What about a blind person?

[dbmathis]

Hi all,

So I was thinking today about how disabled people may be at an advantage when it comes to projecting.  Another thought flowed in parallel to this one wondering why more crippled people and such don't take full advantage of this gift called Astral Projection.

There may be several reasons why "more" don't, the main one being that they most likely just don't know that it's possible or even exists. This to me is sad when I consider that a person in a wheel chair, paralyzed from the neck down, could have lived a fantastic life by simply slipping into the astral planes. The crippled could walk again or better.

Then you take someone like Stephen Hawking and I bet he projects every night. I would not doubt that all of the knowledge that he has came directly from the other side. This leads me to the point of this thread. Does a person with a disability such as blindness or complete paralysis have a natural amplification of other senses or abilities like astral projection?

Take a blind person for instance. It seems to me that they would be more aware of other things going on in their body in comparison to a person who has sight, who would possibly be too distracted to notice.

Just something to think about.

[blackcat]

I am not sure if astral projection is another 'sense.' I don't think it's really all that related to the senses that the body has. I think it's just another part of  other you that is not physical. I think projection success has a lot to do with how familiar you are with your own inner self and inner mind and how open your awake personality is to the concept and to new experiences.  And I would guess those issues are not directly related to how the eyes or other parts of the physical self are or are not functioning.  Also, from what I have seen, astral projection has no direct relationship to intelligence of the waking personality  (could be wrong but nothing jumps out at me..)
-Eva

My blog of unexplained journeys:
http://www.realmcrawler.blogspot.com 

[dbmathis]

I am simply saying that a total absence of movement, sight and hearing may amplify the urgency to be more than just body. I am not really calling the ability to project a six sense , but for someone who has no sight or hearing it might be better than a total void of anything except for touch and taste.

One of the keys to meditation or astral projection is to clear your mind of thoughts, whether these thoughts be stored in memory as auditory or vision, for someone with neither it seems it would be easier to control and clear thoughts. This would be an advantage I would think.

I will give you an example. When I project, right before I leave my body I notice colors moving around in the blackness behind my eyelids. This is always a trigger for me to get prepared to exit. I never noticed this before because it was so subtle. Now for a blind person would it be so subtle, I seem to think no, but then again I may be wrong, maybe they don't notice colors at all. Maybe there's not colors for people who are blind?

Another interesting point is that I firmly believe in the existence of "past lives" (you may not, so this may be pointless). Someone might respond to me with something like, "Blind people would not see colors because they have never experienced colors". Then I can't help but start thinking that who we are at the present is directly linked to who we have been in the past and who we will be in the future, existing outside of time and space. This would be our collective consciousness which is much more than just our physical life / soul in the present. This consciousness can literally contain billions of separate souls.

Ultimately these things will remain unknown until a blind and deaf person or someone with a similar disadvantage responds to my post here . I do think that astral projection could be a great thing for people with these disabilities.

As far as intelligence not being linked to astral projection, I have no idea.

Best Regards

David

[David Warner]

It has been reported during near death experiences of the blind that they are able to recognize shapes, see color and objects. Although, many of the cases I have studied and read about do find it difficult to express because of their physical condition.

If you take someone who is blind at birth then what they see is difficult to interpret. When a child goes blind at a younger age 3-5yrs they can remember better but will still struggle. Now, what is very interesting is that the blind NDE'rs report the same conditions, love, joy, completness, pure vivid color as being white.

This is where science needs to explore deeper - work with patients who are blind giving them the ability to project. Same with handicap people too..

We could get more accomplished than bickering who's right or wrong...

tvos

[dbmathis]

We could get more accomplished than bickering who's right or wrong...

Amen brother!

[iNNERvOYAGER]

I've wondered about blind people and inner sight, and recently have thought about Stephen Hawking and his potential for inner freedom.

An interesting part in Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce explains how one of his friends being blind, describes the ability to sense the astral environment with tactile feeling that even extended to the  horizon and in 360 degrees.

I think that part of the "NEW" exercises that use a mental tactile process to focus attention on energy flow in the body and energy centers or chakra comes from Bruce's work with his blind friend.

[dbmathis]

An interesting part in Astral Dynamics by Robert Bruce explains how one of his friends being blind, describes the ability to sense the astral environment with tactile feeling that even extended to the  horizon and in 360 degrees.

I think I might read Astral Dynamics to get a different perspective astral projection. I have been reading Robert Monroe's books in reverse. I started off by reading "Ultimate Journey" and then I read "Adventures Beyond the Body" by William Buhlman to pick up some good techniques. I then read "Far Journeys" by Robert Monroe.

I had planned on reading Monroe's first book next because I really like Monroe's writing style however after seeing Robert Bruce being mentioned here so many times, I may read it next. It's always interesting to see how differently people view things, but at the same time enjoying the challenge of pulling out the similarities.

What are some of the highlights of Astral Dynamics in reference to people at a disadvantage?

[iNNERvOYAGER]

What are some of the highlights of Astral Dynamics in reference to people at a disadvantage?

I'll have to review it again, I kind of did a speed read, but the part that left an impression was the work with the blind friend and how it lead to Bruce developing the mental tactile exercise for energy body work.

Because the blind person could "feel" everything around him and according to the story, out to the horizon, you got the idea that it was an enhancement, much less a disadvantage.