My first post (about me/questions)

[fredhedd]

i thought that when you projected that the mind split automatically occured.  i'll have to check again but i don't see how projection would be possible w/out making the mind-split.

after meditating or being in trance for a while i will see a strobe effect too.  it's still there when i open my eyes.  i always thought it was part of you still getting used to coming back to the physical.  similar to how it's easy to be zoned out during the first few waking hours of the day.  still lost in distraction and maybe thinking about the dream you just had.  i connected the actual visual effect w/ whatever the atmosphere was of wherever i was just at.  maybe i'm misunderstanding and you are talking about an actual light that you see.

anything that isn't physical that you 'see', you are perceiving w/ something other than your eyes.  if your third eye is what you are using it won't make a difference if you open your eyes or not.  sometimes while meditating i can see right though  my eyelids and the room that i'm in.  once i could see it so clearly that i thought i had my eyes open.  i had to blink a few times to see the difference.  this was before i read ad and was the event that took me to the bookstore to find out what just happened.

[sublime]

I could swear I read towards the beginging of ad that if you were experiencing those symptoms that you were most likely successful in projecting but you just failed to make the mind split. I could be wrong but I know those feelings i get are extremely strong at times yet I'm still in the physical.


I have too experienced seeing through closed eyes a couple times. haha i also saw very clear once and I was sure my eyes were open until i actually opened them and realized they werent.

[sublime]

Hi everyone,
  My name is Mike. I'm new to this post yet old to experiencing OBE's. (Well kind of). When I was young, I would always have (what i thought) were terrible nightmares where I would be paralyzed in my bed and then feel a strong presence floating directly to my upper right area. Sometimes, I would find myself just above my body but I never actually would be looking down upon myself. I am now aware of what I think these sensations were thanks to a friend who is very interested in the topic and introduced me to it last year. I am about halfway through Astral Dynamics and am enjoying it! I am now having difficulties projecting yet I still have the symptoms (vibrations, racing heart beat etc...)
  One of my questions is this... If I am successfully projecting but unsuccessfully making what Robert refers to as the "Mind-Split" does anyone have any suggestions to the best techniques that work for them to make this split?
    Secondly, I would like to note that sometimes while attempting to project or enter a trance state in bed, I will all of a sudden feel as if I'm starting to fall asleep and then I'll see a strobe light effect while my eyes are closed (I read about this on page 185 but I am just now working with NEW so I was unsure as to why this would happen when I really haven't worked with my energy that much). One time I actually opened my eyes when I saw this strobe like light and it was still there when I opened my eyes. Any ideas?
    I apologize for the lenghthy post but I just wanted to introduce myself and give you some questions to help me with... Thank you in advance!