UGH!!!

[kiauma]

Don't give up.  Be patient.  It sounds like you are doing a good practice, however there are mental preperations that have nothing to do with any 'technique'.

Just have faith that the rest will all take place in it's own time, continue your practice, and be content.

It never fails.

[Manix]

Right! Don't give up. I've been at this for 6 or 7 years and only accomplished one OBE that was planned (was similar to the insomnia technique now that I think about it)!
The point is, I don't let not having control over the situation get me down. There are so many other aspects to explore (lucid dreamings' my favorite lol) I'm no longer dissappointed that I can't OBE on command so to speak. Often times it happens early in the morning. The desire is so strong that one morning I wake up and realize I might be relaxed enough in mind and body to make an attempt. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. If it doesn't, no big deal. I know if I keep it up and have some patience I'll get there one day. In the mean time, I'm really enjoying the practice of Lucid dreaming, dream interpretation, and dream incubation. Those are only a few different things you can do. I'm sure there's many more. All of them will help you, in some form or another, reach your ultimate goal.

Good luck and hang in there!

[Nick]

Hi lumian,

Welcome to the Astral Pulse! [] Thanks for your topic too, as there are a number of people similarly situated. Be sure to take time to read books, and past topics (as I am sure you have done), because that helps too. Another good book I would recommend is The Projection of the Astral Body by Sylvan Muldoon & Hereward Carrington.

Also, take a look at our File Library (link at the top of the page) for some excellent eBooks and downloads. Take advantage of our Search engine as well to look up past topics that interest you. Finally, there is a section here called Welcome to Permanent Astral Topics that has some good posts on AP/OBE.


Very best,

[lumian]

Thanks for the advice, but yeah it can be EXTREMELY frustrating at times. Guess I'll just keep trying. []

[BOATS]

Freedom belongs to those who believe in it the most.  In time it will come.  If i can do one OBE/AP per month I am lucky.

[Dream Cadet]

Lumian,

Keep working at it and don't give up.  It all has to fall in place at the right time.  Sometimes I am totally relaxed with a clear mind like I'm in a dark 3d void.  I just wait and wait and nothing happens.  Other times I have fallen asleep while trying to OBE and when I woke up I had energy bouncing all through me.  I just rolled over on my side and got still and there it went.  If you keep putting yourself in the environment to OBE, some day it will happen.  You just have to "know" that it will.

Good luck,

D.C.

[lumian]

AGH!!! I know I'm doing everything right, but I'm not APing!

I can even get in such a deep trance now from so much practice I quite
literally feel as if I don't have a body and time slows down CONSIDERABLY in this state, it's like i'm a point of conciousness in infinite space! I can do rope, roll, net, imaginary AP, floating out and nothing works and I just 'barely' get a tense sensation in my body. I know my energy body's alive b/c I get energy spikes, tingles and running water sensations every day right out of the blue.
I actually have a whole CD of binaural beats I made and they take
me no deeper in trance than I can already go, no such luck.
I'm just DESPERATE enough to try the insomnia method..my faith is quite literally a rope over a candle quickly nearing breaking point..I now get discouraged way too often now 'expecting' to fail and I always do. I'm just on the border of giving up and going back to completely embracing the physical and pretending I have no energyy body and I'd really hate that. What should I do?