Vibrations and... pain

[Zagadka]

Hello there,
Last week, when I started to feel the inner vibrations and tried to take my off my physical vessel, I couldn't do it and as I was forcing to achieve dissociation, I started to feel a very sharp pain around my right scapula. It was really painful and it felt like that region of my body was swollen. I was afraid because it felt really real. I physically woke up and I was relieved my scapula wasn't swollen. A few months ago I had a similar problem, but this time I felt chest pain. It's a different story, but on another occasion, I took me off my body but then I was pushed back my two beings. I couldn't see them because I was blind and it was actually painful when I struggled with them. I was also bitten by a mouse that was by my bed once. Well I deserved it thought because I tried to crush it with my foot! It's not pain like we know it... it's more like a sort of energetic pain. Anyway, have you ever felt pain during the stage of vibrations? What could be causing it and how could I get pass this problem? It doesn't discourage me, but it is really painfull! Since I am making a thread about the vibrations, I would like to share something else. Once I was lying on my back (a position I do not like to fall asleep) and I started to get vibes... but only in my feet! Did it ever happened to anyone else?

[Stookie_]

For me vibrations start around the heart/chest, but it quickly goes full-body. I've never had them isolated to one spot, nor have I ever experienced any kind of pain with them. Maybe an uncomfortable non-physical pressure, but not pain.

Also, any uncomfortable feelings I would get went away after doing simple energy work... it was like distributing the pressure evenly around my body so everything was balanced.

[Bedeekin]

Yeah.. no pain... more like a 'I can't stand this intense tickly feeling' type sensation. It reminds me of that area on the tummy that when tickled feels like it's retracting or on a nerve... also a pressure. Never painful.

[Zagadka]

Hum well... let's see if anyone else experienced something similar to me? I dunno why but I tend to think it's drugs related. I astral project when I am totally or mostly drugs free... but when I felt this pain on my back last week, I still had opiates in my body and the withdrawals only hit me in the face the next morning. Which mean I was stable enough to project and to sleep, but still my body was intoxicated. Also, my higher self or guide been telling me to stop smoking tobacco if I want to go further into astral projection. I just quit today... I will see how it goes from there. Seriously it was painful enough that it would discourage a lot of people to attempt AP! If anyone else had similar experience, please share!

[Bedeekin]

Well.. maybe that's personal to you... that not smoking tobacco will help you more... but Robert Monroe smoked.. and we all know what he achieved. I mean.. smoking is bad yes.

[Zagadka]

Well the thing is I hate smoking! It taste terrible, there is no effect, it is just plain retarded. I started to smoke while I was doing opiates... which is pretty cool because the smoke is tasteless and it enhance the high of painkillers! Then it just became a stupid habit to fool boredom. Back in Robert Monroe time, smoking was quite popular and pretty much everyone was smoking... he may have achieved awesome things in the astral world, but that doesn't mean everything he was doing was smart. Sure it may have nothing to do with the ability to AP, but for my own well being, it would make a huge difference! I actually stopped and haven't smoked today and I am ready to go to bed. I feel pretty good about myself!...So anyway, if anybody experienced pain while attempting dissociation... please share. I can't believe it's only happening to me!