Phasing attempt while wide awake

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ThaomasOfGrey

For several months I have been developing a strange ability which is growing stronger. I let go of my physical body and then apply focus in a certain way in my mind. I feel electrical sensations running from my head down by body, a numbness in my limbs and a feeling of lightness and dissociation in the mind. The symptoms do resemble the feelings I get when I make normal relaxation based phasing attempts. My guess is that whatever it is that I am doing forces my consciousness slightly away from the physical; however, I cannot maintain the state for long. Focusing too intently on this causes my muscles to twitch and shake intensely.

Does anyone has have any experience with this phenomenon?

Bluefirephoenix

You can phase in a way when your awake. It works better with your eyes shut though. The physical sense of sight tends to override the spiritual sense until you learn to control and turn it off and on. 

Lumaza

 Look up "Scrying". It's the same principle. It's achieved with your eyes wide open as well.

What you are experiencing though can happen by simply focusing on a TV show/movie, reading a good book or being deeply focused on a task. It happens during Daydreaming as well. It's just that this practice in general makes you more consciously aware of what is going on around and inside of you. You just likely didn't "notice" or pay attention to it before.
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

ThaomasOfGrey

Thanks for the replies guys. I will look into Scrying and I will keep trying to train this sensation.

Lumaza, It is interesting that you mention the focus on a particular subject. On three or four different occasions I have "spaced out" while awake for only a couple of seconds and got quite a shock because it felt like I was basically receding or falling into my own mind extremely quickly. At this point of time I didn't know about phasing or astral realms so I would rapidly return to physical focus with a scare. I suspect that if I was able to remain calm I could have had an experience.

I have been trying to capture this same feeling during my sleep based phasing attempts, however, somehow the proper focus is much easier to identify when upright compared to laying down. I can't explain why this is yet.

Lumaza

Quote from: ThaomasOfGrey on June 13, 2015, 21:35:38
I have been trying to capture this same feeling during my sleep based phasing attempts, however, somehow the proper focus is much easier to identify when upright compared to laying down. I can't explain why this is yet.
That is because all of your life you trained yourself that when you lie down in your bed, it is for sleep. When you stay "upright", as in a comfortable chair, etc., you maintain a level of "focus" easier, especially when you "train" yourself to.

I used to practice Phasing when I went to sleep at night. But noticed that it totally messed up my regular sleep schedule and sleep cycle in general. I can lie down in the afternoon though and Phase. But, not at bedtime anymore.

Have you tried accompanying Binaural Beats or Isochronic Tones? There are a ton of free ones on Youtube. They are very good for creating the right atmosphere for Phasing. I enjoy the ones that have a musical accompaniment more than the mono tones ones. 
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

ThaomasOfGrey

That is interesting. Your explanation makes sense. I currently attempt afternoon, night and morning phasing. I have been practicing for 6 months, but recently after reading posts here I have become excited and determined enough to keep trying until it happens.

I have tried most of the well known audio tracks including guided meditations. I have also trialed no beats and either way is comparable in outcome for me. I mainly use them to block out other distractions. I am currently trialing some hemi-sync tracks which Xanth suggested and they are my favourite so far.

My biggest obstacle right now is an automatic eye opening response that I get when I reach a hypnotic state. This is actually why I have become interested in awake projection; eyes open feels reasonably natural to me and at times I have ended up starring without blinking for 20 minutes.

Lumaza

Quote from: ThaomasOfGrey on June 14, 2015, 09:50:23
My biggest obstacle right now is an automatic eye opening response that I get when I reach a hypnotic state. This is actually why I have become interested in awake projection; eyes open feels reasonably natural to me and at times I have ended up starring without blinking for 20 minutes.
Easily rectified. Try a blindfold. I used to use the Mindfold, but it fell apart after about a year of use (which is very good). I then purchased the Escape Luxury Sleep Mask found here. http://www.dreamessentials.com/product-66/escape-luxury-travel-sleep-mask-w-carry-pouch-earplugs. I sleep with it on every night. The Mindfold was very good for AP attempts, but not so much for sleeping in general.

I had the same problem as you early on in my experiences. Just as I was about to be successful I would feel my eyelids opening or I would see a light and think my eyes were open. All this went away when I started to use a blindfold.

One by one you need to eliminate any contentions to your success. Those contentions are blocks that are self created. Kind of like personal obstacles. But the feeling is soooooooooo good once you jump the hurdles.
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

ThaomasOfGrey

Thanks for the advice, I have been trying a blindfold recently, but the one I have now has obvious design flaws compared to the two which you mentioned. I am going to try and source something more like the Mindfold; I live in New Zealand so the actual Mindfold is 5x more expensive than the price in the US (that is not due to exchange rate either).

What you describe sounds exactly like what I experience. I am happy to hear that it can be overcome. Great advice regarding the personal obstacles. I will keep this in mind.

Lumaza

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Quote from: ThaomasOfGrey on June 14, 2015, 19:42:27
What you describe sounds exactly like what I experience. I am happy to hear that it can be overcome. Great advice regarding the personal obstacles. I will keep this in mind.
Just remember, if there is something you experience with this practice in general, the chances are very good that someone else or many people period have experienced it as well.

You will also find that many solutions to any problems encountered can be found with a simple word "search" in the upper right hand corner search engine.
"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."  Nicolai Tesla

astralm

If you haven't looked into AD (Astral Dynamics) by Robert Bruce I would give it a read.  If I am understanding what you are talking about correctly his practical works deals almost exclusively with this type of energy work, which he calls NEW (New Energy Work).  I am not a huge fan of his explanations but his methods for working in this state are very sound.  I am pretty sure you can get just the section of the book that deals with this work for free or very cheap, maybe a dollar.  It deals a lot with building up sensations and several methods of moving focus outside your body, Just about all of NEW can be done from a wide awake state.  Good luck and keep us posted on your progress with this work.

ThaomasOfGrey

Quote from: astralm on June 15, 2015, 17:39:09
If you haven't looked into AD (Astral Dynamics) by Robert Bruce I would give it a read.  If I am understanding what you are talking about correctly his practical works deals almost exclusively with this type of energy work, which he calls NEW (New Energy Work).  I am not a huge fan of his explanations but his methods for working in this state are very sound.  I am pretty sure you can get just the section of the book that deals with this work for free or very cheap, maybe a dollar.  It deals a lot with building up sensations and several methods of moving focus outside your body, Just about all of NEW can be done from a wide awake state.  Good luck and keep us posted on your progress with this work.

This sounds fantastic. I will definitely look into Astral Dynamics. I have also ordered Explorations in Consciousness.

I actually made my first attempt at Scrying last night. I have a small crystal ball made of selenite and I decided to stare into it to see what would happen. After only a minute or two my field of vision completely greyed out and was replaced by typical closed-eye visuals. I wanted to be sure that my eyes hadn't just closed on their own so I carefully moved my hand into my field of view and my physical sight phased in slowly. I repeated this a few more times for extra validation. I have little doubt that it would be possible to phase with eyes open now as long as there is nothing moving in the field of vision.

I also implemented another tip I picked up from somewhere regarding focusing into the distance beyond any visuals you see rather than focusing at them and I found this to be extremely powerful. My visuals became more vivid and my entire field of view seemed to slowly fluctuate in color with dull greens and pinks, which is something I hadn't noticed before.

astralm

Quote from: ThaomasOfGrey on June 16, 2015, 20:26:49
This sounds fantastic. I will definitely look into Astral Dynamics. I have also ordered Explorations in Consciousness.

I actually just started to read Explorations last night.  One of the more unique obe books so far, as he is a clinical psychologist (with first hand obe experience) and comes at the topic from that angle.

Xanth

"Explorations in Consciousness" is probably one of THE best books I've ever read on the subject of Projection.
He presents a concept which really goes against the grain of what is expected.  Love it. :)

Szaxx

Quote from: Xanth on June 18, 2015, 02:57:14
"Explorations in Consciousness" is probably one of THE best books I've ever read on the subject of Projection.
He presents a concept which really goes against the grain of what is expected.  Love it. :)

I'll second the above. I have it on Kindle, at 20% through the book the info matches my experiences precisely.
It's a great read and I'd recommend it.

This distancing yourself from the physical whilst awake is something I too have done for many years. Try to ignore the visuals early on and think of an item you'd like info on.
Be as precise as you can in your question making it the only thought you have.
As an example, you can think of a person you know. It makes no difference if you've never met or if they're thousands of miles away then think of them feeling any pains they have.
If you are disassociated enough, your sight will have become garbled into a mush of shapes and colours in a meaningless way. You've basically explained this already.
To get the info answered you now need to place your intent into experiencing various proposed areas of pain. Toothache, dull overexertion muscle pains... You get the picture. As you go through each one you'll notice a 'feeling of something' if the pain exists. You'll know if you're right or wrong too, its fine tuning the whereabouts of the pain where you get a stronger return on this. Eventually you'll be able to tell this person about their pain even if it was a while since its maximum.
That's one thing you may wish to try.
The example is probably not the best to start with but you can ask the person if anything sensed is correct. The feedback will help you understand how it works.
I found this ability in 1969 and have used it many times.
Sometimes it's available and others not.

Worth a try.
Zener cards helped me early on. The hit rate was I'm the .illions to one compared to chance.
There's far more where the eye can't see.
Close your eyes and open your mind.

astralm

I certainly enjoyed reading his 'energy sensations' theory on them being distorted internal sounds such as heart beat and blood flow.