Tips on beating the vibrations

[NuovoVesuvio]

Hi all,

It's been a while since I've posted here; I've been out of the 'spiritual loop' for a few years now but plan on getting back in touch with things.

So, for a good 6 months or so now, I can get very extreme vibrations very easily. I'm very familiar with the literature on OBEs & astral projection etc. But, I can never get passed this stage. Once I'm getting the vibrations, I usually hold it for a short while, then try any of a variety of exit methods, e.g. rope, rolling out, floating upwards, ladder etc. Nothing has really worked.

I don't think this is a particularly new question so apologies if there are any threads with it already answered - I found one or two similar ones in the search but nothing specifically the same as this.

Thanks for your time.

[RisingSon]

That's a tough one to answer.  I've had similar issues getting out of that state even when I'm full conscious of what is going on.  Robert Bruce mentions that in many cases an apparent failure to detach is in fact a failure to download the memory of the experience.  In other words, you are having OBEs but not remembering them.  Lots of help, right?

Perhaps it is all a matter of not what technique you use, just that you continue your practice with the best intent.  I think my problems with fully detaching are a matter of lack of clear intent.  This whole thing is a delicate balance, so finding the best conditions for you have to be worked out in practice.  Perhaps just experiencing the vibrational state itself, or perhaps trying to prolong it will give you the means to understand that balance better.  There are lots of opinions on this I'm sure, but that is my take.

BTW, I've been in the vibrational state consciously many times, have had many partial separations, but only had a handful of actual, remember OBEs.  Good luck!

[Riyhone]

Hi, I am new to these forums, etc.  I have had vibrations since early childhood and have maany many OBEs (up until recently, I had no idea these were 'vibrations' or 'obe's', I just thought that humming lead to being able to fly and be awake in my dreams).

Anyway, very rarely have I struggled beyond the vibrations, but when I have, it is because I was trying to force it (My head would get stuck).  What works best for me is not to try (as I tend to do that with my physical body) but rather just relax and think fly, and voila, i am flying around.  It is like i just think about the place I want to go, and I go there, I do not have to think about the actual flying.  For me, I have always found focusing on the place I want to be is when I have the best experiences.  I have an awful lot to learn, and am the antithesis of expert on these topics, but regardless, I hope my own experiences are able to provide you with some assistance. 

[NuovoVesuvio]

Thanks very much by the way guys - to all of you personally. I'll work on this and update if I can provide any useful feedback.

Cheers.

[Psan]

Once I'm getting the vibrations, I usually hold it for a short while, then try any of a variety of exit methods, e.g. rope, rolling out, floating upwards, ladder etc. Nothing has really worked.

Then perhaps you should not do all that when in vibe state ...
Sometimes doing too much achieves too less. Rope/log/ladder etc etc are means to strengthen intention and keep the awareness alive, when the natural process of separation is going on. Taking it too literally will not work.

If you easily manage to get to the vibes while being fully lucid and aware, just let it happen, keeping a slightly curious and neutral state of mind. Relaxing a bit more, but not too much, and just passively observing. It works for me sometimes.

[Fresco]

Then perhaps you should not do all that when in vibe state ...
Sometimes doing too much achieves too less. Rope/log/ladder etc etc are means to strengthen intention and keep the awareness alive, when the natural process of separation is going on. Taking it too literally will not work.

If you easily manage to get to the vibes while being fully lucid and aware, just let it happen, keeping a slightly curious and neutral state of mind. Relaxing a bit more, but not too much, and just passively observing. It works for me sometimes.

How much time (roughly) do you spend vibrating before you exit??

[personalreality]

A lot of what you're doing with those methods is really trying to move your awareness outside of your body and narrow it down to a single point of focus.  The problem with doing all those methods is that you are doing to much with your mind and losing focus.  The best thing I've found that you can do is "go to sleep" and just try to maintain a tiny bit of 'noticing' awareness, become the 'Watcher'.

I've also learned recently that when you feel that buzzing, you should try to increase their intensity which should come intuitively, it shouldn't be hard once you get there.  You'll buzz to a point where you'll feel like you popped out of your body and you'll feel like you just floated up a little bit above your body, THEN do the exit techniques, like rolling out or floating upwards.  It seems that after you go through the vibration/buzzing phase and pop out, you're not really out, you're still connected.  This is the time to do your exit techniques.  Or so I've discovered in my case.

[Xanth]

A lot of what you're doing with those methods is really trying to move your awareness outside of your body and narrow it down to a single point of focus.  The problem with doing all those methods is that you are doing to much with your mind and losing focus.  The best thing I've found that you can do is "go to sleep" and just try to maintain a tiny bit of 'noticing' awareness, become the 'Watcher'.

I've also learned recently that when you feel that buzzing, you should try to increase their intensity which should come intuitively, it shouldn't be hard once you get there.  You'll buzz to a point where you'll feel like you popped out of your body and you'll feel like you just floated up a little bit above your body, THEN do the exit techniques, like rolling out or floating upwards.  It seems that after you go through the vibration/buzzing phase and pop out, you're not really out, you're still connected.  This is the time to do your exit techniques.  Or so I've discovered in my case.

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[Synune]

Just had my first obe, I think. I was wondering if the buzzing is always a concious part of having an obe. I did not notice it. I do however recall a distict popping on my skin when I returned to myself. It seemed to continue for a few seconds as of bubbles were popping on my skin. I also don't recall hearing much in the way of sound. Is it possible to feel this buzzing while awake? If so, does it resemble the energy waves we feel when our hands are not touching but we feel the heat? I have always been highly concious if this energy and it sometimes becomes hard to handle like a tingling in the sensitive part of my Finger tips. My pineal lobe(3rd eye) often activates itself but I do not see, hear, feel anything different while awake.

I know I went slightly off topic, but maybe the buzzing/vibrations are similar?   

[Psan]

How much time (roughly) do you spend vibrating before you exit??

Should be roughly 10-20 secs. max.

[CFTraveler]

Just had my first obe, I think. I was wondering if the buzzing is always a concious part of having an obe.

Not necessarily.  Sometimes it is only heard/felt in the beginning of conscious OBE, and it changes and moves in intensity until it's not felt at all.  Some people never feel vibrations.

I do however recall a distict popping on my skin when I returned to myself. It seemed to continue for a few seconds as of bubbles were popping on my skin. I also don't recall hearing much in the way of sound. Is it possible to feel this buzzing while awake? If so, does it resemble the energy waves we feel when our hands are not touching but we feel the heat?

The popping feeling may be another way to feel separation vibrations (I used to feel this in my heart chakra, especially if I'm trying the rope method) but the energy work feedback vibrations are a lot more subtle, separation sensations more dramatic.

[Synune]

So I tried to induce an OBE through binaural beat mediation and Wow! Totally different from before. I did not have a full OBe, but I will say that I felt rediculous vibrations. It felt more like my nervous system started pumping adrenaline into my body. I felt my chest lifting off the bed, and I was shaking intensly all over. It was actually arousing. I've never experienced anything like this before in my life. What a natural high. I started to see a pleasent white fog and just when I got to the edge I came to. I probably need to practice. Is this a normal experience? Any thoughts?

[kurtykurt42]

Try using some big crystals when your ready, that will take things to the next level.

[Synune]

I've heard they help. What concerns me is that I think I may have self induced an adrenaline rush. I'm afraid that's bad for my body. I wasn't afraid though in the normal way. I was more happy then anything. It's been about an hour and my hands are still shaky. But I feel good. Does anyone experience that sort of elation/convulsion?