Trying so long but no OBEs, frustrating...

[Birm]

Hi ascendtodivinity,

From what you said i understand what you feel. Because i felt the same way at the beginning.

It is all about expectations... I mean if you expect to be there just as physically being there, you can never have an OBE or LD.

The easiest thing is to have an LD. So here is my suggestion to you:

Do some energy work, after then get into deep trance... When you feel yourself huge or disoriented do this:

Pretend yourself diving into a deep sea with your eyes closed. Swim in the water, keep swimming, feel the water sorround you, feel the swimming sensation, try to hear the water sounds as well... Your eyes will be closed so dont expect to see anything...

When it starts to feel real, you will fall asleep. So make it short... And try to get familiar with the feeling...

Hope it helps,
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[cube]

The interrupted sleep method has worked the best for me so far. All you have to do is wake up a few hours early, stay awake for one hour, go back to bed, you'll probably wake up in paralysis or a direct OBE. If it's paralysis do deep breaths to project and you're out!

I haven't found the exact time to wake up and fall asleep that works best for me because I have a really hard time going to sleep at the same time every night. But I've found that the 'inconvenience factor' seems to work to your advantage. You should sleep until you really really don't want to get up, then get up for one hour which is just enough time to make it so you really don't want to go back to bed. At that point go to sleep again with the intention of having a projection.

[ascendtodivinity]

Well, I have been working on experiencing OBEs off and on for practically a year.  I have not once, to my memory, had an OBE or Lucid Dream (although I do have good dream recall).  I work on building energy and can get into a deep trance.  I have not seen hypnogogic imagery, only white energy bursts, and "The Strobe Effect" on my third eye chakra.  I've worked with the rope technique, and shifting body awareness, but with almost no results.  I do usually feel interesting and new sensations most of the time when i do trance work, which keeps me intrigued, but no OBE so far.  I have read many suggestions on this site, but still havent gotten there.  I know there is no golden suggestion out there, but is there anyone here that has overcome a similar situation and is willing to lend some advice? []