata... so any attempt to override this causes a type of dissonance of feeling like breathing is out of pace.
I will say that breathing issues are an artifact of RTZ separation. I never run into 'How am I breathing' problems during AP.
That's the best answer ever!Thanks Bedeekin!Now i know how to fix that problem!
Quote from: Bellend_1010 on April 24, 2011, 09:54:05
Pls someone tell me why concentrating on the ringing noise in your ears would induce vibrations? just curious.
I can state only my opinion ofcourse,conc.on ringing is not different than concentrating on something else(image,saying a word,etc).It just helps you go inward,to shutoff awerness of physical,how you go deeper you experience hipnogogic state.
Quote from: Bedeekin on April 24, 2011, 20:21:12
This is because of REM atonia. When you are in the VS (SP) you are aware of the depolarization (paralysis) of neurons controlling striated muscle groups. These are any muscles connected to bone. Other muscles such as throat, eyes, heart, digestive tract and diaphragm aren't depolarized... these are basically all on 'autopilot' during sleep. When you become aware of your breathing during VS you instintively try to breath using the intercostal muscles of your rib-cage. These are paralysed... so you will find odd resistance like a pressure or inability to breath. Your diaphragm is doing the breathing work (note this is what we use during meditation) during REM atonia... also it is under the influence of the automatic breathing cycle of the medulla oblongata... so any attempt to override this causes a type of dissonance of feeling like breathing is out of pace.
I will say that breathing issues are an artifact of RTZ separation. I never run into 'How am I breathing' problems during AP.
Genius! 8-)
I think people need to read this again. It's not just the best answer...it's
the answer.
Also the ringing or buzzing sounds are important to deepening the state...
During the onset of SP, intermittent bursts of involuntary Tensor tympani muscle spasms can be felt and heard and become an integral part of the experience.
(http://www.meta-mind.org/wiki/images/4/4d/Ear.gif)
You might be able to voluntarily contract this muscle inducing a noticeable and odd 'rumbling' sound to occur. The involuntary actions of these bones being retracted is to stop the inner ear from being damaged by sudden loud acoustics - go to a quiet room and clap your hands or click your fingers; you should hear a little middle ear rumbling noise accompanying external noise.
The voluntary contraction of these muscles causes them to vibrate not unlike the small vibrations in any muscle that is contracted very hard, say the muscles in your arm.
You perceive these contracted middle ear muscle vibrations as a "rumbling noise" because the vibrations are transmitted the middle ear bones and then to the inner ear.
This ability can come in very handy when it comes to deepening the vibrations of Sleep Paralysis. It is unknown why the tensing of the Tensor tympani muscle should deepen the state. Robert A. Monroe stated that he uses his jaw to raise the vibrations of the second state. Interesting then that the nerves controling the tiny muscles are also responsible for the jaw or at least extend into the lower jaw's nerve bundles. Taking this into account it is also interesting to note that mammals are unique in having three ear bones, which have evolved from bones of the jaw, and allow finer detection of sound.
It has been recently discovered that during REM sleep these muscles go into spasm and vibrate at a high rate... some say it is to cut off residual external noise from the outside world so that dreaming is made possible.
Bedeekin, you have some deep knowledge of this stuff. Keep it up.
As for why listening to this sound takes you to trance, IMO, it is a natural hypnotizer that takes your monkey mind to single pointedness. Trance follows.
You can change it a little bit, I have a feeling that it remains same and your perception of it changes. You can find a lot of variations in it (It is mostly pink noise, many overtones are present). As you go deeper and concentrate you will find finer and finer tones, some beyond 16KHz. Focus on the finest ones as soon as you find it.
Its the fastest way to AP.
Quote from: Psan on April 25, 2011, 13:04:29
Bedeekin, you have some deep knowledge of this stuff. Keep it up.
Sorry... that's pretty much the extent of it... :-D
I'll stick my nose in here and there if I think I can.
But why paralysis blocks the ribs muscle group and not the diaphragm?what decides what to get paralyzed and what not?
It's the paralysis of striated muscles during REM atonia... these are muscles attatched to bone... so that you don't act out your dreams apparently. The intercostal muscles that bridge between your ribs are striated muscles and are the ones we use when needing to take in more air, during excercise and when stressed or anxious.
Your diaphragm is a musculofibrous septum and isn't a skeletal muscle. It is the muscle that we use to breath when relaxed. It is the natural breathing muscle. Watch someone breath when they sleep. You'll notice their abdomen rising more than a chest expansion. On an interesting note... as you know we cycle through sleep stages. Before REM and more noticably directly after, we micro-wake. We slightly wake up and then drift back into slow stage...
You will know when someone micro-wakes from a dream - they take a deep breath. This is because of the bodies natural response to the muscles becoming polarized (un-paralysed) and a need for more oxygen.
Thanks a lot I've go it,and this makes me think that our bodies are more clever than we think...but this paralysis is directed from the subconscious or....thats what evades me
Mind and Body Simo.
If anything, the largest change in my life since the beginning of my astral projection attempts is the ever more clear separation between the mental and the physical. I am aware now that my body is simply a vessel for my consciousness. At first it freaked me out, bad. But now I feel I am much stronger with this awareness.
I think of the paralysis as part of the BIOS of your body. Where ever you consciousness goes(another discussion topic) it can be agreed on that your body doesn't want any accidental event occurring. I remember reading something about sleep paralysis being the result of your brain shutting off three chemicals,...grrr..., i think serotonin was one of them. pls don't quote me on that though. Sorry i couldn't give ya a cite, but check that out. I believe that is the cause of it. Not you subconscious, but a chemical thing a brain undertakes as a part of its evolutionary process as survival of the fittest.
We could speculate all day on the origination of why, I don't wanna go there. I'll get to far out there. Thats another topic.
Sleep paralysis is a normal phase of Hypnagogia.
What's more important though s that you view it in a positive manner.
Heres the wiki on it:
Humming, roaring, hissing, rushing, zapping, and buzzing noises are frequent in conjunction with sleep paralysis (SP). This happens when the REM atonia sets in sooner than usual, before the person is fully asleep, or persists longer than usual, after the person has (in other respects) fully awoken.[17] SP is reportedly very frequent among narcoleptics. It occurs frequently in about 6% of the rest of the population, and occurs occasionally in 60%.[29] In surveys from Canada, China, England, Japan and Nigeria, 20 to 60% of individuals reported having experienced SP at least once in their lifetime.[30][31] The paralysis itself is frequently accompanied by additional phenomena. Typical examples include a feeling of being crushed or suffocated, electric "tingles" or "vibrations", imagined speech and other noises, the imagined presence of a visible or invisible entity, and sometimes intense emotion: fear or euphoria and orgasmic feelings.[30][32] SP has been proposed as an explanation for at least some alien abduction experiences and shadow people hauntings.[33]
I find it entertaining how unaware the world is to this whole matter.
Oh yeah, and the whole diaphragm thing, yeah, I reached a whole new level of easily obtaining F12 when I learned to battle hyperventilation to take a couple breaths from there. I do 3 and then I can leave it to my body to take it back on autopilot. That info is pure gold to beginners.
And the ear thing, I am under the impression that it was probably you fulheartedly intending to focus on something, versus routine.
Oh, and great post Bed, I had my first rumbles the other night and wondered wtf they were. That sound was a new one on me. Thx for the insight.
Cheers,
Contenteo