The orgasmic brain

[E]

The Astral Pulse page that came up from my Google search had posts about OBE's and full body orgasms. Very interesting.  These posts were old so here's a new one.

Do you need a partner?  Imagination?  Visualization?  To be out of your body?  No to all these questions.  Although these methods work for different people, the hormone oxytocin is the key.

About a year ago I ordered a CES/NET machine from bestbrainmachines dot com.  I was not interested in increasing sensuality.  I wanted to increase my endorphines and stabilize other neurochemicals in my brain.  The machine did just that.  I am off a tranquilizer that I'd been on for years.  I am experiencing realizations at a much deeper level. 

The machine now comes with a frequency that stimulates or normalizes the oxytocin levels in the brain.  After about 15 minutes of using this frequency I began to experience the fullness of pleasure in my body (I don't want to get graphic here).  That night I experienced spontaneous orgasms.  In my experience it evened out after awhile to being empowered by it and by being free from the usual inhibitory factors that sometimes limit this empowerment.  My husband certainly enjoys the newer me.  Oxytocin is sometimes called the cuddle hormone because it can increase bonding and relationships and this is very good.  And it is permanent.

This NET frequency seems to be more empowering for women than for men.  About 40-50 percent of us.  The effect for men is less profound but can increase the bonding and decrease agressiveness.

You may have heard of TENS units.  These will not do it.  The frequencies are too low and the pulses must go through the brain.  And yes, NET is safe.

I'm not selling these machines; just telling of my experience.  You may email me if you have any questions

[personalreality]

interesting.

how can you be sure that it's only effecting your brain in the way the company describes?

[E]

Hello Jedi,

The honest answer is that I can't.  Why I decided to trust this method and take a chance on it, and we are always taking chances with our choices, arent we, was somewhat complex.

A combination of intelligence and intuition, maybe.  The long history of NET/CES, the hundreds of studies done on it which, in a nutshell, prove its worth in relaxation, insomnia, and well-being, plus its being a safe form of electrotherapy appealed to the intelligence.  It is well known to certain neuroscientists, to certain doctors of medicine, to physical therapists, to many in the field of alternative medicine.  It has a very long track record of use here in the West but even more in the East.

Inbetween intelligence and intuition I suppose you could say there is common sense.  Common sense prevents a person from being gullible.  Common sense allows one to view anything, anyone, or any claims with skepticism.  If one is clear-minded, skepticism can allow one to discern honesty from dishonesty,  truth from fiction.

It isn't possible to peek into the brains of the thousands who have used the brainmax and other machines.  The scientists will tell you it is difficult, if not impossible, to find results in blood or spinal fluid when many of the substances affected by NET do not pass the blood/brain barier.  There are, however, blood and spinal fluid conclusions about the effect of electroherapy in the enhancement and increase of endorphines and melatonin.

So we are left with a lot of anecdotal information and it is very impressive.  There are not, nor can there be any claims of healing with this machine.  That would be unlawful.  And, I would guess, unprovable.  We are also left with making a decision .

As for intuition, I simply knew in my gut that this would be good for me to use.  I 'knew', from reading his whole website word for word and contacting him that the owner of this company had altruistic as well as monetary reasons for offering his product to the public.  And finally I am left with my own anecdotal results.  I have found improvement in many ways with no adverse reactions.

  It is very possible that we do not yet understand all that is happening in the brain when electrotherapy is used.  Maybe more positive.  You DO have to be choosy about which machine you buy.  The brainmax is the best and no false claims or tricky advertising is involved.

You do your own work, make your own decision.

E

[personalreality]

i'm just leery of products that are specifically designed to directly effect the brain (i know a lot of things effect the brain).

especially hypnosis scripts and things that alter your brain chemistry (like mood drugs and the like). 

not that i would never use these products, i'm just more cautious about them than other things.

but it sounds like you didn't just jump into it, that you actually considered it.

[E]

I sure agree with that.  Caution is good and our brain is precious!

As for electrical impulses through the brain, the wave/pulses are in very small amounts.  You probably know already that without electricity, your brain and all other cells of your body would be kaput.  I would probably be willing to use electro-acupuncture too if I thought I needed it.

In a way it suprises me that some are as fearful of this type of neuroelectric therapy as they are because it has been proven to be safe and yet have no fear of the hundreds of compounds precsribed by their doctors and over the counter medications which also have effects on the brain.  I won't mention street drugs, alcohol and cigarettes to you because it sounds like you take good care of your body.  One of the best uses for neuroelectric therapy is in helping people recover from drug addiction.  It works wonders.

I, too, would be cautious of hypnosis scripts.  I would be leery that they might have subliminals beneath the voice.  But reputable hypnotists and self-hypnosis has value.  You are not 'unconcsious'.  You are not out of control.

[personalreality]

I won't mention street drugs, alcohol and cigarettes to you because it sounds like you take good care of your body.  One of the best uses for neuroelectric therapy is in helping people recover from drug addiction.  It works wonders.

haha, actually, I'm an ex-heroin (any pretty much anything I could get my hands on) addict.  the neuroelectric drug therapies are good for helping to balance brain chemistry after wards, but it doesn't do crap for actually "getting off drugs".  It's kind of like electroshock (convulsive) therapy.  A large electric shock can almost "reset" neurotransmitter production, which is one of the biggest problems with recovering addicts staying sober.  For example with opiates, you brain almost stops producing it's own serotonin and similar transmitters because the opiate takes its place in many ways.  It can take anywhere from 6 to 24 months to return to normal production.  A good shock to the brain can help a lot, thereby preventing addicts from having to go on a lot of mood drugs afterward.  They tried to get me to take Zoloft after I got off suboxone (like methadone) to balance my brain.  I took it for a couple months and then just decided I'd do better on my own.  I'm a hearty individual, never really had much in the way of "mental troubles".

but yea, i'm not healthy at all.  i eat bad and destroyed my body with drugs for years.  and i smoke.  lol.  i'm just overly cautious with my mind. 

[E]

 
Hi Jedi,

Ah, so that's who you are, lol.  S'okay.  I love ya anyway.  I'm kinda far from perfect myself!

You're right.  The NET systems don't magically make you quit anything when you don't want to.  Nothing does, hang it all.  And yes, they are valuable for balanceing the brain chemistry  for people who go off drugs.

If you take drugs you are giving the body chemical substitutes for the bodie's natural ones.  It has the effect of shutting down the brain's need for supplying you with the natural and correct amount of them.  The neural cells become dormant and after you quit the drugs the cells remain dormant.  This is why the use of the Brainmax can restore these neurochemical pathways and make recovery a LOT faster.  Have you read about the work of Meg Patterson?

There's the thing, too, about why people are drawn to drugs and alcohol in the first place.  The conditions of the world are far from perfect.  We all have unfavorable conditions that we live through and that causes a lot of stress on mind and body.  Plus all the stress involved in modern day life in the environment.  These stressors deplete the endocrine and neurotranmitter systems.  The Brainmax restores normal functioning.  Not everybody needs it.  You seem to kinda know when you do.

Enforphines are the endogeneous opium.  Dopamine is the endogenous cocaine.  Adrenaline, the endogenous amphetimine.

But boy, you bring up my caution when you lump NET with electroshock therapy.  Yikes.  Did you hear about the guy who jolted himself with a car battery and died of cardiac arrest.  That's more than throwing caution to the wind.  It's just plain stupid, however unfortunate.

I don't know if ECT is still used in mental hospitals.  I've witnessed it years ago and it produces a zombie  Care in mental hospitals is not just about treatment or housing, it is also about patient management.  ECT was used in extreme cases of unmanageability or extreme patient suffering.

Electroshock uses about 1 amp of current and it breaks apart brain cells, depression and memory.  NET uses about 1 MILLIamp, or .001 amp - pretty close to what is in the brain already - so ECT is 10,000 times as much power as NET.  (Here I'm quoting from bestbrainmachines because I couldn't remember the exact stats.)

[personalreality]

ECT is still used in extreme situations, usually with chronic depression.

But it's not as brutal as it was back in the day.  Now they sedate the patient and use electrodes attached to the body in certain places.  It's still shocking the crap out of people but it at least looks better than it used to.  Have you seen old videos of ECT?  ugh, makes me ill.

[E]

Nope.  Haven't seen films.  I'll pass.  I saw ECT administered when I was a student nurse on psych affiliation.  That was early 60's.

[catmeow]

I read this thread very quickly so apologies if I misunderstood it. The NET/CES brainmax device delivers 10ma at 20V to the scalp. I would be very cautious about delivering this sort of current to the scalp.  I quickly looked up the current used for ECT and it appears to be much higher (100X higher) and can cause brain damage. Never the less I would be very careful about using this device. I'm assuming it's battery operated. If it were mains operated then it would almost certainly be illegal, because of the possibility of an electrical fault delivering the full mains voltage to the scalp (110/240V).

Here is an article listing the safety issues for a variety of currents applied to the body. Remember the brainmax delivers 10ma to the brain. 60-70ma can be lethal according to the following website:

http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/JackHsu.shtml

[E]

Hi Catsmeow,

Yes, it is battery operated.  Two little AA's enclosed in a small CD player.  The type of CD player used is important; It delivers the correct amount of current.  If you took the Brainmax itself, the little black box, and hooked it up to a big, powerful stereo, you would get a zap.  The 10 ma you quote is not continuous.  It pulses for about 10% of the time and is off for 10 times that long.  The Hz frequencies are played on a CD in a CD player and the electrodes are placed on the head to deliver a very small amount of therapeutic electricity, about the same amount that is within the brain itself.  It has absolutely no comparison to ECT.

If you take the therapeutic index of anything - aspirin, water, anything, and multiply it by even 1000X you are going to be hurt by it. The brainmax is very safe, very legal and does not hurt you.  It has the biggest safety margin of any therapy out there.

The therapeutic index is 1000/1.  It is really moot whether ECT is 1000 times or 10,000 stronger current than NET.  ECT will hurt you.  NET will not.   You could not stand it if the CES/NET units delivered too much current.  It would be painful and you would rip the thing off.

"60-70 ma can be lethal according to....."  But of course.  That's 6-7 times stronger than NET and it dependes on how that electricity is delivered and at what frequency.

Bottom line is, though, if you don't trust something, don't use it.  No one is asking you to.  Thousands upon thousands of people have, including me with no side effects and some really great results.

[johnpineal]

I was asked to clarify a misunderstanding concerning current levels and the NET machine that I produce and sell, the Brainmax. Since I am the manufacturer and wish to refrain from promoting or any other action which may be prohibited by the rules of this forum I will restrict myself to that areas of the debate unless others wish to know additional information.

First the question of whether there is a dangerous level of electricity is pretty moot since the Brainmax s designed to send current to the brain and not to the heart. When figures of 70 ma being a fatal level they are referring to placing at least one electrode right against the heart if not in contact with the heart.

70 ma won't actually destroy a persons heart. It will actually only put a heart into fibrillation. http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2000/JackHsu.shtml Then the person will die lack of oxygen if their heart is not quickly shocked again into proper functioning. To actually outright kill a person with a shock the best figures I can locate are those used in electric chair executions. They use at least 7 amps (7000 ma) to kill a person. http://hypertextbook.com/facts/AprilDunetz.shtml

Our current levels are always less than 5 ma. When it is a common frequency like 100 Hz it is only on about 1/10 of the time. So the actual average current is less than .5 ma. And again it is no where the near the heart.

God gave us a safety feature as well. As an electric shock approaches 20 ma it really hurts. That is why electricity is used for torture. So a person will turn off the electricity or do whatever they need to in order to tear off the electrodes long before it gets to 70 ma.

Now there are some devices like EMS Electrical Muscle stimulation which do pass current through the heart a lots of it. NET devices like the Brainmax are very anemic by comparison to these machines. The current on a typical EMS device adjusts from 0 to 80 or from 0 to 90 ma. That even goes above the 70 ma threshold and I have no idea how they get away with it. But if you wish to worry about a machine causing heart attacks then EMS machines are certainly more qualified prospects for your attention than are NET devices.

If you have any other questions then I would be glad to answer them. I have a wealth of information in this field. I'm certainly not limited to discussing this one machine.

[catmeow]

Thanks E and johnpineal. I was just alerting users to the possible safety implications.  I'm not wishing to rain on anyone's parade.  It's up to users to decide whether or not to use this device.

First the question of whether there is a dangerous level of electricity is pretty moot since the Brainmax s designed to send current to the brain and not to the heart.

So passing current through the brain is less dangerous than passing it through the heart?  Not sure about that one.  I still don't know what the safe current levels are for passing a continuous alternating current through the scalp.

There is still a huge debate about the safety of mobile phones. These generate an electrical field which both heats the brain and induces a minute electrical current in it.  The BrainMax I'm sure has a more powerful effect than a mobile phone, since the current levels are much higher. Many people think that mobile phones are not safe.

God gave us a safety feature as well. As an electric shock approaches 20 ma it really hurts

So if it doesn't hurt it's safe?  So poison is safe?  X-ray radiation is safe?  Nuclear radiation is safe?  Mobile phones are safe?

I believe that caution is advised, but it is up to the individual. One good point (thanks E) is that the BrainMax is not mains powered. A battery powered device is less likely to be dangerous. But you really can't be sure.  If you like the effect and you aren't bothered about my cautions, then use it!

My "interest" is that I once researched EEG devices in order to try bio-feedback.  The cheapest available was the BrainMaster.  That's how I know that in the UK there is legislation about attaching any electrical device to the scalp.  

The BrainMaster? an interesting but expensive device.  Can be used for bio-feedback and may achieve much the same as hemi-sync. I was interested in establishing the EEG patterns which might be helpful to OBE:

http://bio-medical.com/products/at125w.html

Oh and I just noticed there is a footnote on that link which says that the BrainMaster can only be sold to licensed practitioners..... It attaches to the scalp (like the BrainMax) but has the disclaimer that it can only be sold to and used by licensed clinical practitioners (whatever one of those is!).  Go figure...

[Xanth]

Just wanted to jump in here and add a disclaimer. 

The Astral Pulse doesn't endorse the use of anything mechanical mentioned in this thread

Ok, you may continue. 

[E]

CES/NET (Brainmax) is not poison, x-ray radiation, nuclear radiation, or a cell phone.

A machine that is designed to record brain wave patterns, like an electroencephalogram, is entirely different than a machine which introduces Hz frequency patterns through the brain.  The BrainMaster is designed to be sold to professionals (mostly) because they can interpret the readings given out.  I can't read an EEG.  Can you?

Dr. Meg Patterson, the pioneer of the use of cerebro-electric-stimulation (as it is called in the UK) did a lot of her work in the UK.

[johnpineal]

I'd like to lay this conversation to rest.

The actual power that a brain produces is 5- 12 watts depending on the reference source. This is literally 240 times the maximum power that the Brainmax produces which is about 50 mw (.05 watt).

The difference is that the Brainmax produces a single harmonious frequency while the brain doesn't. That small but harmonious single frequency is enough to influence the brain and elicit the phenomenal responses that NET/CES machines have been known to regularly produce.

This is another way of looking at it.

The typical ECT (Electroconvulsive therapy) machine produces .8-.9 amp or 800-900 ma which is ten times the .70 amp it takes to put a heart into fibrillation. It is also at least a thousand times what the brainmax produces. http://www.ect.org/resources/machines.html

I think what people really need to know is that the low level of electricity produced by NET/CES (Neural Electric Therapy/Cranial Electrical Stimulation) is healing and not disruptive or destructive in any manner. 

The big difference is that the small amount of electrical current is healing while a large amount like with ECT is disruptive. But that is true with nearly any beneficial thing isn't it?.

One glass of water will save you from dying of thirst while ten glasses of water can cause intoxication. Two asprin with get rid of a headache while one hundred can kill a person. Yet it takes a 1000 times the amount of healing electricity that the Brainmax produces in order to harm a person (and most authorities still debate as to whether or not ECT is harmful).

I'd like to thank everyone involved in this conversation. This information needs to be on our bestbrainmachines.com web site as it is quite pertinent and I do appreciate your help in bringing it to my attention. It will go on my website almost immediately. Thanks again.

[personalreality]

appreciated.