recently i started having OBE"s -mostly the exit occured while i was on the very edge of sleep when my mind was out of the way. now i find i can start the exit sensations via rope technique after i wake in the night, however my mind is more awake and i end up laying there going through the buzzing, heart rate, energy flow for maybe an hour, doing NEW stuff, chakra stuff, clearing my mind, but end up not exiting. just wondering what to do for the final push. last time it happened i stopped trying and waited to try when i was on the very edge of sleep again but no go. i suppose i will get past it but this leaves you very sore in the morning and i must have been right at the gateway a few times. i suppose if i do project while my mind is more alert the experience will be more vivid?