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Title: Toxins and astral projection?
Post by: TurulMadar on March 13, 2009, 01:27:21
I've been trying 2 project on and off for a while now, and was just wondering if getting rid of "toxins" in your body make a significant difference.  Whenever I'm off a university I don't tend to really watch what I eat (lot of junk food) and drink every once in a while. I am however quite active and in good shape. So could eating bad and drinking (occasionally) have a negative effect on my chances of astral projecting?
Title: Re: Toxins and astral projection?
Post by: tr0798 on March 13, 2009, 16:27:46
I recently asked something similar in this thread:  http://www.astralpulse.com/forums/welcome_to_obe_discussions/tobacco_alcohol_and_obe-t29285.0.html

I eat junk food all the time  :-D. I've had my first 3 OBE's in the last 2 weeks, so I really don't think the so-called "toxins" in junk food are bad for the body or OBE's. If these foods were toxic, the FDA would issue some sort of warning about them (Example: Fish... There's warnings all over about not eating too much fish at once because of mercury poisoning. However, research shows the health benefits of eating fish with regularity outweigh the risks). The air we breathe every day, and think nothing about, probably has more toxins then say, the Little Debbie fudge brownie that I just ate 2 minutes ago. Think about how much stuff is in the air: all of the fallout from all of the nuclear weapons ever detonated on Earth, all of the industrial chemicals, all of the dust, all of the other particulates. Eating healthy is definitely better than not eating healthy, but its not something you should worry about in regards to OBE, IMO.

As for alcohol, I'm not 100% sure on. I'm sure being completely trashed will definitely kill your ability to OBE, but maybe having a glass of wine or one beer might relax your body more and allow you to more easily enter OBE? I have noticed that I feel the numbness come on a lot faster when I've had one or two beers.

Title: Re: Toxins and astral projection?
Post by: iNNERvOYAGER on March 13, 2009, 17:02:43
If you follow the theory that AP is a preview of what happens when the body dies, and apply the logic that junk food may prevent AP, then eating junk food could be a way of achieving physical immortality.

Did you see the old film Sleeper by Woody Allen? He wakes up in the future after a cryogenic sleep, and it turns out that brown rice and health foods caused cancer and that everyone in the future lived on twinkies, and food with chemical additives. 
Title: Re: Toxins and astral projection?
Post by: spark on March 26, 2009, 22:26:04
Hi All.  I am a frequent OBER, and have had thousands of OBEs.  I am 45.  I have heard varying degrees of thoughts here.  For me, a good diet has always been extremely helpful to success in OBEing.  Actually, I first started to OBE very much back in college when I went on a few month stint of eating raw veggies and raw fruits, and nuts only for a few months, and lifting weights and running every day.  Anyway, I don't exactly think that is the best idea, but it was a great way to start into this.  Anyway, I find a very basic veggie diet to be extremely helpful.  For me, when I want to get back into things more, I sometimes go on a kick like that for a few weeks.  I am not a granola type.  I am a lawyer.  I just basically think people have gone off track in their assumptions as to what food is.  Anyway, I think that one reason it is helpful is because the more energy and better health you have (including better and easier breathing airways at night, etc.), the cleaner you will sleep and the clearer your mind will be.  Anyway, I also think that eating partly okay has not done much for me.  That is, if I eat icecream in the evening and salads otherwise, I think that the icecream still stays in the system and probably interferes still.  So, for me, it has been the extremely clean diet that tipped the scales and opened the door very well.  By the way, back in college I also ate lots of raw potatos!  Sounds gross, but I started to really like them.  I recall that the main reason I stopped eating that way was that I started to taste all the pesticides on the produce and it was becoming disgusting to me, and I gave up on it ... but, i still go back to it once in a while ... and, always know that is the best way to be ... well, at least I feel that way.
Good luck,
Spark
P.S.  Of course, assorted drugs could probably do the trick too!  Like mushrooms, etc., but you might impare other parts of your brain! 
P.S.  When I was eating the raw veggies and doing the exercising I mentioend, I had some nights with hours of OBEign in the morning.  It was bizzare.  I felt like I did not go to sleep, but felt wonderfully rested. But, that was after months of being that way.  I have never had that same intensity, etc.  Now, I can have multiple OBEs in the morning, but they are usually shorter in duration and my energy wanes after a minute or so typically. 
Title: Re: Toxins and astral projection?
Post by: spark on March 26, 2009, 22:36:44
One last thing ...

I find it strange how much people assume things.  I see my grandma in a dream where I am lucid.  Hence: "I must have traveled out of my body and talked to an old dead woman."  Or, "This candy is small, and it is okay to eat it in moderation." 

To me, this is nonsense.  The nonsense that only humans can do.  All other animals dont possess our great ability to rationalise inanities.  How the heck do we know one way or the other?  So. do toxins hurt or do they help?  To me, it is sort of a strange question.  To me, the question is why do people eat toxins?  I find it so befuddling. 

And, I have heard so many responses.

"You fool, scientific research has shown emphatically that vitamins a, b, c and xyz do such and such."

or

"As people, we are able to rationalise and determine what is right and wrong."

etc.

But, in the end, it is largely B.S.  There is no reason to presume that toxins won't have some interference.


And, as an FYI, I think the fundamental answer you will find to all these neat little questions, is that the world works as it is.  You can eat the food that was given, you can OBE, etc.  It requires love and faith and trust in the world.  But, not the world the way WE define it to be, but the one that we are born into.

Okay, sorry.  I guess I am too emtional about this stuff. :-)  And, I type kind of fast. :-)
Title: Re: Toxins and astral projection?
Post by: Stookie on March 27, 2009, 11:52:08
I don't know about "toxins", but here's a take on it:

For the majority of people, eating right and exercise takes a lot discipline.
AP takes discipline.
So AP would probably be easier for someone who already applies an amount of discipline in their life.

Applying discipline to any aspect of your life demonstrates that you're taking it very seriously and enforces that to your subconscious, creating better chances of success.
Title: Re: Toxins and astral projection?
Post by: zareste on March 27, 2009, 14:14:13
Eating right is pretty dang easy for me. It turns out meat and milk and all those creepy processed foods are acquired tastes we had to get accustomed to because of our industrial society. They taste like crap after you've switched to simple (and inexpensive) things like beans and vaggies.

But I will say it takes adjusting. When your lifestyle is built around cruddy foods, you have to change it piece by piece. Replace meat with salt and beans (Mexicans do vegetarian food really well), use fruit as sweeteners, stuff like that. Eventually you wonder how you ever lived the old way.

But then, you have people people from non-industrial countries who already lived that way, and lack all our health problems.

Same goes with astral projection. Some people could do it with no trouble because they have the lifestyle to suit it, others have to learn how those people live first.