Can anyone help me on what I'm doing wrong?

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Jay16

I've been trying to astral project for a month now and last night think I came very close but I chickened out :/ lol. So first I woke up early wasn't really tired but I wanted to sleep some more but then I thought to try an AP.. I wasn't really trying hard tho like I do at night I just let my thoughts stop and then i went into sleep paralysis I heard these cool warping noises and while this was happening it was like a saw a static tv screen then it all stoped I was able to see and I started to panic cause I felt like I was stuck I started to panic and tried to ask for help ... When I did that I heard someone say "he's trying to scream" (I don't know if I was just hearing things or what?) but when I heard that I calmed down I was trying to say "bring me back I'm not ready" then the static tv came back and the warping noises came back and something that sounded like a crash and I woke up from this um .. Almost experiance ? Lol

So I understand that I freeked out and that's something I should not have done but if I almost had a AP why did I get stuck ?

Szaxx

Having any fears including the thought of being stuck is enough to reduce the chances of success. These instant thoughts create doubts in your ability and they manifest. So thinking you were stuck and not liking the sensation caused fear to raise its ugly head.
You must try again at full speed. If you cannot move at all, say "meh, its part of the process".
It goes away when you are phased into the new reality. During your first few experiences, you're going to get all sorts of wierd and wonderful feelings. Moving around freely takes some getting used to. Lets face it, in the physical if you suddenly found yourself 1000 feet up hovering, thats a permant one way trip down, no more physical on impact. You can't fly naturally and falling is the only option.
However doing this in the NP is fine, or is it? How can you move freely if you've never done it before? See the point, you have to learn a new set of rules that are so different from the physics you know.
This applies at the door to the NP before you see any action.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

deepspace

My experience has been that the less sleep I've had before attempted AP, the more intense and difficult the transition is. Trying it later on makes the transition easier and smoother, just more manageable in general. I've gotten past a lot of the fear, it's just that the high intensity and neck snapping acceleration are too much if I try it to early. I don't make any attempts before having 6 hours of sleep minimum. Don't know if that's the same for everyone, but that's how it works for me.
It's all a dream
Light passing by on the screen

Lionheart

 Don't ever downplay the importance of "fear". There's a saying that "Fear grips you". That's true but it also freezes you (shock) and makes you run as well. You MUST learn to handle that fear. It WILL impede every attempt until you do.

Here is great video to introduce to the dos and don'ts, ins and outs of AP. If you don't want to watch the entire thing, at least listen to the part on "Fear" starting at 1:00:00 and going until 1:07:00.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRar8IOwic8&feature=BFa&list=PLEB923BB17E5849A3&lf=plpp_video

Szaxx

@ Deepspace you actually get 6 hours sleep each night?
Wow Im jealous
:-D
I get around 5 most nights...
My recall as a result is atrocious. :-(
Everything shuts down including most of the daytime 'info packets of data' I'd normally recieve.
For anyone learning it's advisable to get plenty of sleep to start with. If nothing else you'll find dream recall improves greatly.
It doesn't affect your NP performance as the snippets I can remember are still the usual thing. At present I'm doing what I can to get more sleep and its begining to work. 7.5 hours is optimum
This opens the door anytime apart from morning.
Its worth mentioning to those attempting, too little and you crash out with no recall, too much and it makes things more difficult to get into trance although you do recall the fidgety frustration.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

deepspace

Quote from: Szaxx on March 17, 2014, 17:53:57
@ Deepspace you actually get 6 hours sleep each night?
Wow Im jealous
:-D
I get around 5 most nights...
My recall as a result is atrocious. :-(
Everything shuts down including most of the daytime 'info packets of data' I'd normally recieve.
For anyone learning it's advisable to get plenty of sleep to start with. If nothing else you'll find dream recall improves greatly.
It doesn't affect your NP performance as the snippets I can remember are still the usual thing. At present I'm doing what I can to get more sleep and its begining to work. 7.5 hours is optimum
This opens the door anytime apart from morning.
Its worth mentioning to those attempting, too little and you crash out with no recall, too much and it makes things more difficult to get into trance although you do recall the fidgety frustration.

Wow, that's hard to manage on 5 hours a night. I find that more sleep makes transition easy and recall improves. But the depth, quality, stability and length of the experience can start to lack after around 7 hours. A good compromise for me is to purposely limit myself to 5 hours for no more than 2 nights in a row. Then the third night go for the AP after about 7 hours of sleep. That's often a good way for me to combine an easier transition and deeper high quality experience. If I want the high-end detail, color and touch, I can't go in too late. In the past I went in earlier, but it was really hard to manage the steep transition and "rough-ride" intensity. But when I made it, it was long and super high-end. My success rate was just too low so I decided to go in later. I am still fairly new to this so still experimenting to see what works. Everyone is different but that's how it's been working for me.

Quote from: Lionheart on March 17, 2014, 17:33:39
Don't ever downplay the importance of "fear". There's a saying that "Fear grips you". That's true but it also freezes you (shock) and makes you run as well. You MUST learn to handle that fear. It WILL impede every attempt until you do.

Not to disagree. I do agree that fear is a real deal breaker, but I think it's also important to point out that there's a shock factor sometimes just from the rapid change and intensity. It's not scary per say, just makes you jump. Like if someone tells you they are going to pretend to hit you in the face, but not actually do it. So you see if you can keep from blinking. You are not afraid, but you jump back a little reflexively.

I've heard blood-curdling screams, really loud glass breaking, full-volume stereo rock and roll music, going from blank screen visually to Jared Loughner's face in less a second. All of sudden those eyes right in my face just jerked me out. It was just a reflex. It didn't scare me, it wasn't fear, but the sheer acceleration of 0 to Loughner in 1 second  was too much for me to hold on.

I find that this sort of thing is more common if you go in early, which I sometimes do just for the experience and see if I can stay on the ride. It also good practice. The only way to get through these things is to keep doing it until you get more used it. You will still have times where it freaks you out. But that's good because it means you have more intensity you can still grow into.
It's all a dream
Light passing by on the screen

Astralzombie

Lion is speaking from the fact that the majority of people who fail to Ap do so out of fear.

There is rational fear, the kind that can keep you alive in a war zone and irrational fear, the kind that can keep you from having an amazing experience because you are unaccustomed to or unfamiliar with the natural process of having an AP.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Mark Twain

deepspace

#7
Unfortunately, I have a lot of experience with fear so I am intimately familiar with it. Made a lot of progress overcoming it too, mainly through a lot of hard work. But there's really only one way out when it comes to fear: if you want to grow you have push beyond your comfort zone.

Don't allow fear to become a barrier, you will lose out if you do.

I would encourage everyone to move in the direction of overcoming their fears, even if you can only take small steps. Fear really is the main obstacle to living at the highest level.



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