Visiting the sun while having an obe

[Emine]

Hello everyone,
In one of my obe experience after rolling out from my body i opened the window and found my garden(almost a perfect clone of it),i looked into the sky the sun was very bright so i decided to sneak a peak at it,at first it looked very normal but when i got too close to it it changed completely , it looked more like mars than the sun, and i saw weird things there like a big ancient city and other weird buildings, anyone experienced something like that before and sorry for my poor english

[Xanth]

What that sounds like to me was that your creative powers started to kick in as you approached the sun.
For some reason, you expected there to be 'something' there... so your mind created something for you to see.

Now... I'm sure other people here are going to have other wide-ranging answers for you... so I'll just let them have the floor. 

[Emine]

What that sounds like to me was that your creative powers started to kick in as you approached the sun.
For some reason, you expected there to be 'something' there... so your mind created something for you to see.

Now... I'm sure other people here are going to have other wide-ranging answers for you... so I'll just let them have the floor. 

Thank you for your answer, thats what i thought at first but what i expected was to see lava or something like that not a planet close to mars

[Astral316]

To bring to light the alternative explanation... you may have projected to an etheral plane close to the physical where our sun is habitable and able to support civilization. Sounds like this is the case considering you were expecting one thing (lava) and got another (ancient city.) I wouldn't judge the validity of any experience based on whether it corresponds to how things should be in the physical. If you're curious do some detective work and pursue the truth for yourself.

[Xanth]

To bring to light the alternative explanation... you may have projected to an etheral plane close to the physical where our sun is habitable and able to support civilization.

"The" alternative explanation?  You make it sound like it's fact. 
I just wanna point out that, as with my 'opinion'... the quoted is also an opinion.

I find it funny that some people venture out into the universe and find it barren and devoid of life... especially our little solar system... and then other people venture out and find it teeming with life.  It's events like that which force me to believe that "belief" has a lot to do with it.

It actually goes a little deeper than "what you expect to see"... it goes as deep (and possibly deeper) as your subconscious mind.  That which you don't have conscious access to generally.

I'll postulate a theory based upon that... sometime in the past Emine was interested in ancient civilizations... this interest eventually took them, in one way or another, to read up about Mars and the possibility of life and even a grand ancient civilization existing there at one time (it didn't even have to be consciously read and memory retained, it could have been something read in a passing article).  Once the judgment call was made that what was being viewed "looked more like mars than the sun"... well, the subconscious mind took that and ran with it.

Everything we experience, whether it be major or minor can (and probably will) impact our non-physical adventures.  What would have improved upon this situation would be NOT making that judgment call that it "looked more like mars than the sun", and just accepting what you're viewing without commenting on it.  Cause as soon as that initial judgment is made... it skews your perception.

Anyway... just a theory. 

[ether]

i must admit that i have been to a sun in a plane not sure which plane though, their was i cant really remember as it was along time ago 5 suns i use to goto the one second to last being 4 right side being the last, i use to visit this several times a day over several days i could do it spontaneously as i use to do work in their, fileing i call it, long story, but i stopped because it was messing with my hart, developement so im told from above (spirit World (Guides)
but i do believe i have been to this sun that the earth circles once only, maybe 1 or 2 seconds time spent i tried many times after but it wasnt the same experience different scenery if you could call it that, they above like to play games like that, send you elsewhere

good luck

love all

[AlanRK]

What that sounds like to me was that your creative powers started to kick in as you approached the sun.
For some reason, you expected there to be 'something' there... so your mind created something for you to see.

Really? Is this your hypothesis on everything that happens in the astral? "It was just your imagination" is a very limiting viewpoint, and did you ever consider that your belief that beliefs are king in the astral is what holds you back yourself?

[Astral316]

"The" alternative explanation?  You make it sound like it's fact.  
I just wanna point out that, as with my 'opinion'... the quoted is also an opinion.

This is a matter of whether or not the ancient civilization the original poster witnessed was internally or externally generated. You offered up the "internally generated" explanation so I gave "the" alternative explanation because that's what it is, really. I didn't give "the right explanation" because I don't have all the answers and wouldn't pretend to.

I find it funny that some people venture out into the universe and find it barren and devoid of life... especially our little solar system... and then other people venture out and find it teeming with life.  It's events like that which force me to believe that "belief" has a lot to do with it.

It actually goes a little deeper than "what you expect to see"... it goes as deep (and possibly deeper) as your subconscious mind.  That which you don't have conscious access to generally.

Well what is the subconscious mind? "Subconscious" is a dry psychology term that doesn't take the spiritual into account. To me the subconscious is simply our individual connections to the collective unconscious, and it's accessed every time we have a thought, dream, or projection.

I'll postulate a theory based upon that... sometime in the past Emine was interested in ancient civilizations... this interest eventually took them, in one way or another, to read up about Mars and the possibility of life and even a grand ancient civilization existing there at one time (it didn't even have to be consciously read and memory retained, it could have been something read in a passing article).  Once the judgment call was made that what was being viewed "looked more like mars than the sun"... well, the subconscious mind took that and ran with it.

Assuming this was the case, I think by reading up on possible life on Mars Emine created a sort of "train track" leading him to the area of the collective unconscious that corresponds to the thoughtforms he received while taking in the information.

Everything we experience, whether it be major or minor can (and probably will) impact our non-physical adventures.  

I think by experiencing in the physical we create the aforementioned "train tracks" leading to different areas of the astral.

What would have improved upon this situation would be NOT making that judgment call that it "looked more like mars than the sun", and just accepting what you're viewing without commenting on it.  Cause as soon as that initial judgment is made... it skews your perception.

Emine could've made note of the Sun's resemblance to Mars post-projection.

[Xanth]

Well what is the subconscious mind? "Subconscious" is a dry psychology term that doesn't take the spiritual into account. To me the subconscious is simply our individual connections to the collective unconscious, and it's accessed every time we have a thought, dream, or projection.

Actually, I love that description of it! 
"the subconscious is simply our individual connections to the collective unconscious"

I call it the literal place that people call "the astral"... I also refer to it as the "imagination". 
To make a distinction regarding my belief of what "the astral" is... what people generally refer to as "the astral"... I call Focus 2 oC.
To make another distinction... Focus 3 oC I do not refer to as "the astral"... in mystical terms, I believe people refer to it as the "mental plane".
That's just a bit of how I understand things to be setup.

Assuming this was the case, I think by reading up on possible life on Mars Emine created a sort of "train track" leading him to the area of the collective unconscious that corresponds to the thoughtforms he received while taking in the information.

Yup, I can definitely see that. 
I can also see a possibility that what he (she?  My apologies Emine if we get your gender incorrect ) was actually shifted from the "sun" to "mars".  This would be the act of the subconscious moving you to the area that it thinks you should be.  Again, just another theory. 

Emine could've made note of the Sun's resemblance to Mars post-projection.

Could have, yes.  But the subconscious connection would have been made during the experience. 

It's food for thought none-the-less.  As we just plainly put it forth in another thread... nobody has all the answers.  hehe

[Genie]

I haven't read all the posts on this thread yet.  I'll probably do so later.  I believe there may be an infinite number of experiences one can have on or within the sun.  In other words, I don't think one could experience something on a planet/Sun and say that this is the only or one true way that the sun can be experienced.  Our imaginations may be limitless.

One time I found myself within the moon.  I saw something like a multiple level parking lot for spaceships.  They were flying in and out from an opening on the dark side of the moon.  This may be true in some sense (mine for now) and untrue for many others.

[WASD]

Someone on this forum (I think) linked this site a long time ago and i bookmarked it. It's written by an astral traveler (he seems to call it soul travel) that have visited many planets. Here is the link for the sun: http://www.soundcurrentrider.com/TheSun.html

I have not read the article about the sun but you may want to check the other pages on that site since as many of them contains claims that may be perceived as quite weird. Stuff like this: "Pluto is special in that it has no atmosphere but contains crystalline life forms of semi-high intelligence."

[NoY]

once i went to the sun and found a small boy called Apollo and there was a city at his feet with pyramids with black gems at the top. it was a cool experience

:NoY:

[Naykid]

I've never been to a planet, I guess because it never really peeked my interest.  But with you guys describing it, it sounds fantastic! I did see one giant red planet from what I call the training grounds.  I couldn't believe how huge it was.