When I was a kid I figured out how to go into a kind of meditative state where I felt like I was outside my body. The vividness of the experience was somewhere between a daydream and a regular dream and everything seemed to have a mind if it's own, with my interactions with it having unintended consequences. It wasn't the same as astral projection, I've experienced that since then and they are different. Was this a type of OBE or just the overactive imagination of a kid?
There's no such thing as an "overactive imagination". :)
I think you can work out the rest from there.
Thank you for the reply, although I'm not sure what you mean. Was it a kind of OBE? Was it not? Something else entirely?
Quote from: Dreamking on April 08, 2016, 23:55:31
Thank you for the reply, although I'm not sure what you mean. Was it a kind of OBE? Was it not? Something else entirely?
You could simply call it a "non local state of consciousness". That title/label or should I say what Eckhart Tolle calls "pointer" pretty well bundles all the terms, Dreaming/OBEs/Astral Projection, etc. together as one.
Thanks. I still do that every once in a while but I've never really known anyone else who could do it or any way to really explain it. Its a good way to relieve stress and it is usually interesting to explore and interact with the worlds I visit whether it is real or not.
Quote from: Dreamking on April 09, 2016, 00:27:02
Thanks. I still do that every once in a while but I've never really known anyone else who could do it or any way to really explain it. Its a good way to relieve stress and it is usually interesting to explore and interact with the worlds I visit whether it is real or not.
If you can experience it, it is "real". :wink:
Interesting. I have been doing it more recently considering I've been sick and I might have to continue and see what happens.
Quote from: Dreamking on April 08, 2016, 23:55:31
Thank you for the reply, although I'm not sure what you mean. Was it a kind of OBE? Was it not? Something else entirely?
The problem is, as what Lumaza pointed out... if you experience it, it IS real!
Well, that's not the problem... the problem is your beliefs surrounding the issue.
Life is a projection.
What would you say if I told you that this physical reality experience you're currently having RIGHT NOW is as much an 'experience' as any non-physical experience you have while sleeping at night? You'd probably say I'm crazy, right? At night you DREAM, and during the day you LIVE...
Well, that's just a belief you hold because of what society has taught you. Well, society is wrong.
So I asked around both online and also friends who know about things like this and everyone agrees it was a projection. So, cool.
Quote from: Dreamking on May 06, 2016, 05:40:32
So I asked around both online and also friends who know about things like this and everyone agrees it was a projection. So, cool.
We're essentially taught that this physical reality is the only thing that's "real"... and if you don't experience something "here" then it's simply not a real experience.
What I'm telling you is that everything you've ever been taught about what's "real " and "not real" is wrong. Everything is real. If you can experience it, IT IS REAL.
Just because someone else can't experience something you've experience doesn't make it less real.
Now, in terms of "what is a projection"? Anytime you are consciously experiencing a reality which you identify as not being this physical reality: you're projecting.
People want to over-complicate things, but it's actually REALLY simple. :)
Quote from: Dreamking on May 06, 2016, 05:40:32
So I asked around both online and also friends who know about things like this and everyone agrees it was a projection. So, cool.
It doesn't and shouldn't matter what anyone else thinks it is. The only one you need to prove it to is yourself. You do that by doing it again and then again and so on.