Experiences on the Journey to AP

[Ellury]

I would like to begin sharing my attempts and experiences trying to AP here.. Kind of a a journal, I guess. Any advice would be appreciated as I progress on this journey. If you have any questions about me or would just like to talk, I would be more than willing to have conversations with you guys! : ) Thanks for any help and all help in the future. <3

First off a little about me. I generally sleep 10-12 hours, any less than that and I have a hard time lasting through out the day. If I take a nap.. well that usually turns out to be 5-8 hours. It takes me 5-30 mins to fall asleep depending on how tired I am. So, continuing to last night, I wanted to try and AP. I know exactly how to keep my mind from falling asleep, at least fully. I laid on my back and with the intent to "switch my consciousness" to my astral self. It was pretty difficult to fight off the thoughts that tend to override my conscious thoughts as my body begins to fall asleep and at one point my thoughts just stop completely. So, it felt like nothingness, I wasn't aware of my body or that I had a body nor was I aware that I could think.... very strange feeling. So, I woke up from this state and was like "oh yeah...I was suppose to be doing something" and as my brain began to shift back into gear. I again repeated through the steps until I ended back in that feeling of nothingness. The only thing I feel like im aware of in that state is blackness, its like not emotion, no physical feeling and no thought.. just blackness. I did all of that once more before I just gave up, rolled off and went to my normal habits of falling asleep.

[Ellury]

Has anyone ever felt like they have stopped breathing whilst trying to AP? Is that normal? I mean do you even breath in the astral : P?

[Lionheart]

 The problem here is that yes, you created a strong NP (Non Physical) focus, but then lost it long enough to check back in on what your body was doing.

When you go to sleep, your lungs keep working. You are not consciously aware of that fact. The same goes when you are attempting to AP.

In other words, you were basically teetering on a physical and NP focus. Had you have ALLOWED yourself to let go of your physical focus completely, you would have had a successful AP.

I know this to be true because in the beginning it happened often to me. I would actually almost hyperventilate when I once again became consciously aware of my breathing while deep in a AP attempt.

Good news though. It gets better the more you practice maintaining a deep NP focus. 

[Ellury]

Yeah! I tried really hard to ignore it. I knew I was breathing, but I couldn't feel it, so my body was freaking out and my heart started to race.

[Lionheart]

Yeah! I tried really hard to ignore it. I knew I was breathing, but I couldn't feel it, so my body was freaking out and my heart started to race.

That's perfectly understandable. But like I said, it does get better with time. 

[Ellury]

I know I tried to AP last night and I know that I decided to go to sleep, but I can't remember anything that actually happened while I was trying... I did end up dreaming about surfing during the night with the moon and star filled sky and being ask by one of the surf buddies to be a copilot to a plane. I remember telling the person, that I had no idea how to fly a plane and they just said. "I have a filling you'll catch on quickly"

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I'm always physically aware of my body while APing. Doesn't affect me at all, except I feel the separation of my bodies differently than most people do.

[Ellury]

I'm always physically aware of my body while APing. Doesn't affect me at all, except I feel the separation of my bodies differently than most people do.

How do you feel differently? I mean what's the differenece?


Ok, so last night experience, I was having a hard time keeping my eyes shut. They just kept opening by themselves except I couldn't really see anything, just a super blurred light from the fire alarm on one side and a super blurred light from the window on the other. I was trying to do that "Noticing" exercise. I kept closing my eyes back, the only reasons i knew they were open were because of the lights, but they would sneak back open. After like an 30 mins or so of laying there I stopped putting so much effort into it and started feeling cold chills through out my body... kind of like vibrations.. but super cold.  These lasted for 10 mins before I rolled over to try something else, which just ended up putting me to sleep and almost forgetting everything.

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How do you feel differently? I mean what's the differenece?


Ok, so last night experience, I was having a hard time keeping my eyes shut. They just kept opening by themselves except I couldn't really see anything, just a super blurred light from the fire alarm on one side and a super blurred light from the window on the other. I was trying to do that "Noticing" exercise. I kept closing my eyes back, the only reasons i knew they were open were because of the lights, but they would sneak back open. After like an 30 mins or so of laying there I stopped putting so much effort into it and started feeling cold chills through out my body... kind of like vibrations.. but super cold.  These lasted for 10 mins before I rolled over to try something else, which just ended up putting me to sleep and almost forgetting everything.

Well, based on how most people on this forum describe it, they say it's more of a switch o consciousness. For me, it literally feels as if two bodies are separating.

[Ellury]

Well, based on how most people on this forum describe it, they say it's more of a switch o consciousness. For me, it literally feels as if two bodies are separating.

I've seen lost of people describe it like that and other describe it as the lather. I tried going at it from both perspectives, but I don't know yet what it'll be for me.

[Ellury]

I tried to AP last night with the intention of basically asking for a chance to do something.. I guess what I meant by this was really anything honestly. A part of me like challenges and to be thrown out into the unknown, so I was hoping that I would get some sort of response. After  a while of laying there, I got the biggest urge to itch my face, I swear.. it was the most intense urge ever XD so I ignored it of course, and more itchy places surfaced on my different areas of my face, but I kept ignoring them. I was determined to stay still and keep focused on my intention, needless to say I got tired and went to sleep and had a few neat dreams, but only remembered one and logged it in my dream journal.

Edit: these past 3 or 4 nights I haven't been sleeping well. I keep waking up super early and tossing and turning a lot. Today I kept repeatedly waking up every hour to thirty mins.

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I've seen lost of people describe it like that and other describe it as the lather. I tried going at it from both perspectives, but I don't know yet what it'll be for me.

I wouldnt worry about what the seperation feels like so much right now. Just do it, and you will know when it happens. Its kind if hard to explain, but sometimes its better just not to think about it and to just do it. Thats one of the things that held me back when i first started astral work.

[Ellury]

Started to slack a little on logging these down!

So I was trying to do that one thing where you put the intent to project somewhere close to your body. In this case I went with the window since its on the other side of the room. I dozed off and woke up and continued trying, to which I dozed off again, I must have been dreaming about still trying to AP though because my cousin came running into the room (he is a 2 years old) And my first thoughts upon waking were "Dang, I almost projected." After running my cousin out of the room, I laid down confused. I was like "Hold on a moment.. when did I almost project.. I was sleeping." but being too tired, I just went back to sleep.