time travel to change past events and future trauma

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blidge

Hi, now this question/suggestion may have already been aired on here but i cant find it, so here goes.

I ve read various posts over the years on time travel, different realms, space travel, alien meetings etc, but is time travel actually possible?
possible to the point as to influence the past to change the future for one self?.NO, well i havent achieved this but if and when the time comes that ive been able to have an ootb far more frequently and have longer astral experiences then i may be able to progress to that, till then im posing a thought which id like some feedback on.

While in the astral realm im guessing certain techniques are used for those of you that have time travelled in order to achieve this. so my thought is that if your able to time travel is it then possible to travel back in time to ones child hood? to be the child of then in a certain situation that at the time may have caused some kind of trauma. what i mean by this is think of a time when you were younger or in adulthood that had a real negative effect on you where the mental scares are still prevalent today, and be able to relive those same events but have the sight of mind knowing that you are re experiencing this event to try and change the outcome, is it possible?

If it were there are many times that i would like to go back to and then see how i would feel if events took a different turn,and then see what thoughts id have and if i had changed having relived the events with the events being non traumatic.

Any thoughts?  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Perception is everything, because you think you see it, does it mean its true?

Astralzombie

This is really weird but I just got done making a post where I was talking about an exit strategy that I came to on my own. I didn't go into a lot of detail but I'll put it here for you and then explains some more.

--The second way I get ready to project is that I recall a very painful conversation that I had with an ex. With my inner voice, I begin the conversation exactly as I remember it happening each time and then listen to her exact response as I remember it but I do not say it with my own inner voice, I'm just listening to her. Then I say the things that I should have said and as this conversation is playing out the way I wished it had, I suddenly become aware that I'm no longer visualizing it but I'm actually experiencing it. I tell her good-bye and then I'm off.--

I'm still feeling freaky at how relevant this is to your question. Doing this technique has ABSOLUTELY helped me get passed that part of my life. The first couple of times, after I projected directly into this conversation with her, I knew her responses were all from me since she was just a projection of my own mind. This was helpful enough by itself. I'm not sure how many times I had done this but It was to the point that as soon as I realized I had projected, I would say good-bye and leave to explore. But Something was different one time and I noticed that it was her clothes and she had a new haircut. Well that's what I noticed at first. What really caught my attention was her responses because I had never imagined them to be so much in my favor. I don't know how, but I'm positive that I pulled her astral self in and worked it out with her. No, we are not back together and I actually haven't seen her or talked to her in the physical since we first went our own ways. But a month after that OBE a mutual friend of ours said she said to tell me hello. I wanted to ask her about my ex's hair but didn't want to sound like a stalker. After that time, I've had a lot of closure.

WOW. I hope this answers some part of your question because  being able to help someone else is another testament to the good of the NPR. Thanks for your post.


It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Mark Twain

Xanth

It's not "time travel" perse... it's not like you can travel back in time to physically change events.

Events have happened and can't be changed.  This is one of the lessons for living in this physical reality that one must accept.

You can, however, view past events.  This is what people experience.

Astralzombie

I was gonna say something like Xanth said but I forgot since I was feeling giddy. I definitely don't believe you will be able to change the events in any fashion but if you're ready to put some hard work into it, you can probably change the way you feel. I doubt you will ever forget the events but you may lose the trauma. Your initial feelings will always be there but in time, you may also be able to recall the "better" feelings you had while projecting and if you do this enough times, those feelings can become the dominant ones.

Hopefully someone else can answer further because I'm not sure how you will be able to go back to those same moments in your life the many times you may need to in order to work it out. I know everything in the NPR is as easy as your next thought but that just doesn't work for me every time. I did because I used the memory as a means to project and so I ended up in that place ( damn, I just realized that I sound like I'm trying to rip off the Butterfly Effect movie). I don't recommend you try that technique because it sounds like you're dealing with some very strong emotions and I would hate for that to make it worse.

Somebody who knows more about this than me will find your post.
It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.
Mark Twain

Szaxx

If you manage to experience time shifts it may be a clairvoyant interpretation of past or future. These are generally formed by the emotions of those prominent in your experience. Although the scene your viewing is being acted out like in a vivid dream you have little control on the events.
You watch and remember almost everything you're seeing. The feelings of those present are prominent and they are the main building block of the scene whether they are fact or a personal interpretation matters not in the reality of the situation viewed.
Be aware of this. On occasions you may see a future event and think its 100% whats going to occur. Then find out later that in the mind of the 'decision maker' at the time, your scene plays out exactly.
As far as changing anything, you'll have no way if its already occured and if in the future be very careful who you speak to.
It'll be your fault because you knew about it.
This is from experiences over many years.

Going back in time to view something as it happened is possible with enough intent and buckets full of experience.
They dont last long either and the recall is pathetic in comparison to a clairvoyant experience.
Hope this shines a light on your endeavours.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

blidge

Quote from: its_all_bad on January 20, 2013, 22:24:26


I'm still feeling freaky at how relevant this is to your question. Doing this technique has ABSOLUTELY helped me get passed that part of my life. The first couple of times, after I projected directly into this conversation with her, I knew her responses were all from me since she was just a projection of my own mind.  What really caught my attention was her responses because I had never imagined them to be so much in my favor. I don't know how, but I'm positive that I pulled her astral self in and worked it out with her. I wanted to ask her about my ex's hair but didn't want to sound like a stalker. After that time, I've had a lot of closure.




Thanks for the response and am glad it has helped you. It was just something that i thought id throw out there and something that ill give a try using your technique. yes a projection from your mind is what it was, indeed it all is BUT its the resulting feelings that im interested in after projection has ended. i guess a part of your mind changed the conversation to your liking, kind of wish fulfilment and it would of been interesting to find out if her hair had indeed changed. Yes it has answered my query even though there isnt anything really pressing on my mind, but given the opportunity id like to re experience certain events, to be replayed and see if my conclusions are much changed.
Perception is everything, because you think you see it, does it mean its true?

blidge

Quote from: Xanth on January 20, 2013, 22:40:18
It's not "time travel" perse... it's not like you can travel back in time to physically change events.

Events have happened and can't be changed.  This is one of the lessons for living in this physical reality that one must accept.

You can, however, view past events.  This is what people experience.
yes i meant visit the event again BUT have the knowledge to know that im not reliving what has happened just viewing it again, but to see if the end result can help shed light on what trauma if any was caused by the seeing the event.
I mention about changing events only if it were possible, who knows what limits there are in viewing events from the past, its all in ones own head after all.

Quote from: Szaxx on January 21, 2013, 08:01:33

Going back in time to view something as it happened is possible with enough intent and buckets full of experience.
They dont last long either and the recall is pathetic in comparison to a clairvoyant experience.
Hope this shines a light on your endeavours.

This is all i want to be able to do, with enough practice and see if i feel any change mentally.

Quote from: its_all_bad on January 20, 2013, 23:28:51
I definitely don't believe you will be able to change the events in any fashion but if you're ready to put some hard work into it, you can probably change the way you feel. I doubt you will ever forget the events but you may lose the trauma. Your initial feelings will always be there but in time, you may also be able to recall the "better" feelings you had while projecting and if you do this enough times, those feelings can become the dominant ones.

Yeah its more coming to terms with the feelings that i have over a given event in life, a kind of self hypnosis to heal and yes the better feelings about the projection overall.

Quote from: Xanth on January 20, 2013, 22:40:18
  This is one of the lessons for living in this physical reality that one must accept.

You can, however, view past events.  This is what people experience.
things that happen in life make you the person that you are, who knows who id be without any/all of the events that have happened in my life.

thanks all for the feedback
:-D :-D :-D
Perception is everything, because you think you see it, does it mean its true?

ange.connell

There are some 'events' in my life I so wish I could go back to. See how they look now from what I now know. How my life has developed because of things that have happened to me. I do not want to change what I experienced but to see if I think about them in a different way. I really do think that things/events happen for a reason, good or bad. They help you grow and develop spiritually as well as emotionally. No regrets as everything happens for a reason.
What does not destroy me only makes me stronger

justin35ll

Quote from: Xanth on January 20, 2013, 22:40:18
It's not "time travel" perse... it's not like you can travel back in time to physically change events.

Events have happened and can't be changed.  This is one of the lessons for living in this physical reality that one must accept.

You can, however, view past events.  This is what people experience.

This.

I actually got into all this stuff because I got caught shoplifting. It was the first time I was in serious trouble so it was a pretty big impact on my life. I was looking to see if time travel was possible, then I stumbled upon some astral projection videos on youtube. Now I would never want to go back and change what I did and I'm glad I couldn't because it brought me to where I am today!
So maybe you can relate that to yourself somehow, but I have come to the realization that I don't think it's possible to time travel, but apparently it is possible to RELIVE your past experiences (but I have not done that before)

desert-rat

Time travel is adressed in some of the a.p. books , but they state you can look but not change .  One book is " The astral Worlds , its Scenes , Dwellers , and Phenomena " , by Swami Panchadasi , no isbn #  I found this book and some others on a.p. during a move , but the others are still in boxes some where .  A lady posted hear that she went back in time to correct problems earlier in her life , so who knows .  A round 25 years ago this lady asked me to take her to this motel where she told me her b.f. was with her kids .  The b.f. and kids were not there .  I think she had some thing else in mind . It would be fun to go back to that time and see .  Of course that could  change both of our lives , or just be a one time thing , who knows .  desert rat 

Xanth

Quote from: justin35ll on January 25, 2013, 18:49:56
This.

I actually got into all this stuff because I got caught shoplifting. It was the first time I was in serious trouble so it was a pretty big impact on my life. I was looking to see if time travel was possible, then I stumbled upon some astral projection videos on youtube. Now I would never want to go back and change what I did and I'm glad I couldn't because it brought me to where I am today!
Yup.  As was said... your past experiences define who you are.  Change those experiences and you change who you are.  This is why you can not change things, because not only are you changing yourself, you're also changing everyone else who your experiences had an impact upon.

Butterfly effect.

You've accepted that which you did.  That's the best thing you could ever do.  :)

QuoteSo maybe you can relate that to yourself somehow, but I have come to the realization that I don't think it's possible to time travel, but apparently it is possible to RELIVE your past experiences (but I have not done that before)
You can definitely relive your experiences.  You can, apparently, even play out alternative "what if" scenarios as well. 
For example, Tom Campbell tells a story of the time he projected and played out the scenario of what would have happened had Hitler won WW2.
He mentioned that while things changed in the short term... in the long term, everything worked out kind of exactly as it is now.  So changes such as Hitler winning WW2 didn't really have much of a long term impact globally.

Szaxx

Many have done this and the resulting suffering for those unsuitable is dire. Its in the past and lets hope lessons have been learned from this era.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

Bedeekin

I have been back and changed an outcome to see what would have happened. Although there are so many variables that the deeper and farther one goes form the original 'real' thread... the more one loses focus and gets pulled into it, resulting in a confused dream. however, I have never done this to erase or relive an experience to change my personal memory... only for sheer curiosity.

No looking back... no regrets... only NOW.

I use future projection quite a lot to work out problems that may happen or to build things... or rather work out how to build things. I have tried many times to work out situations with people.. but these never go according to plan and are very inaccurate due to 'free will' on their part.  :-)