Vibration Brain Activity Testing - Stephen Laberge

[David Warner]

AP Friends,

Lately, I've been listening to Stephen Laberge to understand the scientific view of the out of body experience vs lucid dream consciousness.

Doing a little research on-line and checking to see if the vibrations during the trance state were ever recorded in the brain activity. I question if this has been mentioned or proved during the lucid dream or oobe.

Anyone at home tested this theory? I know from my test that I am able to project, feel the vibes and my wife who is holding me doesn't feel a thing. But this is not to say what advance technology can record for brain activity.

Your thoughts are welcomed.

Tvos

[Stookie]

Here's a theory:

Since the vibrations happen in the trance state as one begins to OBE, there is a chance they are of non-physical origin. They couldn't be read by physical instruments unless they had an indirect physical effect on the brain, and then you wouldn't necessarily be able to attribute that effect to the vibrations.

Then it seems to jump into the realm of quantum physics which is over my head.

[David Warner]

Stookie,

Has Stephen been able to measure the brain activity during the vibrations of what you know or might have heard?

I guess what it comes down to is this - Stephen does make some real good points in his studies, but still there's too many gaps that he prove.

Ex: Brain activity during Near Death Experience - people have had these obe experiences after they flat-lined for minutes to a half hour and then come back. Describe everything that had ever happened during that event. I know this is off the subject of the vibrations, but it would be
interested to see tests ran on people who are at near death and their brain activity.

Tvos

[magicmac2000]

Tvos: Every night I try to project and most nights my wife is asleep at my side and I don't "allow her" to touch me coz she moves and make me lose my concentration. The other night she fell asleep with her hand touching mine. I didn't want to be rude and tell her "don't touch me" so I thought ... let's go with it, I have to be able to project this way.
The really really interesting point is that when the Vibes time came she woke up and told me that she was feeling vibes !!! And of course, I know I didn't move a anything.
Just something strange...

[David Warner]

Magicmac2000,

Anytime my wife or anyone has was besides during a projection never felt anything. They did report that I murmured a little and twitched a little but out of the ordinarily.

Don't feel like this will hinder you from projecting. Like Robert Bruce stated in his book - if you let any distractions get to you, it won't help you along the way towards relaxing, projecting and listening to the beautiful of outside/inside influences.. Does that make sense?

Finally, I got down to business and decided to share my journals on-line. You will find my journals from 1987 to present. Word doc,html and mp3 format for reading and listening. Feel free to let me know if this has helped you along with your path. Also, please read the Welcome message when you first login. Eventually, I will digitize my video projection experience - so look out for that in the future.

Use your IE or FTP client to access my ftp site.

ftp://invisiblelight.us
id: u38940520-guest
pass: astralplane

Enjoy - The Voice Of Silence


Tvos

[magicmac2000]

TVOS: You are right. I'll try to avoid the distractions if she touches me.
About your GREAT experiences and your kindness sharing them, I reply to that on the thread you've created.
PS: I don't use IE, I use Opera and I really really suggest everyone to use it.

[MisterJingo]

Something I would be very interested to see is a measurement of blood DMT levels before, during and after vibrations and a successful projection. The similarities between DMT effects and the OBE state (from the energy sensations to the actual experiences) are remarkable. DMT is one of the most powerful psychedelics known to man, and is also produced naturally in the brain.

[David Warner]

so maybe we should get Robert Bruce, or even Frank to enter a sleep lab for testing during a oobe for the research and see what happens. this would be a great opportunity to dispel the controversy ap vs. science.

tvos

[Stookie]

MisterJingo-
I think your onto something about studying the chemical reactions in the brain, especially DMT. I'm not positive, but I think I read somewhere that natural DMT activity increases during sleep.

Here's something I found on this page: http://www.deeptrancenow.com/brainwave_synchronization.htm

In eight individuals, blood neurochemicals have been measured before and after 30 minutes of alpha rhythm (10 Hz) BOOS. Melatonin has been reduced 5% to 20% (average 6% decrease) and beta endorphin has been increased 10% to 50% (average 14% increase). Interestingly, these same individuals have an average increase in serotonin of 23% and an increase of norepinephrine by 18%.

TVOS-
I really don't know much about Laberge's work, but I know that brainwaves during OBE and sleep have been studied in the lab, because that's how The Monroe Institute developed hemi-sync. You would think that they studied all aspects, including vibrations. But this kind of study is tricky, because you can't really measure "etheric" energies, only the effects it has on the physical body, like brainwaves. That is, until we understand things better on a quantum level and have instruments to record at that level.

I guess the first step would be to find out on what level the vibes are really at (physical or etheric) and go from there.

[David Warner]

Stookie,

I understand and agree with you - it would be nice to see where Stephen Laberge is at with the vibrations and how he has studied the levels. I appreciate the post reply and will search around a little more.

Here's a excellent link from Robert Bruce's web site on the study of the brain and consciousness.

[/url] http://www.astraldynamics.com/search.asp?Search=email&Type=1&ReferenceID=220 //Thank%20You,Tvos

[skropenfield]

May be you will have something similar. Bipolar transverse montage showing the transition from the interictal spike activity to the right parietotemporal seizure. The seizure starts with an arousal (2) followed by a focal flattering in the region coexisting with an initially preserved left alfa activity. Electromyogram artifacts are related to a tonic bilateral posturing (4). After this concrete seizure the OBE experience occurred. Vibrations firstly are (micro) seizures in electrically unstable parts of cortex (with ensuing inhibition in the ,,exact" part). A little collection of somatosensory and auditory hallucinations (vibrations)...for all that seizures, if also without brain pathology!!! Seizures touch the motor cortex and there you have "vibrations". It exist people whose brains are prone to membrane fusion and to recurrent low-level epileptogene foci!!! What is essential? Not the ,,vibrations" as such but the ensuing inhibition of brain activity, getting dark, in angular gyrus-superior posterior temporal gyrus. Here another example of EEG during OBE.Ok, we have certain inhibition in this region- ,,Prolonged cortical silent period". We speak rather about electrical, cellular working-out and temporary getting-dark in TPJ, than instantaneous electrical jamming as in Blankes experiment. Interestingly, such a trick- rapid and sufficient inhibition of TPJ gives temporary switching down of this horrible computer- computer guarantying metastable symbiosis (or reincarnational ontogenesis) of "subtle" bodies with physical body. If seriously we must suppose a chain of events, not simply inhibition of TPJ, incl. certain changes in bio-energetics- not forget about the brain meridians, etc. Really a temporary switching down regardless what is happening further in TPJ. Obviously, the abovementioned computer is more fundamental than brain; patient with permanent lesion in TPJ (lack of part) may think the doorknob is part of body, etc. etc, the angular gyrus is a complex part of the brain, responsible for things like body and space awareness, and logical sequencing, if something is awry there, a patient might put on his pants first, and then his underwear, and not understand that there's a problem, or the patient might feel like a hand or arm is not connected to the rest of the body, and he can't make it function, but we see not the slightest facilitation of OBEs. The same for ultra-rare cases of no-brainers. It may seem that this confirms the thesis so loved by professional skeptics- "all in brain...all in brain, etc." But this is not so. Simply certain "hold" is switched down. A bit paradoxically- vibrations are hallucinations, but OBEs are not. Some unknown examples. Patient G.A. suffered habitual epileptic attacks that never evoked hallucinations. Yet upon electrical stimulation of her right superior temporal gyrus she spontaneously exclaimed: 'I have a queer sensation as if I am not here... As though I were half here and half not Here.' She reported that she had never felt this way before, as if she were floating away. Penfield, W. and Erickson, T.C. (1941) Epilepsy and Cerebral
Localization, Charles C. Thomas Stimulation at a depth of 2 cm. along the superior surface of the temporal lobe, within the fissure of Sylvius, caused the patient to say suddenly, "That bitter-sweet taste on my tongue." He seemed confused and made tasting and swallowing movements. The stimulating current was shut off and the electro-corticogram showed that a slow wave 4 per second generalized rhythm had been set up as an after-discharge. While this was continuing the patient exclaimed: "Oh God! I am leaving my body." Dr. Karagulla, who was observing him, said he looked terrified at the time of the exclamation and made gestures as though he sought help. When the electrocorticogram had returned to normal the patient seemed to be himself again. Penfield W. The role of temporal cortex in certain psychical phenomena. J Ment Sci 1955; 101:451-65. What this means? Certain transcranial stimulation will give OBE, naturally, by right parameters and completing. Interestingly- even regardless if one is ready for experience or not. Here an image of prof. Ivry. :grinster:

[Stookie]

Certain transcranial stimulation will give OBE, naturally, by right parameters and completing.

Even though I only understood about 20% of what was presented, I'm assuming this means that an OBE machine is possible right now?

And vibrations are hallucinations caused by mini-seizures?

[David Warner]

Skropenfield,

Think you could condense this down to a VERY simplistic approach and explanation. I could make out some of what it was talking about - but it does sound like a machine that can produce OOBE's by stimulating certain parts of the brain cortex?

If a machine can produce this, think about it, we are humans that can go into the trance state and produce this on our own. I guess if science is trying to validate then to me I would still think its not enough evidence.

Tvos

[skropenfield]

Not "produce" but allow, allow to happen, etc. This is a very, very big difference!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't understand why so many people thinks the metastable symbiosis from subtle bodies with physical  body is guarantied "simply so", without any energy-informative cause. You self "produces" because at certain moment you can produce because certain "astral hold" is switched down. Imagine a metastable symbiosis from dog with kennel guarantied by dog-collar. Certain factor for example machine removes the dog-collar. But further experience (of dog) the dog "produces" self, not the kennel, not the dog-collar and not the machine, because now he can produce this other experience because the dog-collar is removed. :surprise:

[Stookie]

This made me remember something I saw on PBS several months ago:

There was a science show where they were trying to find the "God" part of the brain - the part that makes us either "experience" God or have a feeling of something greater. Well, they had this guy who began having seizures as a teenager (I think), and when he would come out of these seizures he would talk about how he was connected to everything in existence, and how there were no separations between God and everything else. His father spoke about how when he would have these seizures, he would spend the next hour or so talking about "God" and things similar.

There was a scientist on the show that was able to map a part of the brain that was "shut down" at these moments. It was a while ago, so I don't remember any specifics.

[David Warner]

Stookie,

That's interesting!! I wonder if all people that have seizures experience oobe's or dream?

Do you remember what else was said about the conversations with God and the experience?

Tvos

[Stookie]

Look what I just found ( http://www.bibleandscience.com/counseling/godpartbrain.htm ) :

Michael Persinger
At Laurentian University in Sudbury, Canada Michael Persinger has a lab set up to induce religious experiences. A person puts on a motorcycle helmet equipped with electromagnets that product a magnetic field that causes micro seizures (overactive neutrons) in the temporal lobe of the brain. These micro seizures cause spiritual and supernatural experiences. People will feel a sense of presence in the room (like God, angels or aliens), or have an out-of-body experience (like a near-death experience).  

According to Persinger the sense of self is in the left hemisphere of the temporal cortex matched by a corresponding sense of self in the right hemisphere of the temporal cortex. When these two hemispheres become disorientated there will be a sense of another self. When the amygdala is also stimulated, emotional feelings will be enhanced causing intense spiritual feelings.

A number of events can trigger these spiritual or supernatural experiences.  

Very Stressful events-like a car accident, or surgery.      
Decrease in oxygen to the brain- like at very high altitudes. A centrifuge can cause out-of-body experiences.
Extreme changes in blood sugar levels.
Fasting
Many hours of Sleeplessness.
Temporal lobe seizures
Electromagnetic disturbances in the earth
Drugs
Trances from repetitive acts like chanting or dancing, meditation.

Again, with the "micro-seizures".

Other researches have found a link between epilepsy and spirituality. Some would say St. Paul had an epileptic seizure on the road to Damascus. These authors do not think seizures can explain away spiritual experiences because: seizures are frequent and regular with the same voice and message while mystics have a variety of experiences. Hallucinations from seizures are fragmented and dreamlike in nature while mystics are persuaded that their experience was real. Let me add that this does not make it real because you felt or experienced something.

and this... (the link is dead)

God Module" found in human brains. Sunday Times, 11/02/97 http://www.sunday-times.co.uk/news/pages/sti/97/11/02/stinwenws01014.html?1339720 by Steve Connor
Science Correspondent


Quote:

SCIENTISTS believe they have discovered a "God module" in the brain which could be responsible for man's evolutionary instinct to believe in religion. A study of epileptics who are known to have profoundly spiritual experiences has located a circuit of nerves in the front of the brain which appears to become electrically active when they think about God.

The scientists said that although the research and its conclusions are preliminary, initial results suggest that the phenomenon of religious belief is "hard-wired" into the brain.

Epileptic patients who suffer from seizures of the brain's frontal lobe said they frequently experience intense mystical episodes and often become obsessed with religious spirituality.

A team of neuroscientists from the University of California at San Diego said the most intriguing explanation is that the seizure causes an overstimulation of the nerves in a part of the brain dubbed the "God module".

"There may be dedicated neural machinery in the temporal lobes concerned with religion. This may have evolved to impose order and stability on society," the team reported at a conference last week.

The results indicate that whether a person believes in a religion or even in God may depend on how enhanced is this part of the brain's electrical circuitry, the scientists said.

Dr Vilayanur Ramachandran, head of the research team, said the study involved comparing epileptic patients with normal people and a group who said they were intensely religious.

Electrical monitors on their skin – a standard test for activity in the brain's temporal lobes – showed that the epileptics and the deeply religious displayed a similar response when shown words invoking spiritual belief.

This was my google search: http://www.google.com/search?q=seizure%20"god%20part"%20brain
There is a lot there.

[David Warner]

Stookie,

Read through the different links.- very interesting for sure. This would be a incredible break though for science if they could prove that the oobe was triggered by the frontal lobes of the brain.

The only problem that I've is that with Near Death Experiences after the body, blood, respiratory, heart, brain and all activity has ceased. Even when it has been measured for a length of time that the individual has been pronounced dead after 5mins,15mins,35mins and longer then from a miracle they individual returns with a spiritual experience.

I don't think science or a neurosugeon will ever be able to tap consciousness beyond the physical because its on a whole total different level and energy.


Tvos

[skropenfield]

The reductionistic fallacy is common in science, medical science and psychology. It implies implicit “nothing but” in front of some physical relation, with an assumed purely physical hierarchy of sciences. Psychologically, we frequently learn we are nothing but stimulus-response and maybe organism, and that everything can be explained in our brains, genes and bodies. This is currently the default worldview of most scientists.
In this instance, the media particularly has jumped onto- that OBEs can be fully „explained” purely on the basis of stimulating a specific area of the brain. Materialist denies that there is any phenomenon that needs explaining, over and above explaining the various functions: once we have explained how the functions are performed, we have thereby explained everything. Sometimes materialism is expressed by denying that consciousness exists; more often, it is expressed by claiming that consciousness may exist, but only if the term "consciousness" is defined as something like "reportability", or some other functional capacity. Either way, it is asserted that there is no interesting fact about the mind, conceptually distinct from the functional facts. Once we have explained how the functions are performed, that is that. Note that materialism is not merely the view that consciousness is identical to some function, or that it plays a functional role, or that explaining the functions will help us explain consciousness. It is the much stronger view that there is not even a distinct question of consciousness: once we know about the functions that a system performs, we thereby know everything interesting there is to know.Our wish to develop a scientific understanding of consciousness has brought us to a conceptual abyss that we can't span until we develop a new paradigm and new scientific methodologies. The materialist critics argue that insuperable difficulties are encountered by the hypothesis that immaterial mental events can act in any way on material structures such as neurons. Such a presumed action is alleged to be incompatible with the conservation laws of physics, in particular of the first law of thermodynamics. :violin:  This objection would certainly be sustained by nineteenth century physicists. Separating res extensa and res cogitans "give a secure status to the human soul or self.  In certain way admirable are following  sentences in purely academical text „Whereas, some parapsychological authors suggest that OBE might reflect the projection of a subtle, non-physical aspect of one’s personality in extrapersonal space and thus an actual separation of the mind from the body (Muldoon and Carrington, 1929; Crookall, 1964; Rogo, 1982; but see Irwin, 1985; Blackmore, 1982; Alvarado, 1992)...” Out-of-body experience and autoscopy of neurological origin. Olaf Blanke, Theodor Landis, Laurent Spinelli and Margitta Seeck                                          
See Olaf Blankes attempts to declare OBE for identical with multisensory illusions of the entire body related to a failure of integration of proprioceptive, tactile, and visual information of one's body (personal space). A little nightmare for reductionistic approach- overlapping from micropsia (failure...) with partial  „astral senses”, in certain conditions naturally.
 But further „More recently, the importance of vestibular and multisensory mechanisms in out of body experiences was underlined by their occurrence in several patients with such experiences. In addition, vestibular illusions (of elevation, rotation, flying, lightness) and multisensory illusions (of visual limb shortening and movement) could be evoked by electrical stimulation of the same cortical area where higher stimulation currents induced out of body experiences. These data indicate that vestibular illusions, multisensory illusions of body parts (such as visual shortening and movement of limbs and phantom limbs), and multisensory illusions of the entire body (such as out of body experiences) might share similar functional and anatomical mechanisms. Devinsky et al described several patients with out of body experiences caused by circumscribed brain damage and found that lesions predominantly affected the temporal lobe. More recently, our team analysed the lesions of several patients with out of body experiences and found that the temporo-parietal junction was affected in all patients. These patients had epilepsy and migraine. On the basis of these findings, our team proposed a cognitive model for out of body experiences, proposing that they are related to a failure of integration of proprioceptive, tactile, and visual information of one's body (personal space). This may lead to the experience of seeing one's body in a position (that is, on the bed) that does not coincide with the felt position of one's body (that is, under the ceiling). In this model disembodiment and elevated visuospatial perspective during out of body experiences are assumed to be related to additional vestibular dysfunction. In summary, the neurological evidence shows that out of body experiences are related to a disintegration within personal space (multisensory dysfunction) and a disintegration between personal space (vestibular) and extrapersonal space (visual) due to interference with the temporo-parietal junction.”                                                                                                                                                                                              In a recent New York Times column entitled “The Duel Between Body and Soul,” developmental psychologist Paul Bloom describes a conversation he had with his six-year-old son, Max, in which he asked him about the function of the brain: “[Max] said that it is very important and involved in a lot of thinking—but it is not the source of dreaming or feeling sad or loving his brother. Max said that's what he does, though he admitted that his brain might help him out.” Bloom, who clearly aligns himself with the neuroscientific perspective, goes on to explain that “studies from developmental psychology suggest that young children do not see their brain as the source of conscious experience and will. They see it instead as a tool we use for certain mental operations. It is a cognitive prosthesis, added to the soul to increase its computing power.” And, Bloom laments, “This understanding might not be so different from that of many adults.” Charman will be prone to regard mind-field as something like aura. See picture produced by Chuck Shramek. These micro-fields will interact with each other to form a complex, neuromagnetic whole, the Self of this hypothesis...This three- dimensional, neuro-magnetic, field exists as a separate entity from the brain that generates and maintains it...But it shares one property with the brain and that is electro-magnetic induction, by which the energy of each can act upon the other... The locus of the mind resides in the neuromagnetic field, and not in the molecules of the physical brain. Robert A. Charman, The field substance of mind. But even low quality pictures show the story is not as simple about. The woman is trying to astral project, you'll notice her aura shifted from it's normal position around her body and afterwards she described being outside herself - but not very far. She stands on a metal plate that is driven from a high frequency, high voltage Tesla coil. This coil is fed with a "swept" range of low level microwave frequencies that in turn stimulate the body field. The image is picked up using a special CCD (charge coupled detectors), that is sensitive and tuneable to a wide range of frequencies ranging from microwaves to low IR. The second image is when she actively tried to project, she said something was holding her back, keeping her from projecting out. It is quite amazing to see the glowing chakras move to the edge of the skin trying to follow the astral image at the side of the picture. To make the true image, the subject is simultaneously videotaped with a standard video camera. That visible image is then superimposed on top of the actual aura field to yield the composite images that we see (with exposure of less than 15 seconds).Compare-This is an image of collectively meditating people. Several people, seating in a circle, form a collective field, which is definitely expressed and is common for them.           This in an image of a person who is actively meditating. One can definitely see a global structure of a torsion field, or subtle energies. There are three streams here, one of them coming from the person, and two parallel ones.  Also http://www.shipov.com/science.htmlThis is supposing the astral body of well-known magi Boris Monosov. We see certain egg-like form what corresponds with introverted clairvoyance info concerning astral body as such (...not human figure what were a bit naive popular expectations). Vertical egg- male projector!   Obviously the picture is obtained not „directly”, rather the projecting astral body has stood certain space of time in this dark corner with ensuing beginning of weak shining in corresponding segment of quantum vacuum. The „astralness” reminds a bit of Axion Detection via Consistent Radiographic Findings after Exposure to a Torsion Generator. The consciousness may be is not visible. So fine the picture isn’t.http://www.journaloftheoretics.com/Articles/4-1/Benford-axion.htm%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20http://www.stealthskater.com/Documents/Consciousness_04.doc%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20http://web.archive.org/web/20040725161215/http://rajatiede.org/paradocs/tutkimuksia/pitkanen2002.pdf%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20http://www.surrey.ac.uk/qe/pdfs/cemi_theory_paper.pdf%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20http://www.surrey.ac.uk/qe/pdfs/mcfadden_JCS2002b.pdf%20http://instruct1.cit.cornell.edu/courses/psych113/OutofBody.pdf%20%20%20%20%20%20%20http://bmj.com/cgi/content/full/329/7480/1414%20%20%20%20http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/ijlink?linkType=ABST&journalCode=brain&resid=127/2/243%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20http://www.psy.gla.ac.uk/docs/events/download.php?id=572%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20%20http://nro.sagepub.com/cgi/content/abstract/11/1/16%20http://www.mindmatter.de/mmpdf/metzinger.pdf%20http://www.survivalafterdeath.org/articles/braude/obe.htm%20%20http://www.citizenculture.com/about/neurotheolo.pdfSynthesis Of Science And Religion.
[...] ... we will define this writing as simply an interesting look into quantum-statistical methods of simulating energy-informational processes.
... Boris Iskakov who was born in Magnitogorsk on November 14, 1934. He is a graduate of the Institute of Physical Engineering in Moscow.
... In this work he endeavors to synthesize elements of science and religion. Dr. Iskakov has recently been interrogated.
Mathematical Transformations.
The equations of Schrodinger and Dirac, well known in quantum physics, describe the laws of the conservation of probability for fluxes of matter at the level of elementary particles of the microworld. By means of certain mathematical transformations Dr. Iskakov obtained equivalent equations of a much broader applicability. They describe the laws of the conservation of probability for fluxes of matter, energy, and information. The equations have a deep philosophical meaning, which extends far beyond the interpretation of the Schrodinger and Dirac equations. An appropriate name for them is, in my view, suggested by a doctrine of Oriental philosophy--karma. In a narrow sense, it claims that every deed or thought, good or bad, receives due reward or retribution. In a broader sense, it denotes the principle of unity, integrity, and inter-conditionality and causality in the Universe. That is how I construe the term "equations of karma", which describe any cause-and-effect relationship.
What Is The "Equation Of Karma"?
The study of psychic phenomena dictated the need to define the concept of the information-energy field. Its material medium, according to contemporary notions, may be a global lepton gas, consisting of extremely light particles, microleptons, with a mass of 10^-40 - 10^-30 g. Microleptons are much lighter than electrons and are capable of freely penetrating any body in the Universe. The gaps between atomic nuclei are for them just as spacious as are the holes in a fishing net for molecules of air.
The idea of a microlepton gas appears to echo the 19th-century notion of the universal ether, but is scientifically much more complex and profound. What we are talking about in this case is no longer an ideal space-pervading fluid, but a quantum-granular structure of the space-time continuum, filled with whirling streams of polarized microleptons (including some virtually vacuum-born).
Such an approach enables us to use the mathematical apparatus of quantum mechanics to describe the information-energy field. Moreover, relationships of a higher level of generalization are derived than the classical equations of Schrodinger. The new equations describe not only the movements of matter, but also the development of the totality of interconnections, signals, events, and processes. The special term introduced for such relationships is "equations of karma". As for karma, it is understood to mean a broad philosophical category of universal inter-conditionality, causality, and dependence in combination with the principle of the unity and integrity of the Universe. There are two equations of karma--the direct and the complex-conjugated:
      AY=0; A'Y'=0;

     where the operators have the form

      A=2h^2V + i2h o/o t-9;
      A'=2h^2V - i2h o/o t-9.
Here Y denotes the probability density wave (the wave function); V, the Laplace operator; 9, the potential energy density, and h, Planck's constant.
These equations may be solved in the form of karma waves and anti-waves with quantization of probability waves. Connected with them are perturbations of the information-energy field, i.e., wave signals. In principle, such signals may propagate faster than light.
The equations of karma make it possible to draw certain philosophical conclusions of fundamental significance. It follows from them that diffraction takes place not only in space but also in time. Any event is, so to speak, split in space-time. The propagation of a solitary signal is preceded by a series of pre- signals and followed by post-signals, both fading with distance. Perceptive analysts are able to use the first intimations of pre-signals to give a precise picture of a coming event. This is called scientific foresight. But there is also intuitive prevision. Centuries ago clairvoyants described events that are happening in our time.
Pre-signals provide an explanation of relative proscopy--when a sensitive person learns about an event before others do. Such a person detects faint pre-signals that most people do not perceive.
For instance, an explosion on the Sun may produce solar prominences extending for millions of kilometers. Two or three days later the "solar wind" reaches the Earth, causing powerful geomagnetic storms that affect everything living. During such periods, disease and mortality rates increase in all countries.
This dependence of everything living upon solar catastrophes was proved several decades ago by Alexander Chizhevsky. Can we learn of the approaching "solar winds" in advance? It appears that we can. The solar wind has presignals: swift streams of solar photons an neutrinos, which reach the Earth in eight minutes. By detecting them it is possible to warn the medical services of all countries of an imminent geomagnetic storm two or three days in advance, ample time to take the necessary measures.
From the theoretical standpoint the works of the eminent Russian researcher Anatoly Okhatrin are of definite interest. They confirm the idea of an ether or universal lepton gas, which contains full information about the material world. Clusters of the lightest particles--microleptons--carry people's thoughts and feelings; these microleptons are capable of travelling in space and time at tremendous speeds.
The speed of light is a limiting factor only for a continuous stream of speeds, the so-called continuum. However, greater speed levels, in excess of the speed of light, are possible for extremely weak signals.
Okhatrin's experiments and calculations show that people's thoughts are carried by the lightest microleptons. And the equations of karma prove that they can travel much faster than light. This justifies the conclusion that humanity's potential in getting to understarnd the Universe is practically boundless.
Up to now it was considered that our potential in the conquest of outer space is limited by what is known as the pessimistic radius of Poincare-Einstein. If we multiply the speed of light by the human life span, we arrive at the limit that even the most sophisticated spaceships cannot surpass. No generation of spacemen can explore the Universe beyond that radius [it says].
But from the equations of karma it follows that at the level of extremely weak signals we can reach out far beyond the Poincare- Einstein sphere. Material thought can travel to distant regions of the Universe at a speed greater than that of light. Man can obtain information about what is happening at any distance from him. This is a fundamental philosophical conclusion that allows humanity to look to the future with optimism.
I arrived at this conclusion by considering the equations of karma. But then, many scientists before me have reflected on the synthesis of science and religion, among them the founders of quantum physics. What are termed the conjugated equations of Schrodinger and Dirac point to the possibility of the existence of anti-particles. Similarly, the conjugated equation of karma suggests that there can be anti-signals as well as anti-particles. More- over, this equation makes it possible to describe the spectrum of properties that these anti-signals possess. While ordinary signals travel along the river of time from the past via the present into the future, anti-signals travel in the opposite direction. They originate in the future and pass through the present into the past. This property of anti-signals stuns our imagination: certain particularly sensitive people and instruments can, it turns out, receive signals from the future.
Previsions, predictions, and prophesies come under the scientific heading of absolute proscopy, which implies the acquisition of information about events that have not yet taken place. They have yet to occur, but sensitives already know about them.
The problem is merely one of the threshold of sensitivity and the balance of signals and noise. Anti-signals come from the future at a faint and very faint level. Very few people can detect them.
There is no violation here of the principle of causality. Rather, its interpretation becomes more sophisticated and more refined dialectically. According to the equations of karma, time in the microworld can reverse its direction, turning, as it were, into "anti time". From a single point it is possible to see both the past and the future of microparticles at the same time.
We can receive information about the future only at the probability level. Only the strategic parameters of a human fate are pre-determined. But freedom of choice too is preserved: a person is free to take any decisions and bears full responsibility for them. A person shapes his or her destiny and pays for the consequences of those decisions. Thus, there is a predetermined part of the future, which a person cannot change, and there is a probable or variable part, for which he is responsible.
Solving stationary equations can yield curious results. Waves emitted and absorbed by hundreds of biologically active points are superimposed on one another and form a series of standing waves, which surround the human body. The body turns out to be nothing more than a dense nucleus shrouded on all sides by a number of energy-information holograms. The shape of the first hologram follows that of the human body, but is enlarged and rounded, remotely resembling a spacesuit. Actually, this hologram contains all the information about the body and is carried by microleptons orbiting along the quantum shell, the boundary of the first hologram. The second hologram and its shell are larger and carry weakened information, which is more difficult to decipher. The same may be said of the third and subsequent shells. The more remote shells are more rounded in shape, changing from a spacesuit to an egg and then to a sphere. Our atomic-molecular body is "clad" in microlepton holograms, each of which carries complete but weakened information about the person, including his or her innermost thoughts and feelings, his or her mind and conscience. It may be said that the sum-total of these holograms is nothing short of a person's lepton soul.
Ordinarily, people do not see the energy-information shells that surround them. But in certain conditions it is possible to make the first hologram glow, especially the part of it surrounding a person's head. The fact is that upper chakras, the most power-intensive, operate at the highest frequencies. Some people have a first quantum shell that can become visible.
Estimates show that the energy of the first shell amounts to fractions of an electron-volt. This is quite enough for a faint glow in the optical range of the spectrum. But for the glow to become a reality a great deal of energy has to be pumped into the upper chakras. This means a person has to adopt a definite mode of life: overcome base passions, and make his or her thoughts, feelings, and deeds pure, lofty and inspired. It is in that case that the energy of the upper chakras causes the excitation of the first shell by fractions of an electron-volt, and a halo visible to other people appears around the head of such a person (for example, a saint).
In Christian art, only part of the hologram around the head is usually portrayed as glowing. But in Buddhist temples, there are pictures showing the whole spacesuit-shaped hologram aglow.
The most ancient Buddhist manuscripts speak of a person's seven bodies: one dense and six subtle. The first hologram is called the ethereal body; the second, the astral body; the third, the mental body, and so forth. The lepton hypothesis allows a larger number of holograms.
Judging from the equations of karma, we humans are infinitely "larger" and our lives are infinitely longer than we are accustomed to think. This means that each person is a factor of Cosmic significance.
Moreover, analysis reveals that inanimate objects as well as Homo Sapiens and other living beings have holograms of this kind.
Consider the implications of this. If each body is present, at the information level, throughout the Cosmos, then in every small region of space-time there must be, if only super-weak, information about the entire Universe.
Gautama Buddha's famous dictum states "everything is in everything" and, hence, "everything is in the small." In an expanded form this may be taken to mean that every point of space-time "knows" everything about all the other points.
But if every zone of space "knows" everything, it is a most complete encyclopaedia, in infinite storage of knowledge about the Universe . All that is needed is to learn how to plug into this source of information, which can tell a person about anything and everything in the world.
It follows from the lepton hypothesis that the soul is real and material. A human being, in the customary sense of the term, is nothing but a dense nucleus around which streams of leptons circulate. The totality of lepton shells is a cold bioplasma, which contains complete information about the nucleus. Thus, it can be termed a person's lepton soul. This notion has a quite precise materialistic content.
According to the lepton concept, thoughts and feelings are material. They are carried by superweak pulses of electromagnetic and microlepton fields. Visual, audible, and other images, and all thoughts and feelings, exist in the form of clusters of superlight elementary particles. This brings to mind Plato's inspired guess that all eidoses, i.e., ideas or thoughts, exist autonomously, "float in the air" and recognize no boundaries.
Plato intuitively arrived at that conclusion over two thousand years ago. Today we can put this into the language of mathematical formulae. We can measure the mass of a single human thought. Its weight varies from 10^-30 to 10^-40 g. To be sure, the opinion of sensitives and Okhatrin's experiments cannot serve as proof. Similar investigations have to be carried out at other laboratories. This will furnish the statistical data for reliable conclusions. If they confirm Okhatrin's findings, he will become the author of the greatest discovery of the latter half of the 20th century.
Thoughts and feelings generated by human beings begin their independent existence in space and time. Both theory and experiments show that these eidoses are capable of exchanging information. What is most important of all is that one person's thoughts can occur to other people. Eidoses are like small living beings, but at the lepton level of matter. Thoughts and feelings are our offspring, who communicate with one another and with us in a language of super-weak signals.
Estimates show that during a lifetime a person generates millions and even billions of eidoses. This makes it clear that we bear an enormous responsibility before the whole of humankind and before ourselves for what our offspring, i.e., our thoughts and feelings, will be like.
When our offspring are noble eidoses of kindness, love, mercy, mutual assistance, truth, beauty, and harmony, we contribute to the health of humanity's leptonosphere. But when we beget malformed eidoses, i.e., evil, envious, cowardly, vain, and arrogant thoughts and feelings, we thereby pollute the leptonosphere we inhabit. Should the negative eidoses exceed a certain critical mass, humankind will be doomed. At present our survival depends to a great extent on the ecology of the spirit.
Here we also come up against a legal problem. Mere criminal intent is not yet a crime at the atomic-molecular level, but when a person conceives, say, a murder, he or she spawns criminal eidoses, which contaminate humankind's leptonosphere.
That is why when someone steers a nation or country onto a road leading to disaster, that person commits the gravest offence above all against the whole of humanity. Although economic and political catastrophe is still many years off, it has already taken place at the lepton level, in the public mind. The collapse of a vast State can contaminate humanity's leptonosphere to such a degree that humanity's very existence becomes threatened. And no clan, no state, nor coalition that conceived such a crime against other nations can survive.
The lepton hypothesis can provide a scientific explanation of the essence of God. When congregations gather in their temples, they create eidoses of prayer, which assemble into a collective egregor-eidos of a deity. When millions of people worship it, the material deity eidos acquires tremendous energy at the lepton level of matter. There arises feedback: a believer not only supplies the deity with energy, but receives genuine assistance from it upon supplication. There exist eidoses of Christ, Buddha, and Allah, and they actually interact with their Worshippers when the latter tune into the proper frequencies. This is something like a deposit in a savings bank--it helps the client at at a time of need. The microlepton "savings bank" is not responsible for other banks' clients: there is no resonance correspondence between them. Alien gods hold no power over a flock--only their own God has such powers.
Gods, thus, actually exist at the lepton level of matter. In fact, the world religions describe different aspects of one and the same Supreme Rational Being. All the people of the Earth worship a single God, but in His multiple manifestations.
After the death of a person's atomic-molecular nucleus, his or her lepton holograms may take different courses. Some of them may likewise disintegrate. But this happens only to the holograms that are made up of the heavier microleptons. Estimates show that the relatively heavy holograms have a natural half-life of seven to nine days; their ninety-nine percent decay takes about forty days.
Thus, the meaning of the funeral repast on the 9th and the 40th day (in accordarnce with the Orthodox faith) is that the living emit eidoses that recharge the dead person's soul with energy and information to help it undergo the necessary changes in the lepton world. Thanks to these rites, relatively heavy lepton holograms can survive much longer. A reliable supply of living people's thoughts and feelings can extend the life span of the heavy fractions of a dead person's soul from forty days to several millennia. As long as a person is remembered and his or her days of birth and death are observed, that person's soul is preserved almost intact, just as it was when the person was alive. One can communicate with it by means of special techniques known to mystics.
The soul also has medium and light fractions. We cannot yet verify this experimentally, but there is reason to think that their half-lives and total decay periods are much longer than those of the heavy fractions. It is even quite possible that the lightest fractions live eternally--the soul is immortal according to all the world religions. So far science cannot confirm or deny this in strict terms. This problem remains unsolved and requires an experimental solution.

(Hatonn's comments) The next most logical question might well be , "Isn't there any way to measure this lepton energy or aura?" Yes indeed and again the only ALLOWED presentation comes silently from Russia. There are two scientists--the engineer and inventor Uri Kravchenko and the physician Nikolai Kalashchenko--who have developed an original instrument: the phase aurometer. This is a highly sensitive instrument for the remote measurement of the electromagnetic radiation of any object, biological included. A Certificate of Authorship issued in 1990 protects the instrument and the method. This is an easy-to-prove concept and because of this implication I will not introduce much about it other than generalities about which much has been shared. This is something which Dr. Young has already devised though he doesn't recognize it as this and I would think would remind our own "thinkerers" that this is nothing more than a measuring device or a production device for electro-magnetic fields MEASURED IN HERTZ.
The particular phase aurometer in point is only for measurement or recordimhg a "patient's" own radiation by a contact-free method and has no impact whatever on the environment. BUT, LISTEN UP: THE APPLICATIONS OF THE PHASE AUROMETER CAN BE CONSIDERABLY EXPANDED FURTHER INTO, FOR EXAMPLE, DOWSING, TESTING FOLK HEALERS AND SENSITIVES AND SUCH SEEMINGLY DISTANT FIELDS AS AGRICULTURAL SELECTION OR CONSTRUCTION AND PERFORMANCE SUPERVISION.
BEC media posited for consciousness

Assuming a material world, the non-local properties of consciousness  suggest that it must exist in a macroscopic coherent quantum medium, called a Bose-Einstein Condensate (BEC) that is meters in extent and perhaps global. Known BECs such as super-fluids and superconductors only exist near absolute zero. To explain consciousness the BEC medium must exist at room temperature.

The presumption of a BEC medium to explain our visible, waking or physical consciousness underlies both the early Frolich/Marshall (where the medium is a coherent field of membrane dipoles) and the more recent Penrose/Hameroff microtubule-medium model. Both models require metabolic excitation to a state of thermodynamic non-equilibrium (see Hagan, QM2003), consistent with a physical consciousness that can turn off and turn on, as in sleeping and waking.

Some such model is perhaps the best explanation of waking consciousness. However, such models are local in nature, confined to the human brain and probably even microscopic aspects of the brain. Because of the non-local nature of some forms of consciousness, another medium is needed, one that might even explain consciousness in the sleep state. A secondary medium would also serve to integrate the perhaps microscopic processes of physical consciousness.

Quoting Piero Scaruffi from his site http://www.thymos.com/tat/consc3.html
“The fascination with Bose-Einstein condensates is that they are the most highly ordered structures in nature (before their discovery by Albert Einstein and Satyendranath Bose, that record was owned by crystals). The order is such that each of their constituents appears to occupy all their space and all their time: for all purposes the constituents of a Bose-Einstein condensate share the same identity. In other words, the constituents behave just like one constituent (the photons of a laser beam behave just like one photon) and the Bose-Einstein condensate behaves like one single particle. Another odd feature of Bose-Einstein condensates is that they seem to possess a primitive form of free will.”-
Cosmic Axions

Cosmic Axions were generated in the Big Bang. They differ from all other Dark Matter candidates in that they were (presumably) created in primordial symmetry breaking processes. All the other candidates were created in thermal processes and have thermal velocities, including the thermal axions presently being created in the sun. Cosmic axions are then unique in that they essentially are fixed in space. They seemingly have no inherent initial motion or momentum. They are at or very close to the temperature of absolute zero.

They are therefore referred to as cold dark matter and are often called the cosmic axion field, a coherent Bose-Einstein Condensate (BEC) that surrounds and permeates galaxies. Superconductors and superfluids like Helium at near absolute zero are also BECs. At these temperatures electron or atom wave functions have macroscopic (millimeter+) extension. As wave function extent depends inversely on the mass of the particle, and the mass of an axion is one billionth that of an electron, the axion wave function extends well beyond the earth. The axion fluid must then be a BEC at room temperatures, and perhaps even at solar temperatures. If the scaling to infinitesimal mass holds up, thermal as well as cosmic axions behave coherently over global scales.

Yet they are extremely numerous. If they are a major constituent of dark matter, there must be more than a 10 trillion axions for every proton and neutron in the universe. If the symmetry breaking process produced cosmic axions before matter and anti-matter recombined, then the number of axions is comparable to the number of photons in the universe.

According to physicist John Cramer, "Axions have a geometrical resemblance to an electric and a magnetic field oriented parallel to each other. In theory, this property can be exploited to convert axions into photons (radio/light/gamma-rays) through the use of intense electric and/or magnetic fields. If cosmic axions were converted to photons, their estimated mass-energy would make electromagnetic microwaves like those used in home microwave ovens.”
Reference:
 
http://mist.npl.washington.edu/av/altvw05.html

I'm assuming this means that an OBE machine is possible right now?

All is possible, but do you see anywhere the volunteers ready for PRACTICAL EXPERIMENTS...I mean really guaranteed OBE induction, not a harmless baby toy like even Persinger helmet. :yikes2:  :yikes2:  :yikes2:

[The Present Moment]

Even though I only understood about 20% of what was presented, I'm assuming this means that an OBE machine is possible right now?

And vibrations are hallucinations caused by mini-seizures?

I have never seen a scientific experiment that caused a person to astral project or explore outside of their body. Epilepsy and electrical stimulation can cause all sorts of bizarre illusions, but it's not AP. My theory is this: when people OBE, they are using trance/meditation to deactivate parts of the brain which 'trap' them inside their body, freeing them to explore other places. This is no more proof that the experience is a hallucination than normal neurological conditions are proof of waking reality.

Edit- I want to make sure that last sentence is clear: If we say that AP/OBE is a hallucination because it is dependent on neurological conditions, then we can also say the same of waking reality.

[skropenfield]

OK, let us repeat. An excellent achievement of Olaf Blanke is that he fixed the EXACT position of  epileptic focus by some patients what excludes certain popular confusion and misunderstanding. OK, what we see by some patients? Epileptic focus exactly in TPJ- accurate inhibition of TPJ- pure and accurate experience EVERY TIME and nothing else, if  also one person (from Blanke's patients) was prevalently drifted to somewhere in Earth orbit we must not forget she's fright and absolute subjective passivity. What criteria of  authenticity of experience do you have, "triggered" or not? For example a few clairvoyants say that  "subtle bodies" creep out from physical body and go away for example 2 km or some kind of apparatus shows the same. There you have your objective criteria in sense of outer empiricism of natural sciences, that's all. "Triggering" doesn't necessary mean that you have hallucinations, consciousness is not the same as brain currents!!!!!!! And "bizarre illusions" are not an objective criteria of authenticity. I think the "projecting entity" may lie in different states of consciousness. Simple but also confusing for so many people!!! Lack of  "official" experiments in sense of OBE induction. It is a bit naive to expect such experiments. Olaf Blanke accidentally has carried out 1 experiment, but  nevertheless the electrical current was a bit insufficient, we must not forget the very strict brain stimulation guidelines. Nobody will even dare to undertake such experiments, I mean "officially", academically "seriously", etc., it is clear. Some kind of result was obtained accidentally. Also by TMS brain research...statistically some of  experimental subjects are familiar with OBEs and these people sometimes are screaming- "what is this- initial OBE symptoms?". :heh:

[The Present Moment]

What criteria of authenticity of experience do you have, "triggered" or not?

Good point... I don't have one.

"Triggering" doesn't necessary mean that you have hallucinations, consciousness is not the same as brain currents!!!!!!! And "bizarre illusions" are not an objective criteria of authenticity.

Yes, I contradicted myself.  

[David Warner]

skropenfield,

Do you think epilepsy is a form of the vibrations?

Tvos

[skropenfield]

Not really epilepsy, you don't have brain pathology!!!! Simply the brains of some people are prone to membrane fusion and to recurrent low-level epileptogene foci what ALLOWS the "vibrations", sometimes even without great efforts.  :celebrate:

[David Warner]

skropenfield,

so what is your take on the vibrations? physical or chakra ignited?

tvos