There is only one thing I'm afraid of in astral

[phobe]

quote:Physical existance on earth one of these traps, and not even death can save you if you dont have enough energy.

Wow. That's an incredible concept. I've been working on spiritual enlightenment for a while and that is something that has never occurred to me, yet entirely makes sense. If it can happen in the astral realm, why not in the physical? Wow, thanks.

[beavis]

You can thank Carlos Castaneda for that concept. I read it and it made sense to me also.

"If it can happen in the astral realm, why not in the physical?"

Physical is in astral. Anything that can happen in astral can happen here, but it takes more energy because the physical section has high energy density.

[TorosDead]

Hm, not really sure what you are talking about, but haven't experienced or heard of anything like it up untill now.  Explore!  "Fear is the mind killer.  Face your fears and let them pass through you."

[beavis]

"haven't experienced or heard of anything like it up untill now"

If they get stuck, how would they come back to tell you?

"Face your fears and let them pass through you."

I tried that about being stuck on earth, but I am still stuck here.

[beavis]

Its already happened at least once to me, and I'm still feeling its effects many years later. I didnt and still dont have enough energy to escape it for more than a short time. I suspect many of you have fallen into the same trap. A place exists that is so distracting that you must have a lot of energy to pay attention to something else. You will stay there until you gain enough energy to free yourself. Physical existance on earth one of these traps, and not even death can save you if you dont have enough energy. What I'm afraid of in astral is that I could come to a place thats fun at first but gets extremely boring and takes more energy to leave than earth. We're at one of the lowest energy levels. There must be places with higher exit energy requirements. I could be stuck there for thousands of years.

I am very scared of that, and it almost certainly will happen again, but I wont stay in one trap to avoid a different trap. I will continue OBEing as often as I can, but will be very careful what I intend to do. My spirits freedom is a trillion times more valuable than my life. I cant afford to lie to myself about anything (most important in OBE) because I choose my path in the universe.