Trance State

[bluremi]

If you read the obe4u ebook, it says no single technique works for everybody. Try a bunch and see which one seems to work best, and stick with it for a while.

Eventually techniques stop working and others, which didn't work previously, suddenly become very useful, so if you hit a roadblock you should try all the techniques again to see which one is most effective.

[Fourthdimension]

To be honest mate if you wanna learn to projector then the worst thing you can do is read to mucb into all this because a majority of beginner guides are full of excrement in the way tht they build your expectations to believe its a mystical process when its not. its a natural process we do every day of our lives unconsiously

you know i mean we give fancy names to this f10 but all it really is is just clearing your mind and trying to keep consious while your body drifts off into sleep this does nt require any special technique.

so your in bed and you going to sleep cause your tired so you lie down as if you were going to sleep but use mental aides to try and keep you mentally aware .

i start by lying there for 5 and just drifting off into random thoughts and day dreams before i decide to inhale and exhale deep breaths and count from 1-10, 10-2. 2-10,10-3, etc and this is only to keep me awake and consious and the whole time i am trying to become aware of the snesations i am feeling.

i have never really had any vibrations i just start to feel tingly and pressure in my head and then pop am out.

am not very good with words but basically dont read any traditional methods at all. none. no rope tech or anything. just read about phasing , download lucidology 102 they will help alot

i guess what am trying to say with this is that by building your expectations of this to be something t is nt is gonna make it harder for you.
like when we do visualisations we dont actually see it like a film before our eyes we only sense it try to devlop vague outlines etc but people say.....i cant visualise ....its like god damn everyone can visualise what prob u having...well i cant see this cat as if its right here now....well thts cause the cat is nt there so why on earth do u imagine u could see it.....erm erm .....to visualise is not to see as if a movie

mate just LET GO AND RELAX AND ENJOY THE RIDE thats all u need to do

[luffy28]

I'm going to try the obe4u techniques to see if they work. I was able to not move my body or anything once I woke up. I'll try it tomorrow.