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Relinquish

In truth, Reality itself can have no real ultimate 'edge', in any direction at all, in expanse or duration.

The very presence of any conceivable 'absence of Reality' that may intuitively seem to inherently remain boundlessly beyond such an edge would forever ensure, in and of itself, that its own essential condition of 'absolute lack of presence' could NEVER be met. Consequently, this apparent absence is always already encompassed by (and therefore, included 'within') the ever-remaining causeless, boundless presence that is Reality itself, which is, as such, not a 'thing'.

In truth, Reality fundamentally equals 'ZERO'. That is to say, actually, there isn't anything.

Yet, the very 'ISness' of this 'ZERO' inextricably equals 'ONE'.

Being intrinsically infinite and eternal, 'ONE' is forever choicelessly aware of (and is therefore effortlessly experiencing) the eternal infinity that is 'ONE', all the while remaining (due to its fundamentally attributeless nature) absolutely unrequiring of (and thus, completely devoid of) any capacity for the formation of any kind of 'knowledge' of 'itself', or of 'anything else'.

This is the stateless state of 'pure awareness'. It simply 'is', without beginning, ending or edge, always already perfect and complete, and absolutely sufficient unto itself. As such, it remains forever in an unfathomable state of unthreatenable bliss.

This, alone, is 'What Actually 'IS'', 'Here' and 'Now'.

As 'ONE' experiences 'ONE', 'ONE' SEEMS to be 'TWO'. These illusory 'TWO' are 'the seer' and 'the seen'. The seen is fundamentally manifested as the state of 'absolute chaos' (finite, ever-changing and moving form). The seer is fundamentally manifested as the state of 'absolute order' (infinite, ever-changeless and still emptiness).

'From' the eternal interaction between this apparent 'pair', 'Everything' happens, in the ONLY way that it possibly can;

'THIS' way.

In other words, the so-called 'big bang' (which is one in an infinite series of such bangs) can be described as an instantaneous event of pure chaos (the seen) that happens in the infinite field of changeless and orderly emptiness (the seer). When this occurs, the passive 'gaze' of the field causes the event to coherently 'evaporate', unresistingly, via the orderly path of least resistance until it has completely dissolved, and then another bang happens, and so on forever. The evaporation itself (which can ONLY happen perfectly) is the seemingly causal and sequential 'life' of the universe, along with all of its apparently coherent hierarchical structure and physical 'laws'.

Being an evaporation, it doesn't really have any actual 'parts', that are fundamentally different from and/or independently other than each other in the way in which they seem to be.

Therefore, every'thing', every'one', and every 'event' EVER is actually an 'apparent part' of the forever fundamentally seamless and effortless unfurling of this one choiceless effect, which is itself comprised ONLY of the one causeless, unencompassed, self-aware presence that is 'ZERO'.

Ultimately 'Here' and 'Now', without another, forever and ever;


(((((((((('THIS'-EXPERIENCING-'THIS'))))))))))


Thanks for reading. :-)

Kzaal

Great read!
This made me think, when I used to want so much to know what life and then it's right there in front of you.
And you end up telling yourself that: -It cannot not exist. It will always be there. This is life.
Even if the universe would collapse, it would kickstart itself back to life because that's what it is!
Same goes for the void and the Astral. It does what it's there to do.
That was an awesome thing to read because it made me go back that precise moment and it always seemed to escape me.
The partial becomes complete; the crooked, straight; the empty,
full; the worn out, new. He whose (desires) are few gets them; he
whose (desires) are many goes astray.

Relinquish

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Quote from: Kzaal on November 10, 2014, 22:54:37
Great read!
This made me think, when I used to want so much to know what life and then it's right there in front of you.
And you end up telling yourself that: -It cannot not exist. It will always be there. This is life.
Even if the universe would collapse, it would kickstart itself back to life because that's what it is!
Same goes for the void and the Astral. It does what it's there to do.
That was an awesome thing to read because it made me go back that precise moment and it always seemed to escape me.

Hi Kzaal. :-)

I'm glad you liked it. As you probably recognize, what I posted is basically my way of conceptually explaining the manner in which the totality of the universe manifests and unfurls, and why. I am also trying to put into words how it is that what we think we are does not actually exist at all in the autonomously moving way that it seems to. The individual 'doer' doesn't really exist. Yet, because we DO feel ourselves to exist in some way or other, we must actually be that which DOES exist, which is the sizeless, shapeless, durationless, self-experiencing Omnipresence ALONE. Actually, we are That. Without another, forever and ever. Always already perfect and complete.

Here is another way I can demonstrate the same truth.

In truth, any given 'particular thing' (for example, a tree) can ONLY exist if the right conditions are present. These conditions are 'not the tree', and are necessarily comprised of 'other things', ALL of which can ONLY exist if the right conditions are present. These conditions are 'not those other things', and are necessarily comprised of 'other other things', ALL of which can ONLY exist if the right conditions are present....and so on and so on, ad infinitum.

Therefore, 'the tree' could not possibly appear in exactly the way that it is without the ENTIRE presence that is 'not the tree' (i.e. the rest of Reality as an ultimately singular, boundless and fundamentally undifferentiated presence) appearing in exactly the way that it is.

In this way, 'the tree' and 'not the tree' are seen as an absolutely inseparable 'pair' of opposites, and (like ALL such pairs) are inextricably indicative of the deeper (and MORE ACTUAL) Reality that is itself fundamentally seamless and therefore devoid of BOTH. As such, it isn't actually true that there exists EITHER 'the tree' OR 'not the tree', that are intrinsically different from and/or independently other than each other in the way in which they seem to be. EXACTLY the same is true of 'Me' and 'Not Me'.

In truth, both of these two are absolutely equal. That is, equally non-existent. NEITHER are actually Here.

What IS actually Here, alone, is the Void.

Yet, in some way or other, 'experiencing' IS undeniably taking place. That is, the eternally effortless experiencing OF the Void, BY the Void.

:-)

Relinquish

In other words, what we really are is always already JUST AS MUCH -ALL- that seems to be 'not ourselves' as it is that which seems to be 'ourselves'. As far as I can see, there is no greater or more liberating OBE than this one, and I sincerely hope that everyone here gets to experience it.

Peace.

:-)

Kzaal

Hehehe as a Taoist this is what I live everyday and that knowledge is the one I carry with me everyday.
The Yin and the Yang explains everything along with the Dao de Jing.
Nothing can exist without it's opposite. Hence everything exist but doesn't in the same way.
The partial becomes complete; the crooked, straight; the empty,
full; the worn out, new. He whose (desires) are few gets them; he
whose (desires) are many goes astray.

Rakkso

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Hello, very interesting post, however, there are some things that, IMHO, are not the very Truth of things. I'll try to sort them out properly:


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Quote from: Relinquish on November 10, 2014, 20:59:15
In truth, Reality itself can have no real ultimate 'edge', in any direction at all, in expanse or duration.

The very presence of any conceivable 'absence of Reality' that may intuitively seem to inherently remain boundlessly beyond such an edge would forever ensure, in and of itself, that its own essential condition of 'absolute lack of presence' could NEVER be met. Consequently, this apparent absence is always already encompassed by (and therefore, included 'within') the ever-remaining causeless, boundless presence that is Reality itself, which is, as such, not a 'thing'.

I see the logical and rational process that brought you here, congratulations for having compressed your ideas in properly ordered words, it certainly is not an easy thing, and I can see the easiness of explaining this, in you, because you know the argument too well apparently, however, in my condition of understating the fundamental spiritual Truth on the Oneness, as I have experienced it myself, and as someone who studied spiritualism deeply and now the edges of sciences in this universe.

I have to say that it is not a Causeless Universe, or a Boundless one.

The Love of God (A Field, a certain magnetic one, fundamental one) is everywhere in this Universe, exploring each and every mathematical aspect, arrangement or configuration that it can experiences within its pseudo-established Laws.

You are thinking too "Inside the box" and looking around and seeing only the walls in which you found yourself in, and putting your conclusions in the Belief that "Out shoe box is inside a bigger show box that has no created us out of chaotic Thought". I Know "our shoe box" is a mathematical representation of potentiality and probability, created by an unfathomable force to experience itself.

And just as out reality is just That "set" of rules than comprises it in a "shoe box" there are other shoe boxes with different mathematical arrangements or configurations that set the bases and pillars of its own sustainability. this is a mathematical fact.

As an example, you can look for Non-Euclidean Geometry, a 4Dimensional one, there are even more complex geometries there but my head would explode if I try to logically imagine them. but numbers never lie.


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Quote from: Relinquish on November 10, 2014, 20:59:15
In truth, Reality fundamentally equals 'ZERO'. That is to say, actually, there isn't anything.

Yet, the very 'ISness' of this 'ZERO' inextricably equals 'ONE'.

Yes, Our Reality is nothing but an Illusion. Just as there are other many Realities, which are in turn Illusions too.
I prefer to call them Simulations, since Digital Physics can perfectly explain this apparently unsolved question.


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Quote from: Relinquish on November 10, 2014, 20:59:15
Being intrinsically infinite and eternal, 'ONE' is forever choicelessly aware of (and is therefore effortlessly experiencing) the eternal infinity that is 'ONE', all the while remaining (due to its fundamentally attributeless nature) absolutely unrequiring of (and thus, completely devoid of) any capacity for the formation of any kind of 'knowledge' of 'itself', or of 'anything else'.

This is the stateless state of 'pure awareness'. It simply 'is', without beginning, ending or edge, always already perfect and complete, and absolutely sufficient unto itself. As such, it remains forever in an unfathomable state of unthreatenable bliss.

I would like to edit this, your post to clarify things more:

"Being intrinsically infinite and eternal, 'ONE(You, Me, Us, We, each and every single one of us existing right now)' is forever choicelessly is forever within the limits of its capacity to exercise its own Will, allowed within its rule Sets, Free Will or Omniscience, aware of (and is therefore effortlessly experiencing (experiencing: The apprehension of (an object, thought, or emotion through the senses or mind)) the eternal infinity that is 'ONE(You, Me, Us, We, each and every single one of us existing here right now)'mentally or physically, all the while remaining (due to its fundamentally attributeless nature (Of Consciousness)) absolutely unrequiring of Learning (and thus, completely devoid of) BUT with the capacity for the formation of any kind of 'knowledge' of 'itself', or of 'anything else'. That it Desires

This is the stateless state of 'pure awareness'. It simply 'is', without beginning, ending or edge, always already perfect and complete, and absolutely sufficient unto itself(the Universe and All). As such, it remains forever in an unfathomable state of unthreatenable bliss. UNLESS it itself chooses not to remain fixated, static, and move to a more dynamically oriented way of improving Itself within its given Limits or Set of Rules."


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Quote from: Relinquish on November 10, 2014, 20:59:15
This, alone, is 'What Actually 'IS'', 'Here' and 'Now'.

As 'ONE' experiences 'ONE', 'ONE' SEEMS to be 'TWO'. These illusory 'TWO' are 'the seer' and 'the seen'. The seen is fundamentally manifested as the state of 'absolute chaos' (finite, ever-changing and moving form). The seer is fundamentally manifested as the state of 'absolute order' (infinite, ever-changeless and still emptiness).

'From' the eternal interaction between this apparent 'pair', 'Everything' happens, in the ONLY way that it possibly can;

'THIS' way.

I couldn't agree more with this.


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Quote from: Relinquish on November 10, 2014, 20:59:15
In other words, the so-called 'big bang' (which is one in an infinite series of such bangs) can be described as an instantaneous event of pure chaos (the seen) that happens in the infinite field of changeless and orderly emptiness (the seer). When this occurs, the passive 'gaze' of the field causes the event to coherently 'evaporate', unresistingly, via the orderly path of least resistance until it has completely dissolved, and then another bang happens, and so on forever. The evaporation itself (which can ONLY happen perfectly) is the seemingly causal and sequential 'life' of the universe, along with all of its apparently coherent hierarchical structure and physical 'laws'.

Being an evaporation, it doesn't really have any actual 'parts', that are fundamentally different from and/or independently other than each other in the way in which they seem to be.

Therefore, every'thing', every'one', and every 'event' EVER is actually an 'apparent part' of the forever fundamentally seamless and effortless unfurling of this one choiceless effect, which is itself comprised ONLY of the one causeless, unencompassed, self-aware presence that is 'ZERO'.

Yes, happens in every Shoe box.
Every-thing in our material Universe fundamentally goes to how many protons does it has in its nucleus, and how X number of nucleus with X number of protons arranged itself.
So if you ad or substract a Single number particle For All Practical Purposes, to a single "Quark particle Arrangements", you theoretically could have a Whole different Universe, based on different molecular arrangements, creating more dynamic ways for energy to arrange itself, with a seemingly chaotic set of rules, just as in our own.


And Yes, we continue to grow and therefore Be, our memories(self) don't just remain and sit there in the Universes Mind hard-drive, doing nothing, it is not the evolutionary and fundamental purpose of the universe. A chaotic seemingly one, but you have to look more carefully.
Thoughts can affect Reality on a Quantum or Sub-atomical level, research into this and you'll see what I mean. Hopefully you will reach the same conclusion that I, and a group of scientist I met have reached before me.


Thank you for reading too  :-D
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