Frequency / Density

[Pyro21]

Whenever I read about the planes the words frequency and density come up alot.

Does frequency and density refer to the same thing when it's referring to the planes or do they mean different things?

[kurtykurt42]

Frequency is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit time. It is also referred to as temporal frequency. The period is the duration of one cycle in a repeating event, so the period is the reciprocal of the frequency. The unit of frequency is hertz (Hz), named after the German physicist Heinrich Hertz. For example, 1 Hz means that an event repeats once per second.



Density refers to the planes or dimensions of our existence. This is related to the charachtertics of the energy and also has to do with the center of galaxies. The closer your energy body / physical body is to the center of the galaxy the lighter it will be and the higher the density will also be. Right now our physical bodies occupy the 3rd density level and when we die our energy bodies are in the 4th density.

7th Density - Lightbody [Pleiadians are up here]

6th Density - Mental  [single bug mind is here, animal oneness, human minds also are here but all separate not oneness]

5th Density - Angelic Beings [Blue light body] First experience with infinite Love of the universe. ArchAngels. Blue shield, divine space that we own as soul, and no one else can touch it.

4th Density - Ghosts, Astral entities, Animals are grouped also. UFOs, Upper side has many humans enveloped in emotion. Lower side is the Grays territory.

3rd Density - Physical body 7 chakra inside the body. All animals and humans are separate beings here. Animals do not bring heart emotion or grudges down here. Humans do.

[Myxo]

I have seen grays 2 times, I hate them, I felt them undefeatable, is a good information what you´ve posted here, thanks.

[RisingSon]

7th Density - Lightbody [Pleiadians are up here]

6th Density - Mental  [single bug mind is here, animal oneness, human minds also are here but all separate not oneness]

5th Density - Angelic Beings [Blue light body] First experience with infinite Love of the universe. ArchAngels. Blue shield, divine space that we own as soul, and no one else can touch it.

4th Density - Ghosts, Astral entities, Animals are grouped also. UFOs, Upper side has many humans enveloped in emotion. Lower side is the Grays territory.

3rd Density - Physical body 7 chakra inside the body. All animals and humans are separate beings here. Animals do not bring heart emotion or grudges down here. Humans do.

Interesting post - thanks!  These levels are verified by your personal experiences?  For instance, how do you know that the single bug mind is in the 6th density?  I'm not trying to be a wise guy here, I'm actually interested in your findings and how you verify them.

[kurtykurt42]

That's actually a pretty funny story. A very talented astral projector from my group had a huge bug infestation in his home for about a week. This happened about 2 months ago in the middle of winter when there are usually never any bugs around. He was able to astral project and find cords of energy connected to the bugs reaching all the way up into the 6th density. Now he is able to see a fly, follow the cord up to the 6th and talk with the collective bug mind.

I use to have a ton of bugs over here at my place. Then I found a humongous centipede and let him go out the window. The next day I was going to the grocery store and I saw the centipede on the ground right below the window with several broken legs, unable to move. I slid him onto a piece of paper and took him into the basement. I raised my energy into my green heart chakra and spent about 5 minutes healing the little guy. I then touched him and he took off running! I then carried him back outside and he ran off. Since then I haven't seen a single bug in my house.

[Myxo]

That's actually a pretty funny story. A very talented astral projector from my group had a huge bug infestation in his home for about a week. This happened about 2 months ago in the middle of winter when there are usually never any bugs around. He was able to astral project and find cords of energy connected to the bugs reaching all the way up into the 6th density. Now he is able to see a fly, follow the cord up to the 6th and talk with the collective bug mind.

I use to have a ton of bugs over here at my place. Then I found a humongous centipede and let him go out the window. The next day I was going to the grocery store and I saw the centipede on the ground right below the window with several broken legs, unable to move. I slid him onto a piece of paper and took him into the basement. I raised my energy into my green heart chakra and spent about 5 minutes healing the little guy. I then touched him and he took off running! I then carried him back outside and he ran off. Since then I haven't seen a single bug in my house.

D:

[Xanth]

That's actually a pretty funny story. A very talented astral projector from my group had a huge bug infestation in his home for about a week. This happened about 2 months ago in the middle of winter when there are usually never any bugs around. He was able to astral project and find cords of energy connected to the bugs reaching all the way up into the 6th density. Now he is able to see a fly, follow the cord up to the 6th and talk with the collective bug mind.

I use to have a ton of bugs over here at my place. Then I found a humongous centipede and let him go out the window. The next day I was going to the grocery store and I saw the centipede on the ground right below the window with several broken legs, unable to move. I slid him onto a piece of paper and took him into the basement. I raised my energy into my green heart chakra and spent about 5 minutes healing the little guy. I then touched him and he took off running! I then carried him back outside and he ran off. Since then I haven't seen a single bug in my house.

Do they not sell cans of RAID where you live?  O_o

[kurtykurt42]

The point here is that you aren't supposed to kill them. They are testing our species to see if we are evolved enough to comprehend that these 'bugs' are actually higher dimensional life forms.

[Xanth]

And sometimes a bug is just a bug.
While I don't go out of my way to kill a bug (because in the end, they too are life and deserve to live)... I also don't allow them to "pester" me.

[personalreality]

Frequency is also relevant to us as projectors of consciousness because of the brainwave patterns we alter in order to project consciousness into the astral or raising the vibratory rate of our bodies for higher density travel.  We slow our brainwave frequency to induce what we call a trance state.  This is important because it is within the trance state that our attention on the connection to the 3rd is reduced to a degree that would allow us to refocus that attention into the astral.

As for the higher dimensional travel, I believe that the astral provides an ideal launch pad to move to these other frequencies.  When you move to the astral you have refocused your attention to inner realms, to a place where you are much closer to the mechanisms in your being that control the energetic levels and focus while in the 3rd density.  Because you are now closer to the source of your "essence" as it becomes manifest in our normal 3rd density experience it becomes much easier for you to raise the energetic frequency of your physical body.  We would view this action as "projecting the energy body" to higher realms.  Also, I have a suspicion that the Astral (which is a term I use to refer to the entire collective consciousness of beings in reality, and per Kurt's input that may be confined to each galaxy) is of a frequency system foreign to the density levels.  By this I mean, the Astral is different, it is a realm of mind while the density levels are essentially higher frequency versions of what we think of as space-time.  So, it is easier to move into the astral and the move out of it into a higher density level because all beings, no matter what density level they're on, can project into the astral.  If you project to the astral, raise your energy there (which like I said should be easier because you're closer to the place in your mind that controls how spiritual energy is brought to and used in your body) and then "return" to the physical only in a higher density.  Naturally, if you develop enough you could bypass this process and move directly to higher densities from the 3rd without having to go to the astral.  The astral is like our moon, if we set up a permanent base on the moon it would be much cheaper and easier to launch space missions because the gravity is minimal in comparison and fuel is relatively abundant (hydrogen).  The astral functions in a similar way, the "gravity" (habitual focus of attention) is lower and fuel is abundant (spiritual energy).

Sorry, that last bit was slightly irrelevant.  But I think it's important to see the difference between the frequency levels relative to the density levels and the frequency levels (of lack thereof) relative to the astral or imaginal realms.

[kurtykurt42]

I've been working on my equations from the other post, and here is what I have come up with.

The golden ratio (phi) = 1.618

The 3rd density is phi x phi = 2.62
The 4th density is 1/Phi x 1/phi  = .382
The 5th density is 1/Phi^3 x 1/phi^3  = .0557
The 6th density is 1/Phi^5 x 1/phi^5  = .0081
The 7th density is 1/Phi^7 x 1/phi^7  = .0012

4th density (.382) x 7 = 2.6, which means the 4th density is about 7 times smaller than the 3rd.

5th density (.0557) x 47 = 2.62, which means the 5th density is about 47 times smaller than the 3rd.

6th density (.0081) x 324 = 2.62, which means the 6th density is about 324 times smaller than the 3rd.

7th density (.0012) x 2185 = 2.62, which means the 7th density is about 2,185 times smaller than the 3rd.

My theory is that the energetic vacuum density (gravity) of these dimensions is also dependent on these sizes. Meaning that the gravity of the 5th density is about 47 times that of normal 3rd density earth gravity. And the gravity at the galactic center (7th density) is about 2,185 times earths gravity.

47 / 7 = 6.7 (5th density is 6.7x 'denser' than 4th)

20 min = (20 * 60 = 1200 sec)

1200 / 6.7 = 179 sec

179 / 60 = 3 minutes

20 minutes (in the 4th) = 3 minutes (in the 5th)

I've been spending time in the 5th density (or they have been coming down to the 4th) with several individuals that have been explaining to me how all this gravity / energy is related to the galactic center.  They explained that as you move into other galaxies the gravity may be much different than this galaxy. 100,000 times earth gravity and higher is possible on some of the planets in the higher dimensional planes. Although, time and space seem to share similar characteristics throughout the Universe.

[Myxo]

I've been working on my equations from the other post, and here is what I have come up with.

Can u give me the link of the post please?

The golden ratio (phi) = 1.618

The 3rd density is phi x phi = 2.62
The 4th density is 1/Phi x 1/phi  = .382
The 5th density is 1/Phi^3 x 1/phi^3  = .0557
The 6th density is 1/Phi^5 x 1/phi^5  = .0081
The 7th density is 1/Phi^7 x 1/phi^7  = .0012

where do you get that sucesion of the potences? "1, 3, 5, 7" and how do you get that formulas? :O... Thank you.

[kurtykurt42]

My equations regarding the golden ratio shows how our dimension (3rd density) makes up over 50% of the galaxy. Which means that it occupies more space then all the other dimensions combined. Which of course would probably also mean that it is the most densely populated dimension throughout the galaxy.

[Myxo]

My equations regarding the golden ratio shows how our dimension (3rd density) makes up over 50% of the galaxy. Which means that it occupies more space then all the other dimensions combined. Which of course would probably also mean that it is the most densely populated dimension throughout the galaxy.

I got some values starting from the golden number, I´ve defined 3rd dimention like X getting the next proportion:




If we would have a dispositive to adjust our reality perceptioin, it would be our own brain, but is a theory I don't know if the values of the brain hz follow this proportion of numbers to connect us to the next dimentional planes, for example:

Beta waves:      13-28 hz    the average between this humbers--- 13+28/2= 20.50 hz
Alpha Waves:     8-12 hz                                                         8+12/2= 10.00  hz
Theta Waves:    3.5-7.5 hz                                                     3.5+7.5/2=   5.5 hz
Delta Waves:     0.2-3.0 hz                                                    0.20+3.5/2= 1.85 hz
(all of this are aproximated values)

20.50/10.50= 2.05  hz
10.50/5.50= 1.90   hz
5.50/1.85=   1.85   hz

Maybe brain waves have some relation with plane frecuencies, as long it get slow maybe it can receive higer dimentional frequencies to free our minds to that realms, I can see the frecuencies relation start to get closer to 1.618 as the Fibonacci sequence.

1, 1, 2, 3, 5, 8, 13, 21, 34, 55, 89, 144, 233...etc.

2/1=2
3/2=1.5
5/3=1.66666666
8/5=1.6
13/8=1.625
21/13=1.615
34/21=1.619
55/34=1.6176
89/55=1.61818181818...
144/89=1.6179...
233/144=1.61805555...




The most higher the dimention is, the most larger the time perception we receive respect to the phisical plane(maybe this is the reason what we dream like 2 hours and after wake up, the clock has just advanced the half or less).

If dimentions get smaller in size and higher in vibration speed, it must get time perception altered as well, like relativity theory of Einstein.

So the other planes raise the particle velocity and, if we get 50% closer of light speed(150000 km/s) we get half in size, the perception of time and biological functions are reduced to half, and so on (until the infinite although we feel it normal), then our energy increase (I think you can make explode a house with a single pebble xD throwed with enough speed).

Our brain is the dispositive who attach us to the 3rd reality, like humans, we are enough evolved to step in the edge between the phisical reality and the other dimentional realities, and after death I bet we can transcend getting our vibrations higher enough, the most higher our vibrations be, the more higher perception of reality and larger perception of time we'll get on higher planes and our consciousness will stand more time there until the infinite(higher vibrational would be inverse to brain frequency).


All of this are detached ideas(maybe not), perhaps it can throw some light to your research, perhaps you have inquiry about it.

[Myxo]

Huu? any opinion?

[cpt. picard]

hmmm... not long ago I posted a question where i asked if the galaxies and planets etc had anything to do with the placement of the astral and other planes. Most people told me that was rubbish, but I guess it kinda makes sense. It just raises the question of what astral planes in other galaxies would be like. I also would like to know how you guys know the 4th and 5ht densities etc are different then astral/mental planes. Every website i found regarding "densities" basically used them as synonyms for the etheric/astral/mental/causal etc. Also, are you implying that near the galactic core there is no physical plane, or are you just saying the other densities overlap there? Couldnt tell if your drawings were more or less abstract or if they are actually representations of a spiral galaxy. Anyways, interesting topic, hope you hear more about it.

[kurtykurt42]

I also would like to know how you guys know the 4th and 5ht densities etc are different then astral/mental planes. Every website i found regarding "densities" basically used them as synonyms for the etheric/astral/mental/causal etc.

It's different from the astral plane because there are worlds with 'people' on them. While the astral plane seems to be inside your mind or somehow connected with your mind. 

Also, are you implying that near the galactic core there is no physical plane, or are you just saying the other densities overlap there? Couldnt tell if your drawings were more or less abstract or if they are actually representations of a spiral galaxy. Anyways, interesting topic, hope you hear more about it.

The drawings represent the golden ratio which is the shape of galaxies, hurricanes, sea shell, etc. At the galactic center is the source of energy for this galaxy. Every star, planet, animal, human, seems to get it's energy from here. 

I'm going to spend a little more time exploring the Astral Plane due to the fact that I keep getting my butt kicked when I explore the higher dimensional planes. I Just got caught in a tractor beam from a UFO while travelling out of body yesterday and it took everything I had to break free. As I continue to explore the 4th density, the grays continue to follow me. I have lost count of how many I have killed and injured thus far and it's no small number.

It may seem like fun to go out and explore these higher dimensions but then you have ships or other "things" trying to capture you and suck you dry, it makes you nuts and takes any 'enjoyment' or benefit you might derive from the journey or experience. I was unprepared for what's out there and I can tell you with 100% certainty that every single person on this forum is unprepared for what's out there as well. Bottom line, stay in the astral plane where your safe. There are not too many others on this world of 6 billion that explore the higher planes and once you go out you become a target for mischief and worse, your light is like a beacon to the moths.

[Fresco]

It's different from the astral plane because there are worlds with 'people' on them. While the astral plane seems to be inside your mind or somehow connected with your mind

So then how do you get from the astral planes into the 4th and 5th densities??

[Myxo]

In my opinion I think is not diferences between mental-astral-etc., the diference is the tune frequency you get.

[Stookie]

It may seem like fun to go out and explore these higher dimensions but then you have ships or other "things" trying to capture you and suck you dry, it makes you nuts and takes any 'enjoyment' or benefit you might derive from the journey or experience. I was unprepared for what's out there and I can tell you with 100% certainty that every single person on this forum is unprepared for what's out there as well. Bottom line, stay in the astral plane where your safe. There are not too many others on this world of 6 billion that explore the higher planes and once you go out you become a target for mischief and worse, your light is like a beacon to the moths.

I've never had any such problems in "higher dimensions". In fact, that sounds like lower astral dimensions. I've also never heard anyone say "stay in the astral plane where you're safe". Advanced projectors mostly say to work your way past the astral to get away from all the noise and lower astral beings and into a higher reality.

I would guess it's Kurt's methods and machines that gives him his unique point of view, but it doesn't seem to reflect the majority of projectors.