weee getting closer

[Eagle of Light]

Hello!

tonight I had a weird experience that let me think I'm getting closer to OBE:

journal entry 3:16 am  
I lay down with no intention to OBE, only to sleep. For some reason, I feel in peace and I spontaneously express my gratitude to the guides who follow me (usually I express this after meditation or projection attempt). Then after some time, I cannot fall asleep, keep moving in my bed and at last fall asleep at around 2:30-3:00 am, exhausted.
I dream that I sit in a classroom. Strange enough, all people around me resolved to annoy me. They keep laughing at me or push me, that's veryyy boring. I feel more and more exhausted, so much that at one point I decide to stand up and go away. I actually walk no more than 3 or 4 seconds. CLICK. I find myself laying down face down. I do feel I float in a void and I begin to sink slowly but surely in a downward and biased movement. God, the feeling is so real !! I suddenly realize I am having an OBE in my room. I say/hear something like "ready? now, turn back and go away to complete the projection". So I do and feel like doing a vertical loop on myself (head forward) and in the middle of the move... nooo I wake up    As I open the eyes, my vision describes short and fast circular movements before stabilizing, as if I had done the move physically! I understand this to be the consequence of a sudden return to waking position.

I switched on the light, feeling refreshed and excited by the experience
After adding an entry to my journal, I went back to sleep. I noticed like a continuous low-pitch sound in my right ear, that pulsated according to heartbeat. I fell asleep while hearing it.

Think I'm getting closer isn't it? I would have been so happy if I had not woke up and completed the projection!

A few days before I had some similar experience (but the feelings were not so real). Again, I said/heard "ready?" and I felt I was doing a loop on myself, again more a vertical loop than horizontal (head first), that's weird.
Both times, I had the inspiration it was done this way to make me lose spacial awareness even more, and consequently body awareness. (Last time, i completed the loop and flapped my arms like a bird to go up LOL - then woke up shortly after)

Anyone with similar experience ? What should I do not to wake up during the loop?

Also, what is this low pitch sound in the right ear? should I focus on it and try to re-induce OBE?

Thanks for any comment!

Yours,
Eagle of Light

[Eagle of Light]

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seems like classic OBE tends to be old-fashion. The future is Phasing  

[Giselle]

I enjoyed reading your post.  I'd be happy to have ANY type of experience!!!  But, I'm not giving up.

[upstream]

For some reason, I feel in peace and I spontaneously express my gratitude to the guides who follow me (usually I express this after meditation or projection attempt). [...] I say/hear something like "ready? now, turn back and go away to complete the projection" [...] I noticed like a continuous low-pitch sound in my right ear, that pulsated according to heartbeat.

It seems like you were triggered from outside. I mean by something that is outside of your current self. It could be either another person or your Higher or future (more exactly, your potential) self. Anyway, it's quite a method so I'd keep with it as long as it gives results.

What should I do not to wake up during the loop?

Don't do the loop, lol. Try to roll out instead.

Also, what is this low pitch sound in the right ear? should I focus on it and try to re-induce OBE?

Definitely, it's an excellent method, I can assure you.

[Leannain]

i have the same question

"Also, what is this low pitch sound in the right ear? should I focus on it and try to re-induce OBE?"

i hear that allot,very high it hurts my ear sometimes

[Eagle of Light]

Hello

Thank you Giselle. I understand what you mean, I cannot count how many times I envied other ppl experiences...    

I'm quite excited by all that is happening now. The first day the subject caught my interest was more than 10 years ago! But there was lots of fear around the subject, so much that I kept limiting myself to feeling the ecstatic feelings of expansion toward a 3D blackness times and again, with sometimes the heart chakra setting off. But never really more to be noticed, no vibrations, no visualizations, no lucid dream, ... even daring to read the first book on the subject came much lately!

In my understanding, what seemed to trigger the experiences was:
- reaching a good grounding and having fun (funny enough, seems to me that the more you are "well on Earth" the more you feel ok to focus away). My move a few days ago to the UK might have played a role
- changing my fear-based beliefs around the subject thanks to author Robert Bruce, and more importantly Robert Monroe's second book and this forum AstralPulse *so* rich in useful posts.
- setting a *real* (at last!) intention to manifest experiences : I recently began working with Hemi-Sync Discovery CD. Also, I decided to join Gateway Voyage (if all goes well, I should attend the next session on 1st October ).
- setting a 30-days goal to have my first lucid dream before Gateway Voyage : I began 8 days ago a quotidian lucid dream training based on a great Stephen Laberge's book (apart from a childhood experience that could be considered as a mid-way lucid dream/OBE that freaked me out as I realized I was dreaming in my bed and felt going upwards above my bed -- but that was not a full lucid dream nor a full OBE, and never happened again)
- accepting that imagination acts as a pump to real experiences. Frank's post in Permanent Topics and the amazing Bruce Moen's first book have been of great influence.
- feeling gratitude for guidance and for whatever comes, opening to the experience, avoiding resistance and dissatisfaction (I think this might be the most important factor).

...and surprise! On Saturday morning (day four) I had this experience I reported above (I cant remember for the previous one, it was a few days before but did not impress me so much despite it had similarities). Yesterday in the morning (day eight), I did my first Reality-Check in a dream, I was so happy   Unfortunately in my dream, the text I was trying to read twice was an old text dirty and hardly visible  
This morning (day nine) I had another nice experience    I dreamed
that I was having an OBE and was trying to find someone flying easily through an office (kind of open-space). To get a greater overview I decide to fly higher and look down to search him. CLICK. I feel that I begin to sink and immediately realize that I'm in bed having a similar experience than the previous one. This time, I say/hear nothing and do not attempt any loop. Instead I find myself still flying but funny enough I am no more in control of the move. A kind of unseen force makes me move slowly and smoothly, I do feel the move, and my vision is restricted to a disk. My body and my head dont move. So my viewpoint could be likened to the one you would get if you would put a camera below a balloon gently floating. But god, the view is *so* real ! The colors are *so* much realistic and vivid!   I spectate this beautiful furniture in the room below me, while letting me being derived. After around 1 minute, the move changes of direction and after some inertia I begin to float backward. I see that I'm going to go through a wall and think "first time I cross a wall - this should be ok" and indeed I cross it with no issue. Shortly after...I wake up  

Hope this might help you. Seems like "real-life" pleasure, intention, goal-setting and satisfaction-no-matter-what have real influence. But I'm really a beginner, I still cannot say I had a real OBE nor a real lucid dreaming.  All this is very new to me and I dont know how this is going to evolve in the next days. I just notice and enjoy the fact that things suddenly seem to "unlock" in me around the subject and that's it is worth the efforts (dream journal, practice, etc)


upstream, yes I do agree with you. I believe more and more to guidance.
I think it's worth trusting it, again starting with imagination.
And you're right about the loop ! That's pretty stupid to trying such a thing !! If this happens again, I'll try to remember and apply your advice.

About the low pitch sound, you think it might help? This morning after the experience I could not hear it. It happened only once to me...

i hear that allot,very high it hurts my ear sometimes

Leannain, do you mean that you too hear a sound in the same ear or does it vary?

Many thanks

Yours,
Eagle of Light
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[upstream]

"Absorbing attention in the inner noise field" is my favorite method for OBEing. It's good for silencing the mind and giving auto-suggestions too. Nada yogis say that your should avoid to concentrate on noises that come from your left side, yet I never hear them other than in the center of my head.

Through this holy noise you perceive and control your own brain and consciousness. I believe the more you're able to absorb your mind in this noise field the more control you have on your brain. Generally, low piched noises are good for deepening sleep while high pitched noises are for keep your consciousness intact. As for OBEs, I can estimate my chance of success by sampling the noise during the day. Also, when I'm close enough I try to switch paralyisis on by getting out of the way of and letting some pulsating hars noises that break into my mind. In a latent form they are always present and I often seek for ways to lock my attention on them.

Apparently you are well on your way! I don't want you to rely only on good luck which of course I wish you. Let your coherence increase and your enthusiasm never stop!

>>> upstream

[Giselle]

Eagle,

I think I've picked up some points in your post that apply to me.  I think I am sabotaging myself lately by thinking negatively instead of "setting a real intention."  I'm going to try to lighten up a little about it all also.

I hope you do get to go to Gateway.  I went through the Gateway program three years ago and then last year I did the Lifelines program at Monroe.  You will enjoy Gateway, especially with your mindset.  This was all new to me when I went.  I actually decided to try to have an OBE to disprove some religious indoctrination from my youth and one day decided to Google OBE's which brought me to the Monroe site.  I signed up that day.

I got further in this process at Gateway than I have since and have almost decided to go take Gateway again.  The Lifelines program was a little too "advanced" for the progress I had made, but hearing the incredible experiences others were having was well worth being there even though I didn't get much further with it all.  

I hope it works out for you to go next month.  Can't wait to hear all about it.

Giselle

[jay dawg]

i was using a hemisync MP3 to induce a wild once, and it felt like something was trying to push its way into my right ear. it reminded me of bill and ted when they used their spirits and jumped into ppls ears and posessed them! i have only felt this once in my ear. a couple of other times, i have heard very loud ringing. i suck at OBE and WILDS

[Eagle of Light]

Hello!

upstream,
that sounds very interesting to be able to induce OBE this way.
But I'm not sure to understand how you proceed. Do you mean that you trigger sleep paralysis as you focus on the sound? Laying in my bed yesterday evening, I heard it but don't know how to handle it. Should the volume increase in your head and turn into OBE vibrations? Do you visualize something at the same time?

Also, I noticed something new since I experienced this sound. Yesterday, I was listening to some good music quite loudly with headphones. As I stopped the music, I heard the same low-pitch sound in the same ear and pulsating along with heartbeat. It surprised me because I usually don't get this. After 1 min, this faded. As I was not sure if this is the same sound I usually hear after listening to loud music, I continued to listen music. After a while, I stopped the music and noticed the same pulsating sound in the right ear. Then as it faded, I heard a (weaker) continuous high-pitch sound instead, in the middle of the brain, which I recognized indeed to be the normal after-effect induced by loud song (you know, the song you hear for some time after you come back from a dance party).

So, do you think that the inner song (what you call the holy noise) could be induced by external music? Have you ever noticed this?

Giselle,
nice to hear about your experience of the institute. I will definitely let you know about my experience there (registration still pending).

jay,
according to your experience and what we said, there seems to be a real relationship between the right ear and OBE. That's weird, I've never read about this in literature...?


Yours,
Eagle of Light

[jay dawg]

guess what. i used some LD induction MP3 lastnight and i felt the right ear thing again! i went with it this time and i think i kinda lost consciousness but then woke up more because i heard/felt myself starting to snore, or something. i dont snore in real life so.... not sure what happened but it woke me up a bit.